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I wondered if anyone who is Scottish actually likes "Brigadoon" or does it just appeal to people from elsewhere?

I have been writing Scottish musicals for the best part of 10 years and by January will have seen five of my works reach the stage. I was inspired by Brigadoon as having seen the movie I was totally embarrased and concerned that people from abroad might think that Scotland was even remotely like that.

Now I will admit that the ballad element of the score (title song, Come to Me, Bend To Me, There But For You Go I, etc) is wonderful. On the other hand "I'll Go Home With Bonnie Jean", "Down On MacConnachy Square" and a host of others are just horrendous, almost as bad as Harry Lauder, The White Heather club and the other drivel that blighted Scottish music for so many years (until Runrig, the folk scene, the Proclaimers and the like blew it all away)

If anyone is interested is some very UnBrigadoon Scottish musicals, you can go to www.hamepages.com. But be warned, there's not am "aye Laddie!" anywhere!


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hamepages wrote:
I wondered if anyone who is Scottish actually likes "Brigadoon" or does it just appeal to people from elsewhere?

I have been writing Scottish musicals for the best part of 10 years and by January will have seen five of my works reach the stage. I was inspired by Brigadoon as having seen the movie I was totally embarrased and concerned that people from abroad might think that Scotland was even remotely like that.

Now I will admit that the ballad element of the score (title song, Come to Me, Bend To Me, There But For You Go I, etc) is wonderful. On the other hand "I'll Go Home With Bonnie Jean", "Down On MacConnachy Square" and a host of others are just horrendous, almost as bad as Harry Lauder, The White Heather club and the other drivel that blighted Scottish music for so many years (until Runrig, the folk scene, the Proclaimers and the like blew it all away)

If anyone is interested is some very UnBrigadoon Scottish musicals, you can go to www.hamepages.com. But be warned, there's not am "aye Laddie!" anywhere!


Don't forget, everyone except Tommy and Jeff is from the 18th century, so their dialogue wouldn't really be representative of how people in Scotland talk now. By the same token, their music would be more in the style of traditional Scottish folk songs than anything resembling modern Scottish music.

Just thought I'd point that out, for what it's worth.

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I'm not Scottish (I'm Italian and Ukrainian) but I take Scottish Highland and Country dancing. I'm not sure I liked the portrayal of those parts too much, as the view of a dance and scottish musician... but I LOVED the story it's self.

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Hi I'm scottish and I like Brigadoon but you're right some of the songs are horrendous but thats what you get when you give a musical about Scotland to a bunch of Americans. Not only that but at one point in the movie just before Come home to Bonnie Jean they guy playing her fiance says lets have some heather ale in a really bad Scottish accent and then says Ale ale for everybody in a very strong American accent.


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Lol thats hilleriously funny. The only actor ever able to pull off a convincing scottish accent is Mike Myers and even then He's Rubbish (I'm able to say that because i'm from glasgow)


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Hi I'm scottish and I like Brigadoon but you're right some of the songs are horrendous but thats what you get when you give a musical about Scotland to a bunch of Americans. Not only that but at one point in the movie just before Come home to Bonnie Jean they guy playing her fiance says lets have some heather ale in a really bad Scottish accent and then says Ale ale for everybody in a very strong American accent.


Alan Lerner nEVER wrote a bad song.

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He's not scottish tho! a scottish composer would have done a better job and knew that they we're talking about. Given the fact that they would actually be scottish.


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Lerner isnt a composer he';s a playwright and lyricist. fritz loewe wrote the music.

however... it doesnt matter the scroe to brigadoon is wonderful.

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Each to their own opinion i guess. I just think it would've turned out better if it was done with scottish composer, lyrisist etc.


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find a few scotsman writing for broadway first. lol

anyway...no one has the lyrical skills in musical theatre like Lerner did. even sondheim.

look at his lyrics to "love of my life' one of the great lyric sets of all time...


The Love of My Life

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At sixteen years I was blue and sad.
then father said I should find a lad.
So I set out to become a wife,
An' found the real love of my life.
His name it was Chris, and the last was MacGill.
I met him one night pickin' flowers on the hill.
He had lots of charm an' a certain kind o' touch,
An a certain kind of eagerness that pleased me very much.
so there 'neath the moon where romance often springs,
I gave him my heart--an' a few other things.
I don't know how long that I stayed up on the hill,
But the moon had disappeared, and so had Christopher MacGill.
So I went home an' I thought I'd die,
Till Father said, make another try.
So out I went to become a wife,
An' found the real love of my lfe.
He came from the lowlands, the lowlands said he.
I saw him an' knew he was perfect for me.
Jus' one thing that puzzled me an' it always will,
Was he told me he had heard about me from his friend MacGill.
We quick fell in love an' went down by the creek.
The next day he said he'd be back in a week,
An' I thought he would, for now how was I to know
That of all the lowland laddies, there was never one as low!
I told my father the awful truth.
He said, "What difference? Ye've got your youth."
So out I went mad to be a wife,
An' found the real love of my life.
Oh, he was a poet, a rhymer was he.
He read me some verse he had written for me.
He said they would move me, these poems from his pen,
An' how right he was, because they moved me right into the glen.
We stayed till the dawn came an' lighted the sky,
Then I shook his hand an' I bid him good-bye.
I never went back, for what I had heard was true:
That a poet only writes about the things he cannot do.
My pa said, "Look out for men who think.
Ye'll be more certain with men who drink."
So out I went to become a wife,
An' found the real love of my life.
Oh, he was a solier, a fine Highland son.
He told me about all the battle he'd won.
He wasted his time tellin' me about his might,
For one look at him decided me to not put up a fight.
We skirmished for hours that night in the glen,
an' I found the sword has more might than the pen,
But when I was drowsin' I snored to my dismay,
An' he thought it was a bugle an' got up an' marched away.
Now Pa said, "Daughter, there must be one,
Someone who's true, or too old to run."
So I'm still lookin' to be a wife,
An' find the real love of my life.

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Mmmmm! Its like miracle of miracles from Fiddler.


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except. its about sex, it includes internal rhymes and double entendre ...oh and brigadoon was written much earlier and has better lyrics.

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