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Author:  rock_musicals [ Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:21 pm ]
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the discussion moved from the "101 Embarrasing Moments" thread....

I prefer the arrangements from 1973 movie...
The 2000 were sort of annoying, lame 90's pop-rock


A lot of the people in the 2000 movie were horrible...
I couldn't stand Annas
or Jesus, much less Judas :x

The only complaint I have about the 1973 film was the idea of a bunch of hippies driving out to an Israeli desert..
The "Overture" scene really reminded me of a cult

Author:  jcstar [ Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:40 pm ]
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JCS 1973 is the perfect film. I can't see anything wrong with it.

JCS 2000 was good. I defended this film soooooo many times on other boards, that I got tired of doing it.

But,
Jerome Pradon (Judas) is an excellent actor and a brilliant baritone. He wanted to be Jesus, but ALW saw him (as do I) as Judas. He took a high tenor role ands gave it his all. Yes, he may notr have hit the notes like a Carl Anderson or Tony Vincent, but he is tearing his lungs out to sing the stuff.

Glenn Carter I like as Jesus. The only thing I wanted to see and hear was him cough up blood while singing Jesus. I want the man who plays Jesus to put his health on the line while performing. Carter is a great tenor, but he stops short of killing himself in the role.

Fred Johanson can sing, but his Pilate is too cold.

Caiaphas and Annas are both great. Owens is miscast (vocally) as Caiaphas.

Renee Castle would be better live. She's very attractive and sings very well. But, she needs to be seen live to appriciate her talent.

I forget who else is in the film as I haven't watched it in two and a half years.

Andy.

Author:  rock_musicals [ Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:35 pm ]
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The priests scared me...

Author:  superdave [ Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:57 pm ]
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1973, is better. Because of the singers...It's a rock opera, and they casted rock singers...that is the point.

But I like some of 2000s visuals.

Author:  jcstar [ Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:45 pm ]
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rock_musicals wrote:
The priests scared me...


They're supposed to scare you. That's how the parts are written.

Andy.

Author:  Lord Moe [ Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:34 pm ]
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I like the 2000 version more. But I have certain points to make.

- I like Glen Carter, but those high notes are definatly for someone like Ted Neeley. Glen is just too pretty for those high notes.

- Carl Anderson pulls off the part perfectly in the vocal manner, but Jerome's acting is mountains better.

- Tony Vincent...I'm sorry, but he should be in N'SYNC or something. The '73 Simon is hilarious.

- Ciaphas and Annas, imo, are better in the 2000 version. The '73 Annas sounds like a woman, and the '00 version has that creepy tone that I love. The '73 Ciaphas just speaks and growls his singing, while the '00 one has that deep voice (which does, i admit, get gravely at times) that's great for the part. And the other high priests in the '00 version are awesome, especially the other bass (who played Ciaphas in the '96 london production).

- The '73 Mary ANNOYS THE HELL OUT OF ME. Does she have to slide up to every note. "Could We Start Again Please" is supposed to make you close to tears, not make you cringe.

- '73 Peter went on to be a porn actor. Why did I mention this? I don't know.

- I think the '73 Pilate sounds kinda feminine. I love the '00 drill seargant Pilate.

- 2000 Herod. It's Rik Mayall. Need I say more? =D>

Overall, the best Jesus is Steve Balsamo. :D

Author:  jcstar [ Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:55 pm ]
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Just one thing...

Name one actress who has sung Mary and been more attractive, stunning, gorgeous and beautiful than Yvonne Elliman?

You can't. No one can compare with her beauty. Her voice is amazing, too.

I win.

Andy.

Author:  Lord Moe [ Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:38 pm ]
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jcstar wrote:
Just one thing...

Name one actress who has sung Mary and been more attractive, stunning, gorgeous and beautiful than Yvonne Elliman?

You can't. No one can compare with her beauty. Her voice is amazing, too.

I win.

Andy.


lol, I never said she wasn't beautiful. And I never said that she didn't have a good voice, I just don't like how she sings in this. From the sound of her voice, she sounds like she could be great, but I just don't like how she sings in this.

Anyway, I think Joanna Ampli is prettier than Yvonne Elliman, but I'm not going to get into who I find attractive, lol.

Image

Author:  jcstar [ Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:20 am ]
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Lord Moe wrote:
lol, I never said she wasn't beautiful. And I never said that she didn't have a good voice


Okay, fair enough.

Last year, a friend of mine passed away from Cancer. While grieving for him, Yvonne's version of "Everything's Alright" was on the radio. She made me cry all over again.

No one can sing the role better than she can. But that's soley my opinion.

(While watching the film, I wish I could jump in there and hug her.)

Andy.

Author:  DramaPrincess [ Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:51 pm ]
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Though I don't think it's perfect, I prefer the 2000 version, mainly from a directorial point of view.
The first time I saw JCS was a video of the 73 show and I absolutely hated it. I thought it was the cheesiest most awful thing in musicals and it took me a lot of convincing to listen to the show after that. I've now come round to some redeeming features, but I still think it's a poor interpretation overall. The 2000 version has quite poor singers imo - Pradon I really don't like, Rik Mayall was a mistake and I don't think Glen Carter is amazing, but overall the look and feel is much better (and doesn't have random scenes with tanks coming over sand hills and nonstop wandering around the desert). The 2000 version is more what I can imagine myself performing in/directing

Author:  Jesus [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:17 am ]
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If you can't for yourself discern the obvious, yet genius symbolism which Jewison litters his film with. Or if you can't see the beautifuly drawn parallels which he draws between Jesus' own movement, and that of the "Flower Children," or if you're oblivious to the overt political implictions Jewison makes with his film, then you should never be anywhere JCS as either a performer or a director.

If you think Gale Edwards's film is in the slightest bit compelling or interesting, or if anything at all in that film is clear, or necessary, then again, you shoiuldn't be anywhere near JCS.
Jesus

Author:  Lazarus (Adam G) [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:17 am ]
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Damn it, you're in for it now! That was freakin' Jesus. 8O

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