B.S. it isn't hard to detect anything, Alfie is one of the most facially expressive Valjeans. You people always say he isn't expressive because you want to come with a reason to like him less then Colm. I don't understand why no one can see the HUGE amounts of expression he uses
No need to call my opinion B.S. if you disagree with it. I didn't mean that Alfie doesn't use any expressions, they just seem to be limited to angry/frustrated and sad/prayerful. They worked well for the prologue, most of his interactions with Javert and with Bring Him Home. I just found that his expressions didn't work for the rest of the show. That's just my opinion though. Feel free to disagree with it.
Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:19 pm
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
costerluver wrote:
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B.S. it isn't hard to detect anything, Alfie is one of the most facially expressive Valjeans. You people always say he isn't expressive because you want to come with a reason to like him less then Colm. I don't understand why no one can see the HUGE amounts of expression he uses
No need to call my opinion B.S. if you disagree with it. I didn't mean that Alfie doesn't use any expressions, they just seem to be limited to angry/frustrated and sad/prayerful. They worked well for the prologue, most of his interactions with Javert and with Bring Him Home. I just found that his expressions didn't work for the rest of the show. That's just my opinion though. Feel free to disagree with it.
Yeah I'm sorry man, sometimes I forget that my tone doesn't come across in text I didn't me to insult you, or make you think that I was discounting your opinion. I don't agree with you but I certainly didn't mean to insult, although when I read what I said it did sound like that. Sorry again
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Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:26 pm
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
Don't worry about it. I appreciate the apology and I'm sure you didn't mean to come across as insulting.
Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:21 pm
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
I knew there was a reason why Dudu Fischer's Hebrew BHH always gave me shivers. Thanks to the OP for the background.
And I need to listen to more Craig Schulman. I only ever heard him on the TAC...and he didn't really strike my fancy. Must have been an off day...
Anyway, I have yet to see this one live as I live in Toronto and there hasn't been a local production since before I was born, I think. However, they ARE bringing the 25th anniversary show to the Royal Alex in the near future, and even though there's been a ton of talk about Ramin Karimloo playing Valjean again, I firmly place my money on Brent Carver. I'm willing to bet good money that Carver would make a grown man ball like a baby as Valjean. This is his rendition of Pilate in JCS (at 1:08):
30 seconds of pure awesome XD
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
God, Colm is one of the worst Valjeans I've seen.
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:35 pm
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
Colm Wilkinson will forever be my #1 Valjean (like many other fans, I'm sure!). That's not to say that I haven't heard other great Valjeans, though.
I thought Gary Morris from the CSR and 1st NT was actually pretty good for someone who is really a country singer. Although, that may mainly be because his interpretation of Valjean reminded me a lot of Colm's...hmmmm.
Alfie Boe did a wonderful job in the 25th Anniversary Concert, too. His voice is rather different from Colm Wilkinson's, but I think that's why I liked him. His voice has more of a dignified (for lack of a better term) sound to it that I thought brought an interesting depth to an already multi-faceted character.
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:39 pm
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
Was listening to tracks from my 1995 Broadway audience boot featuring Craig Schulman as Valjean, and am once again reminded just how mediocre these "reinventions" of today actually are, when he completely infused the role and the whole show, for that matter, with a freshness unlike any other attempted since, thanks to his beautifully nuanced performance and stellar, heartfelt acting. And that voice. He wasn't dubbed "chords or steel" for nothing!
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:19 am
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
Colm Wilkonson, Alfie Boe, and the one who did Valjean in the symphonic recording.
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Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:06 am
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
BwayJuvinile wrote:
God, Colm is one of the worst Valjeans I've seen.
What a minority opinion, care to explain?! He's the original and a very talented guy. Did you grow up listening to the travesty that is Gary Morris' performance on CSR or something??
Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:51 pm
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Re: Who's your Favourite Valjean?
I've only seen Dudu Fisher and Colm Wilkinson live so I really shouldn't make judgements but I find that Boe has the best voice (singing), while JOJ has the most emotion (his Confrontation for example). But everyone tries to portray Valjean. Alfie Boe plays Valjean. JOJ plays Valjean. Colm Wilkinson is Valjean.
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