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Author:  Regressiamente [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:15 pm ]
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I mean; am I the only one who loves both the play (Hearn is incredible, of course), and the movie? I think it works great as a film! I can see how naturally it would come to mind to compare the movie to the play and base your judgement off of that. But come on, for a movie you don't exactly need opera singers-- it's not as if the actors need to project their voices to the back of some stage. Plus, acting for film is a completely different concept than acting for stage. If the actors had been more akin to the stage actors, it would have flopped as a movie. Nonetheless, I don't see why the movie is so largely hated. I can see not liking Helena as much as Lansbury, but she wasn't horrible! Her voice was fine for Lovett; she had a nice tone, a good accent, a bit breathy and not too strong, yes. But I think her vocal tone reflected the character she was portraying. She succeeded at presenting a new kind of Lovett-- one that became wicked with her love for Todd. She also seemed kind of jaded and nonchalant yet merry and fancy-free, an interesting combination, and she acted this out very well. As for Depp, his voice surprised me for what I was expecting. I think his voice was quite powerful, very unique and refreshing. My favorite performance of his was "Epiphany". I'm not a huge fan of Depp in general, but I think he suited the role. In the end, I really got the idea that he had full-circle consumed himself.

Overall, why judge the actors and the whole film because it is different from the play? It is a totally different thing from the play, and the characters were a bit different, yes. But wouldn't you be booing if Helena tried some Lansbury rip-off, or Depp tried to go all Hearn on us?

Author:  Pannic [ Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:45 pm ]
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I don't think anyone here disliked the movie...

Author:  musical_maven [ Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:40 am ]
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I was a Sweeney-virgin when I saw the movie. I liked Depp's preformance and was soon obsessed with the whole concept of Sweeney Todd. Which in turn, introduced me to the Lansbury/Hearn tape (Which I loved!), and got me interested in the revival! I bought tickets a few weeks ago, so I'll be seeing it when it comes to my town!

Author:  pish123c [ Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:50 am ]
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This topic has been done to death. A quick search on this forum would give you all the feedback you could ever want.

Author:  Inspector_Javert [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:49 am ]
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I found the movie good, although it was too much for me. Too much pointless killing and no sympathetic character, no sense of humor. I'd put more irony in it. The story is too bizarre for being a serious tragedy, it would be better as a (very) black comedy.

The actors were very good. I've never seen it on-stage, in our country they don't play it... :x Maybe they will now...

I especially liked Helena. She almost stole the show!
Johnny is always Johnny :lol: , I just love him playing silly roles. And Alan... my God, his voice is wonderful!
The little boy was great, too, the lovers were boring, like almost all lovers, Beggar Woman/Lucy was fine.

Bad Johnny... killed my precious Professor! :twisted: It was really shocking, although I knew it must happen...

Oh, and don't forget Wormtail (hehe), and Borat, both made solid characters.


The story was like Edgar Allan Poe wrote it.

Author:  Mistress [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:10 am ]
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Inspector_Javert wrote:
I found the movie good, although it was too much for me. Too much pointless killing and no sympathetic character, no sense of humor. I'd put more irony in it. The story is too bizarre for being a serious tragedy, it would be better as a (very) black comedy.


It IS a black comedy/melodrama...it's much funnier onstage because the atmosphere is different. There's a lot more laughing in Little Priest for one...and all of the funnniest lyrics from that song were cut from the movie too. And the other funny song (after the Little Priest and The Contest), Kiss Me, was also cut to focus the film on Sweeney. The cutting of Kiss Me is also probably why Johanna and Anthony were a little boring.

On the other hand, they also cut the creepiest song, Mea Culpa (also probably to fucis the film on Depp's character).

Anyway, I don't know of they have it where you live, but try and get the George Hearn/Angela Lansbury film (it's basically a filmed stage performance)...much better than the Depp film (which I still liked).

Author:  Little_Nell [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:58 pm ]
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I love the film but tend to view it as a completely different piece of work to the stage show. I think it's possible to appreciate both but in very different ways.

On the subject of the Lansbury/Hearn version - it's finally being brought out on DVD in the UK next month. I'll be so glad not to have to watch it in pieces on YouTube. I've got my copy pre-ordered along with the film so I'm really looking forward to having a bit of a Sweeney fest very soon!

Author:  actor [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:45 am ]
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Little_Nell wrote:
On the subject of the Lansbury/Hearn version - it's finally being brought out on DVD in the UK next month. I'll be so glad not to have to watch it in pieces on YouTube. I've got my copy pre-ordered along with the film so I'm really looking forward to having a bit of a Sweeney fest very soon!


WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You just made my week! :D


Flaws with the movie: The cutting of Mea Culpa, The cutting of the Ballads, A Little Priest, Jamie Cambell Bower (Anthony), Jayne Wisener (Johanna) and Toby (Edward Sanders).

Author:  Salome [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:11 am ]
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I didnt mind the ballads being cut it worked for the film but Mea Culpa would have been brilliant for the film.

Author:  actor [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:17 am ]
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I dunno. I think they could've maybe had the voices off-screen whilst action was happening on-screen. Of course the ensemble singing it directly to the camera wouldn't have worked but don't cut it completely! Plus, the final ballad is one of my favourite moments in the show. I thought the movie ended quite abruptly and left something to be desired.

Also, the cutting of the ensemble in Pirelli's Miracle Elixir and God, That's Good!

Author:  Salome [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:44 am ]
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odd screen voices wouldnt make much sense at all. I did think Burton's original idea for the ballds was pretty good but i see why he cut them.

Author:  Mistress [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:39 am ]
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Does no one care that Kiss Me was cut? Actually It's really hard for me to picture that song in Burton's vision, o to speak...but still it would have been tons of fun to watch (If Weisner and Bower could sing it), much like Mea Culpa, although I think watching Alan Rickman singing that would give me nightmares.

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