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Why make Judas so difficult a role?
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Author:  MunkustrapQC [ Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm ]
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Vichysois wrote:
Glenn Carter did the falsetto G like Neely also...


I prefer Neeley's falsettos than Carter's. Carter's aren't powerful like Neeley's!

I saw him in Montreal a year ago and he still can hit it (not as well as before, but still!!) The guy's amazing!

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Author:  MunkustrapQC [ Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:09 pm ]
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bot?

Author:  Vichysois [ Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:51 pm ]
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MunkustrapQC wrote:

I prefer Neeley's falsettos than Carter's. Carter's aren't powerful like Neeley's!



Good call. He emoted the hell out of the lyrics, but his falsetto sounded less powerful and too starkly different from the rest of his tone.

I enjoy Steve Balsamo's performance...it's somewhere in between Neeley and Carter.

Author:  Yakko [ Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:29 pm ]
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Vichysois wrote:
MunkustrapQC wrote:

I prefer Neeley's falsettos than Carter's. Carter's aren't powerful like Neeley's!



Good call. He emoted the hell out of the lyrics, but his falsetto sounded less powerful and too starkly different from the rest of his tone.

I enjoy Steve Balsamo's performance...it's somewhere in between Neeley and Carter.




Steve Balsamo is to me THE greatest Jesus EVER!

Author:  Jekkienumber24601 [ Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:34 pm ]
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Steve's my favorite Jesus as zubin varla is my favorite judas. That recording is nearly perfect. If only they had a barry dennen like Pilate instead of an operatic baritone.

Author:  MunkustrapQC [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:14 am ]
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Vichysois wrote:
I enjoy Steve Balsamo's performance...it's somewhere in between Neeley and Carter.


I always thought the exact same thing. Balsamo's performance as Jesus is less powerful/rock than Neeley's, but way better than Carter's. I see Balsamo's Jesus as a Broadway-type character, less than a rock 'n' roll performance like Neeley's, Fenholt's or..hum... Sebastian Bach :?

Author:  operafantomet [ Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:25 pm ]
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Vichysois wrote:
Just something that I find curious. Why write music for a character that is extremely dangerous and taxing to perform? Ben Vereen, Carl Anderson, et al risked serious vocal injury playing Judas night after night. Why write a role that is so dangerous?

An obvious answer is the spectacle - the impressive feat of playing the role well, but that answer feels hollow.

An alternative question is this: Did ALW purposefully make the role a suicide mission, or did he just write things that sounded good?


ALW has always had a preference for writing extreme roles - extreme as in vocally exhausting. His lead roles are on stage almost all the time, and their range is huge. Judas, Evita, Christine...

Many of his songs are also a marathon of vocal effort, covering two or three octaves, having long and high notes, demanding different styles of singing. Gethsemane is one example the "Phantom of the Opera" title song another, and take a pick in "Evita"... This is often contrasted with Sondheim's work, where the rhythm and style is what's challenging (Sondheim is often accused of writing "unhummable" songs), and not necessarily the range and tempo.

This might be positive or negative, main thing is that the difficult roles are well written and very impressive in the hands of a singer who handles it.

If a singer breaks his/her neck (or rather, voice) when doing the role, I would say it's a miscast rather than a flaw in the role. Eventually, it's time to put in an alternate to ease the burden of the principal singer.

Author:  Profetikus [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:11 pm ]
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Another idea is that if he wrote the part with a particular singer in his head other that not having that range could find it silly hard to sing.

Besides I think both musicalgoers and actors/actress like songs that you cant sing at everydays caraoke shows buts a bit tougher and more challenging to get right. And ALW is known to often slide into the opera segments in songs (Like Old Deotoronomy in Cats.)

Author:  SomeoneLikeYou [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:33 pm ]
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Very well said, operafantomet.

Author:  jcstar [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:44 pm ]
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The role of Judas (and the other leads in JCS, as well as other ALW shows) often have very complex psychological profiles. There is not enough time in the day to explain them all.

I think that's what motivates his pieces. The idea for a character is created and discussed by the authors and they decide what works for that character.

Plus, playing a challenging character is always fun.

I disagree with something though. Most JCS fan s want to see the actors and actresses cough up their lungs in the show. If not, they're not trying hard enough.

Andy.

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