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Has anyone ever noticed that the lyrics to this song don't make any sense whatsoever?

When I was in EVITA, the entire cast tried to figure out what Rice is saying, but we had no clue.

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They're not nearly as bad as what I consider the champion:
One from A Chorus Line

Please, from what I gain, the song is about a woman who can walk, and apparently her walking turns you on.


Awful lyrics...

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Now Eva Peron had every disadvantage
You need if you're gonna succeed
No money, no cash
No father, no bright lights
There was nowhere she'd been
At the age of fifteen


Lyrics from "On this Night of a Thousand Stars"

WHAT??
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Now Eva Peron had every disadvantage
You need if you're gonna succeed
No money, no cash
No father, no bright lights
There was nowhere she'd been
At the age of fifteen


Lyrics from "On this Night of a Thousand Stars"

WHAT??
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What's so strange about that? It makes perfect sense.

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Sorry for being an idiot, but I don't understand the first two lines - I should have just posted those. Is it supposed to be ironic?


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The lyrics from Don't Cry For Me Argentina are almost entirely lifted from a REAL speech Eva Peron made on that balcony!

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GayBoy wrote:
The lyrics from Don't Cry For Me Argentina are almost entirely lifted from a REAL speech Eva Peron made on that balcony!


That's interesting trivia. I never knew that. maybe it made more sense in Spanish.

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Mara wrote:
Sorry for being an idiot, but I don't understand the first two lines - I should have just posted those. Is it supposed to be ironic?


People such as politicians, musicians, etc. who have had a rough time growing up tend to be more well-liked. Her rough childhood allowed Eva to relate more to the citizens of Argentina in that time period. That's one of the reasons the people of Argentina loved her so much.


It's kind of like how some people seem to idolize 50 Cent because he was shot in the face. :|

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Set_Buildin_Dad wrote:
GayBoy wrote:
The lyrics from Don't Cry For Me Argentina are almost entirely lifted from a REAL speech Eva Peron made on that balcony!


That's interesting trivia. I never knew that. maybe it made more sense in Spanish.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxeoKd4HCjM around 3 minutes shows an excerpt from a speech given on the Casa Rosada

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOKvFlG4lHI

Shows around the 6 minute mark Eva's tomb with some very familiar words on it.

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Hello to you all. I am new here.

This is quite an interesting question, and many people have asked it. I think the best person to ask, is the one who wrote it "Tim Rice". He talks about it in an interview that I found and this is what he says.

"MT: "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" has become a classic now. Can you share with us some of your memory of the day you wrote the lyrics of such a powerful song.
How did the song come to life?

Tim Rice: The lyrics were written over a period of time, it was quite a difficult one to get right.

The title came almost at the very end. The title would cause a lot of problems because we just didn't know what to call the song, and we briefly flirted with the idea of trying to make it a song that would work out of context, that could be taken as a love song as well.

It had some terrible titles like "It's Only Your Lover Returning" and also "My Wild Days".
There exists a version of Julie Covington's on one of Andrew [Lloyd Webber]'s compilation CDs where her version of the song singing "it's only your lover returning" and it just doesn't work.

It's exactly the same in every other respect, same lyrics, same orchestration, the same vocal. But when you got a bad title, it kills the song. In the end, the line "don't cry for me Argentina" was used elsewhere in the show very early on, and everybody thought that was a nice line, so we made that the title of the song.

The song in itself almost doesn't make sense.
I mean, "Don't cry for me Argentina" is a whole song but in a way, it's not meant to, it wasn't written as a song, it was written as a scene in a show.
It's meant to be a string of political clichés, sounding pretty, and not really saying very much. But it kind of worked, bizarrely, it worked as a song out of context.

So, in the end, we got the hit we originally tried for in the wrong way.

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Mara wrote:
Sorry for being an idiot, but I don't understand the first two lines - I should have just posted those. Is it supposed to be ironic?


Well, what it means is:

Eva Peron had a disadvantage everywhere she needed an advantage if she wanted to succeed. The song states it kinda backwards.

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"Eva Peron had every disadvantage you need if you're gonna succeed"Many success stories start out with severe disadvantages. You could say the troubled childhood is the proximate cause of overachievement. If Oprah Winfrey hadn't grown up abused, in poverty, would she have had the drive within her to be as successful as she is? Poverty, trauma, and pain are not requirements for success, but they are certainly motivators. That's how I read that line.

"Don't Cry for Me Argentina" is a confused song, kinda like a political speech.

I see it as a woman trying to endear herself to the people. Kissing their feet in a way, trying to convince them that she is just like them.
DCfMA is Evita's "Jenny From the Block".
Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got, I'm still Jenny from the block.
I'm Argentina. I always will be.

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