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Jman383 wrote:
But anyways, yes, Thank Goodness only sounds correct when Kendra sings it. No, she doesn't sing the High C, but she's the only one who belts it with as much fury and emotion as she does. Helene Yorke whines it. I hate it. Erin Mackey came close, but always got timid towards the end. But also, despite the notes, look at Kendra when she's singing the song. She's crying. Yes, it's over the top and she's playing to the people beyond the back row and out on the street, but she at least has the right IDEA. Like I said, she's not the best Glinda, but she's the only one to get that SONG.

Disagree with this. Every London Glinda has belted it (well Helen Dalli tried) - the Pilks belted it and Louise Dearman DEFINITELY belts it at the moment - she's one of the strongest Glindas vocally that Wicked has ever had, and she tears that song a new one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUVSEdXZeAk

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Sorry Jman you totaly lost me here... And yes, much off what actors has to do depends on what show theyre doing, even more so in mt since many productions are replicas off the original show. But its still highly qualified acting involved, together with aded skills off singing and even dancing.

And lets not discuss who I knows about here...

It is not highly qualified acting for the most part, at all. I'm sorry, if that makes me a pompous snob, then so be it. But the acting is not highly qualified, especially in this very show. The singing and dancing are, absolutely, but these days in MT, the acting comes last. Be it the actors or the composers/book writers. It's very sad.

And Felix, I apologize, I was honestly referring to the American Glindas when I was speaking about Kendra. I don't follow the West End production at ALL, but I will definitely take a listen :)

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Felix, I listened to your girl. She was GREAT. Her vibratto and belt are sick! I still prefer Kendra however, ONLY because of the acting. The best moment for Kendra is from when she says "Happy is what happens when your dreams come TRUEEEE" to where she hears them say "They couldn't be goodlier", "She couldn't be luckier". It is just heart breaking to watch her as Glinda struggle. She's struggling to smile.

And then she belts face and has this break in her belt almost, like a crackling noise, I can't explain it. I just love it. Mind you, I recognize that Louise has a better voice, believe me, vocally it's perfect. But there was absolutely no inner life for her during the entire song. She just played "I'll smile and be happy!" which works, but isn't as strong nor as interesting as actually taking in everything that's going on around her and struggling to convince them that she's happy like Kendra does. It's messy, raw and I love it. It's the only daring acting choice I've really seen anyone do in Wicked.

Here's the video of Kendra I'm referring to, btw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehj7wTDkaM8

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It is not highly qualified acting for the most part, at all. I'm sorry, if that makes me a pompous snob, then so be it. But the acting is not highly qualified, especially in this very show. The singing and dancing are, absolutely, but these days in MT, the acting comes last. Be it the actors or the composers/book writers. It's very sad.


You must have seen some truly lousy productions then. Even the performers say that it is always cast on acting.

As for Glindas, from youtube videos, the one I like the most in terms of acting and vocals is Lucy Scherer in the German production. You can see her muster her façade and struggle to hold it in place when talking to the crowd.


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Yes, but it's hard to understand when all you're going off of is the acting in the world of musical theatre. Again, I am doing my best not to sound like a snob, but the more and more I see straight theatre, especially on Broadway, whether it be Shakespeare, Chekhov or anything contemporary, I am just blown away by the gap between the acting abilities of those in musical theatre and those in legitimate theatre. That's not to say there aren't awful actors in "legit" theatre and truly amazing actors in MT, because of course there are, but, in the styles themselves, it's very jarring to see the requirements and demands for both. Only a few shows/composers really require good and complex acting in MT these days. It's very sad. And in a show like Wicked, there is one scene in which there is even remotely good acting demanded, and it is the one in question.

And to me, out of all the American Glindas, Kendra is the only one to really get it, both vocally and acting wise. Hilty's acting is stunning to watch, but the vocals leave much to be desired at the very end. If only she belted the ending. DESPITE that, her "Bridges you crossed..." is the best out of any Glinda I've ever seen/heard. Just STUNNING.

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Quique is most confuzzled. I find the assertion that today's musical theatre requires little to no "quality acting" absolutely preposterous, but at the same time, *think* I understand what you're trying to say, Jman. I just don't know how to phrase it.

Then again, I've just finished taking a 2-hour, online midterm and me brain is just about fried. *dies*

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Maybe I just have luck with seeing great performers, or dont have the have quality demands you have Jman. I can see youre points, but still much off youre points are more due to style, book and what directors want, Id say. And beside in straight theathre actors normaly dont have to have the skills of dancing and singing, they can focus on being an actor, and youll have to remember that youll have more time to evolve stories in straight acting, since singing normaly take longer time than acting (for the same amount off words), at least its what I got.

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But honestly, that's no excuse. In theatre, the acting should truly come first. Even in musical theatre. It's like Sondheim says, it's much better to have a great actor and potentially sub-par singer performing his songs than a fantastic singer who's a mediocre actor.

I'm simply stating that in MT these days, that is no longer the case. And it is quite sad.

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Maybe what you've seen. But the shows I've seen all had top level in acting, singing and dancing.


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Well I still have to see a show where the actors really fails to act. If I had to choice, however, it would really depend on what kind of parts theyre casted for. For the singing heavy parts, like Elphaba, I would go for great singers, for the dance heavy part I would go for great dancers and for the acting heavy parts I would go for great actors.

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It's not even so much that when I see Broadway musicals that I'm disappointed with the acting. It's more or less when I see Broadway plays and I see what actual acting is, I become disappointed of what MT has become. If the only thing you see is musicals, you won't be able to understand.

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I can understand what you mean, but when judging mt I still think its fair to keep in mind that speeking theathre actors are specialists in the field off acting, while mt actors has to be more generalists, and equally good in everything. Still they do act, in every sence off the meaning off the word.

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