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Author:  Hammond [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Beast's voice -- new thread!

"Thank you SOOOOOO much for the tip!
It didn't take a lot of convincing for the director to let me run with this. The cast was convinced that it was the way to go, and only once slipped with a yell, during dress rehersal.
Thanks again for you help in making this the most successful show we've ever done!"
--Forum member Voltorb

Here's how to get the Beast's deep, commanding voice quite easily. You're just going to lower Beast's voice by three half-steps (three semitones).

You need a digital delay with a good quality pitch shifter. Good results from one of these takes a lot of computer processing, and good delays are expensive. But you can rent one and you'll get a good price when you explain that it's a not-for-profit school show. Addition: Tell your sound designer that the pitch shifter must have something called low (or zero!) latency. A powerful pitch shifter will have enough computing muscles to take care of this.

There are two rules to follow:

Mute Beast's mic when he isn't speaking so that voices near him won't be picked up and processed. Have one person dedicated to doing this on the board. It's easy to get it right every time with a bit of practice. And Beast doesn't have nearly the number of lines as Belle, Cogsworth, Lumiere, or Gaston :)

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The second iron rule is that Beast must never yell or speak loudly. If he does, his natural, "real" voice will be heard by the audience along with the effect through the speakers, and you don't want that.

This is very good, because it makes Beast inject all that venom into his voice quietly.

A quiet voice spoken with suppressed rage is far more chilling than a yelling loud voice. Even if you don't have the lowering effect, if Beast keeps his voice quietly menacing, he'll be more than twice as effective -- and he'll save his voice.

Get a digital delay with a pitch shifter by hook or crook and do this. It is my considered opinion that fully 50% of the magic of this show depends on Beast sounding as he does in the Disney movie.

Using this effect is like giving a Christmas present to the guy playing Beast -- when he hears that deep commanding voice come thru the speakers, he 'becomes' the Beast even more than he did before. It adds hugely to the suspension of disbelief. Every professional production uses this technique.

Author:  Apples2for10 [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Beast's voice -- new thread!

It's not that PMing is a hassle, it's that this whole thing that you're telling us about is an awful lot of trouble and stress for something so unnecessary. That's why nobody's been commenting on it, so how dare you pass judgement on us. And where do you get off saying that this will make the show better? The characters and songs and costumes are all going to be the same from the original film and I would think that that would be enough for most people seeing the show. All you need to do is cast an actor to play the Beast that already has a naturally raspy voice. Boom. Done.

Author:  Voltorb [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Beast's voice -- new thread!

OK, so I'm going to stir this pot a little.

I for one was thankful for the suggestion. I provide sound and special effects support for a local high school. I am not a professional sound engineer, nor do I play one on TV.

I used a Yamaha LS9 console for this show, and used the built in processor to generate the effect. The director cast the part based on the desire and attitude, not on his voice which was FAR from what you would expect from this character. I asked for suggestions, and got this one. I had no problem selling it because it truly worked. Comments from the audience were all pluses, and the cast member and I agreed that we would not reveal our secret and sell it as voice training. Just as a magician doesn't reveal his secrets.

I came to this forum for help, received it, and continue to use this as a resource.

Author:  Hammond [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Beast's voice -- new thread!

Kamilla, If you have any technical or use questions, don't hesitate to contact me! Thanks!

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