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Were all his post-"Phantom" shows flops??? 
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Post Were all his post-"Phantom" shows flops???
In the lead up to "Love Never Dies", a lot of words have been written about ALW's patchy track record in the years following "Phantom".

But how patchy has it been exactly?

Some articles I've read say that he never had a hit show after "Phantom".

Other articles say that some of those shows did actually make a profit, even though they never became global phenomenons on the scale of "Phantom".

So, can anyone please tell me...

Were "Aspects Of Love", "Sunset Boulevard", "Whistle Down The Wind", "The Beautiful Game" and "The Woman In White" flops or not????

Some sources say these shows were successful and some say they were not... which is it? Did these shows wind up making more money than it cost to make them???


Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:28 am
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Probably the most 'successful' would be Sunset Boulevard, having snagged a handful of Tonys (albeit in a weak year) and running 977 performances on Broadway and 1529 in the West End. Due to the massive cost, it did not make money.

Aspects of Love had a decent run in London, with 1325 performances, but did less well across the pond, with only 377 performances on Broadway.

Whistle Down the Wind ran for 1044 performances in London, but did not make it to the Great White Way.

Woman in Whiteand The Beautiful Game came out with a bang, then went quickly with a wimper.

Considering his past success, none were worth writing home about. SB and AoL have some lovely music, and I think AoL could be reworked into a smaller production and do nicely, but the rest, well...meh.

I get the feeling ALW is looking less for a hit than creating whatever floats his boat. Whether or not it floats our boats is not his concern. He's got the money and the power to mount any stage production he wants. If the mood strikes, we might get 'Aspects of a Beautiful Whistling Superstar' next go-round.

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I think Sunset Bouelvard is worth writing home about. It's brilliant and captures the essence of that brilliant film perfectly.

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I meant success-wise. I agree- SB is a lovely show, with some great music. I think AoL is a better show, but neither would be the top of ALW's resume. (comparing them to his earlier works)

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Hmmm...I disagree...I think Sunset Boulevard is his best work if not his most popular.

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In terms of monetary success, Phantom is the last ALW musical to actually recoup its investment.

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Indeed, and that's because in Aspects of Love, Sunset Boulevard and Whistle Down the Wind, far too much money was spent, on the assumption that they would have success comparable to Phantom's - when really that was a once-in-a-lifetime level of success.

ALW's trouble is that Phantom redefined what counts as a "success" for him. AoL, SB and WDTW are all good shows that were well marketed and had box-office appeal. They would have made money had they not been staged on an unnecessarily lavish scale.

Beautiful Game was much more pared-down, and is much better than its detractors would have you believe. It was, however, more of a play with songs than a traditional ALW musical.

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[quote="jackrussell"]ALW's trouble is that Phantom redefined what counts as a "success" for him. AoL, SB and WDTW are all good shows that were well marketed and had box-office appeal. They would have made money had they not been staged on an unnecessarily lavish scale.

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That's a good point. Can you imagine being creator of the top two longest-running Broadway shows? After those long-distance runners, the short racers look less impressive.

I agree-a lower budget would have improved the newer shows' chances.

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LaGataNegra wrote:
I meant success-wise. I agree- SB is a lovely show, with some great music. I think AoL is a better show, but neither would be the top of ALW's resume. (comparing them to his earlier works)


artistically both Aspects and Sunset are miles ahead of his other post-tim rice work.

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Jekkienumber24601 wrote:
I think Sunset Bouelvard is worth writing home about. It's brilliant and captures the essence of that brilliant film perfectly.


How?

In my opinion it does exactly the opposite - it turns an exquisite and profound film about an important sociological phenomenon into a self centered, superficial vehicle for a diva with pipes.

Not exactly the same as capturing any essence in my book.

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Has Sunset Boulevard ever been revived?

ALW has had brilliant success as producer and I do recall hearing an interview where he called himself a "producer first" or something to that effect?

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Yes it has, and the revival was superb! It was a minimalistic production at the Comedy Theatre in London, and it was amazing! I know that the show is not very good, but it is the best musical production I have ever seen! Everything from the choreography to the props where amazing and everything was in favor for the show!


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