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It is a pity ALW didn't use the melody of "Belle The Sleeping Car" when he rewrote some of the show in 90s. I think the melody is gorgeous. Well, let's hope he'll do the same with it as he did with "The Ballad of Billy McCaw" which was cut from CATS - he re-used the melody as "Next time you fall in love" which, as we know, was added in STARLIGHT EXPRESS.

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Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:16 pm
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JamieHT wrote:
What were the 5 new songs?

He'll Whistle At Me
Crazy
Make Up My Heart
The Rap
Next Time You Fall In Love

and the songs they got rid of?

He Whistled At Me
There's Me
Belle The Sleeping Car
The Rap
C.B.
No Comeback
Only He
Only You

is that right?!
This is not quite correct. While it is true that "Make Up My Heart" was not in the show originaly. It was added earlier than the others. When I saw the show (about 6 months to a year before "The New Starlight Express") both "Make Up My Heart", and "Belle" were perfomed.


Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:31 am
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Where does Engine of Love come into it all? Wasn't it written before the show existed?


Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:56 am
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"Make Up My Heart" was written for the Broadway re-write in 1987, it came to London 1988 or so (They didn't put dates in the programmes, so tho I have one from the week of the song changes, it doesn't say when it was!)

"Engine of Love" was written in the 1970s, and is the kernel the entire show grew from! Although the song didn't appear in the OLC, it was re-written as "He Whistled At Me". Then when they went to Broadway, "Engine of Love" was put in in the vague hope someone might remember its brief charting 10 years ago.... and with Engine of Love in the show, He Whistled was cut - hence Make Up My Heart going in.

Although "Make Up My Heart" did go in 4 years before the revamp, it was inaccurately advertised as being new to the show in 1992, part of the "5 new songs!"

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Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:45 pm
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I think they need to do the show as a combination of the new and old. Keep C.B., Belle, No Comeback, There's Me, and He Whistled at Me. But add Crazy, Make Up My Heart and I can't decide between Only He and Next Time You Fall in Love. They're both so good and you can't have both.


Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:21 pm
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I think it would be a huge benefit to the show just to put 'No Comeback' back in, and return One Rock 'n' Roll to a 2-person song. With the rest of the cast gawping.

EDIT: And it's hard to have Only He, as they're discovering in Germany - Pearl's just run half the Downhill Final, and she's expected to belt out that power ballad? It's a great song, but even having her exit the race halfway isn't enough to get her puff back.

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Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:41 am
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I have always said the best version of StEx is, has and always will be the songlist from the Broadway and 1990 tour. Keep the songlist and the orchestrations from that era.

Cite the 1989 CD that came out, too. Incredible album.

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Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:07 am
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Interesting you pick productions that were notably less successful and with convoluted and unnecessary plot changes - "The Silver Dollar"? WTF? "Lotta Locomotion" ran without Pearl? Why? There was a lot of good material in there, "Engine of Love" is one of my absolute favourites. But another of my favourites is the Overture, the most beautiful, stirring, emotional music with such promises! So much more exciting than the Entry of the Nationals.

And do you mean the German 1989 recording? Or the 1987 Concept album? :P

My ideal version of the show is the London production from the same era - 5 races so the plot makes sense, Belle and CB, but "Only You", "Engine of Love" etc.

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Is there a recording of the Australian tour? There are four youtube videos with the audio, and it seems like official recording quality.


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Yes, but I think it's out of print. It shows up on eBay every now and then.

I'm - very slowly - working on a dream version of the show in a little notebook to my right. I'm only up to Lotta Locomotion as far as writing all the lyrics out goes, but the running order would be -

Pre-show toy trains, signals etc
Control's introduction
Starlight lullaby(when the night is darkest version)
Overture(with skate-round)
Rolling Stock
Engine of Love
Taunting Rusty
This is Gonna Be the Day(sort of Call Me Rusty, but those lyrics are never said)
A Lotta Locomotion
Freight
Entry of the National Engines
AC/DC
Pumping Iron
Coda of Freight
Hitching and Switching
Crazy(would cut if time doesn't allow)
Pearl, you've been honoured
He Whistled at me(because I'm a sadist)
Heat 1(Greaseball, Bobo, Hashamoto, Espresso)
That was Unfair
There's Me
Poppa's Blues
Belle, the Sleeping Car
Only Believe
Heat 2(Electra, Poppa, Turnov, Ruhrgold - Poppa racing with Belle)
Laughing Stock
Starlight Express.

Act 2

The Rap
Pearl Twirl
UNCOUPLED
Rolling Stock: reprise
Dinah, you're honoured
Wide Smile, High Style
Uphill Final(Greaseball, Electra, Bobo, Rusty)
Sadder but no wiser
You're no engine
Right Place, Right Time
Starlight Sequence
Dinah's Disco
Earth, Water, Air, Fire(with Rusty in the Broadway-inspired Starlight Express costume)
Downhill Final(Greaseball, Electra, Rusty)
No Comeback
One Rock 'n' Roll too Many
Lap of Honour
Dinah Splat
Light at the End of the Tunnel
Band Bows
Megamix
Skateround
playout.


Obviously that's all the scenes and dialogue as well.

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Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:23 pm
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Some of those just seem to be the same song listed several times.


Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:57 pm
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I'm talking about the "concept" album.

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