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Is Pippn appropriate for a high school production?
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Ever notice how schools want to draw crowds with a musical like "Pippin" or "A Chorus Line" or "Cabaret" but tone them down so much that they're destroyed. I think if your School Board/Superintendent/Principal/Musical Director can't do the show as written, then they shold move on to "You're A Good Man, Charlie Brown" or some other "kiddie" show. By the way, parents of elementary students, there is a thing called a babysitter. Use one instead of bringng your noisy brats to a show. And turn off your cell phone. And leave your damn camcorder and camera at home. It may be your kid, but I bought a ticket to see them in the show. Broadway performers have parents too, but they don't act like entitled idiots.

School boards/Superintendents/Principals, etc. should realize that kids have internet, cable, and DVD-hardcore porn readily available to them. To deny this is to lie to yourself. "With You", "Dance 10, Looks 3" and Sally Bowles abortion never damaged anyone but instead make people think. I think what "conservatives" find especialy troubling is young people thinking for themselves.


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Geauga...I don't know how to pronounce that, but can you be on my wall with lind and say things that I like for all eternity?
That is EXACTLY why I will never see a school production of Cabaret again. I saw one once...oy.
Things cut:
Two Ladies
Sally having an abortion at all
"Und now, presenting, the cabaret girls"
The verse about Elsie from the song Cabaret
Don't Tell Mama
I Don't Care Much
Anything to "violent" or "sexual".

Needless to say, that sucked. Back on topic, Pippin doesn't have a lot that should be cut if it's gonna be school production. The language, the Pippin Catherine "scene", and that's about it. Nothing else is "bad" enough. That school probably would cut half the show, though.

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Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:49 am
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I am considering doing Cabaret at the high school where I teach theatre. I plan to do the show as written (the original version, not the revival) with only one exception: I will cut "Two Ladies." I don't think the impact of the show will be affected by this ommision.


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Post Re: Censor the profits
GeaugaDog wrote:

School boards/Superintendents/Principals, etc. should realize that kids have internet, cable, and DVD-hardcore porn readily available to them. To deny this is to lie to yourself. "With You", "Dance 10, Looks 3" and Sally Bowles abortion never damaged anyone but instead make people think. I think what "conservatives" find especialy troubling is young people thinking for themselves.


It's different when it's handed to the students on a platter, though. "School boards/superintendents/principals probably don't want to be responsible for introducing or promoting that kind of thing. It's not always just a matter of whether or not it's apropriate for the kids.

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Take a risk man. We thrive on risks. If you can defend your actions with reasonable, thought out responses, you can do anything.


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lind wrote:
If you can defend your actions with reasonable, thought out responses, you can do anything.


And sometimes, you don't even need any of those. (Casts accusatory look toward Washington D.C.)

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right on Fontinau


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What I find intriguing is the fact that a high school english class will read anything from Catcher in the Rye to The Color Purple to Sun Also Rises which are all rife with profanity, debauchery, and adult themes. Hell, Shakespeare is downright filthy to those who can decipher it. Why is it that we allow students to study and analyze that which we will not allow them to portray. Is it because the artform of the musical isn't as understood or respected by the public education system, and therefore is not as trusted as a valid form of learning/expression? I don't know. Because of the common misnomer that musicals are trivial, light fare, and their sole existence being in mostly post-1940 America, not to mention the high school tradition of exiling any and all mention of musical theater to Extra-Curricular Land, it is easy to view the same adult themes in musicals as lacking in the artistic merit attributed to some of the novels students read.

Another thing that I think has been grossly overlooked is the fact that it is ILLEGAL to alter these shows so drastically. I'm the last person to be a stickler for the law, but there exists a fine line between directorial vision and downright copyright violation. If a high school insists on doing Cabaret or Into the Woods (good lord) or Merrily We Roll Along (god help me, it's been done), go for it. Whether they are trying to get bigger box office sales or attempting to expand the students' cultural repertoire (which I am ALL for), do it, just don't bastardize the artistic integrity of the work. Perform the show that is written, and if what is written is not acceptable, then find something else to perform. This raises even more issues of the fact that there are fewer and fewer family-friendly and budget-friendly musicals being produced nowadays. How many times can a high school mount The Music Man or Fiddler on the Roof before people start getting bored. As the contemporary Broadway theater audience develops a taste for edgier, flashier material, the young amateur production groups of America, be they in high schools or community theaters, are languishing for new material. It seems like only a matter of time until some high school, in a desperate attempt for something new and exciting, tries mounting The Wild Party and in turn ends up with a 25 minute show.


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All I have to say is my all-girls catholic school did 'Pippin' my senior year. We had 2 female Leading Players to compensate for the male lead and as far as "censorship" if you will went, we did cut the scene where Otto (the duck) dies, and I'm not sure if that was because of content, length, or a combination of the two. Other that that we changed the line in "Magic to Do" that goes "Sex presented pastorally" to "Desire..." (which has two syllables, so that was interesting). The "With You" dance was not as sexual as we all know it can be, and I, being Fastrada as you probably guessed, couldn't play up the idea of an incestral relationship with Lewis, but all in all I think we maintained the integrity of the show. Basically, I'm trying to make the point, that a few edits may have to be made as to not offend parents and administrators, but the show will not necessarily butchered if changes are subtle and kept to a minimum. A lot of things in there go over kids' heads anyway (even the kids on stage...I doubt most of the cast ever thought about what they were saying in "Glory").

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Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:49 pm
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My highschool did do Pippin and it wored very well. we did have to change some language, but we were able to keep the orgy scene. but it was a bit more PG, but not too much. it was fun. i really miss that play

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Post Geez, people can be wierd
Well my highschool is doing pippin this year and it's going fantastically, we aren't cutting anything out and i dont think our pincipal would even care. Our musical directors and our directors are quite excited about the whole thing and if we cut anything out it would ruin it. I understand that some schools might want to cut things out but why even do a play with sex scenes in it if not to act them out? All our students are so happy to be doing it and are enjoying every minute, we swear everyday so why cant we do it in a play? And if parents or teachers think it's 'innapropriate' then they shouldn't come. It's there own fault if they do come and take offence i rekon. Peace out.


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I'm doing the show w/ highschoolers at a community theater. We're keeping most of everything expect we're toning down the Pippin/Catherine scene. I think it's appropriate because high school kids are dealing with a lot of the temptations that Pippin deals with. It's easy to relate to.


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