Kad
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Your Opinion of the ModerationJust an unscientific poll. Please keep it civil.
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Descartes
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I think it's fair. I mean, banning doesn't really do much, but I've no personal reason to complain.
Aimee and GB are not only moderators, they also reply to topics in this and other forums. These serve as a reminder that mods are posters too. When I was a mod at a different message board I spent way too much time modding and I eventually lost touch with the regular posters.
Beagle and JP are also pretty funny people. I enjoy them.
Des.
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JP
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As both I and Carbucketty mentioned in the stickied thread above, the mods have started a "review" of the postings policy; besides that, it has always been the case that if you have complaints or comments, you should feel free to make them.
However, simple statements that "things are bad" or "things are good" are not actually of any use, except to make people annoyed at one another.
If you have a problem, then explain what it is and what you want to change - don't just make blanket complaints that you don't like the situation. There's nothing anyone can do about obtuse, generalised statements. And if you don't actually give us ideas about what WOULD be better, none of us are qualified to psychically figure out what you want.
JP
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Descartes
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Well I imagine anyone with valid reason to complain would reply to the post and give the reasons.
Des.
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Descartes
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YOMANK?
Des.
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Tenor4Life
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I hate GayBoy and Aimee. They suck. I like JP. There.
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JP
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| GayBoy wrote: | | You Owe Me A New Keyboard. I spat my coke over it when I read what you wrote. Last night's debacle is serious proof that most people who would complain about the moderation here don't have the balls to say about it but instead hide behind false identities. |
And, of course, it should be noted that it's unfortunate that people might feel "afraid" to comment - as (constructive) criticism and ideas about how to improve things would be welcomed, by all of the moderators, from any users.
JP
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jcstar
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HAIL THE MODS! HAIL THE MODS! HAIL THE MODS! HAIL THE MODS!
**walks away while banging to empty halves of cocanuts together**
Andy.
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Descartes
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I'm sorry GB. How much are keyboards going for?
Des.
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Pounce
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| GayBoy wrote: | | Tenor4Life wrote: | | I hate GayBoy and Aimee. They suck. I like JP. There. |
I congratulate you for having the balls to say it. I like that in a person. Thank you for your candour. Now, if only more people could be honest. |
But it still doesn't answer the question of...why? It's a good example of an obtuse statement. Tenor4Life's remark certainly shows candor but little else.
I would say GayBoy that your wording seems to be more of a dare than inviting comment. The mods should be held to a higher standard. That's the price a person should pay when they serve as a mod.
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Loppy Poo
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| GayBoy wrote: | | Last night's debacle is serious proof that most people who would complain about the moderation here don't have the balls to say about it but instead hide behind false identities. |
Damn...I just deleted my post by accident
Take two......
I'll tell you here and now that I was behind last night's trolling. I started it. I recruited people. I continued it. And I don't particularly regret it.
I've SAID what needed to be said several times. It does no good. I didn't hide behind a false identity because of cowardice. I did it because I am sick of how this place is run and I was feeling bitchy and spiteful. Not to mention that I was so obviously me in some of those posts that I could have signed them in my own blood and it couldn't have been more obvious.
Aimee's behavior as of late has been reprehensible. Despite the fact that I haven't even been here as of late, she encouraged a completely inaccurate accusation that I had been trolling. You know what they say about self-fulfilling prophecies.
So yeah. I did it last night. I may do it again someday. You never know. The way I see it, if you're going to call me a troll, well then, i may as well be one.
So there you go. Strike two for Lops
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Evan the Grubbs
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Hey, Loppy --
Remember when you douches were begging for more mods so they could take care of the likes of me?
Remember that whole movement?
Looks like it bit you in the ass, treeskank. 
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Quique
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DUH!This is boring.
The riff-raff always do themselves in...eh, expected.
We need more Grubbs'. At least he brings a smile to my face...
...one of genuine happiness NOT mere amusement as do them confessed trolling mediocrity.
As for them mediocrities? "They've" just effectively rendered all of their arguments...void.
It's like going through a lengthy trial and dragging all of society into it, just to come-out and stupidly say - "Hey, I'm guilty but I felt like committing a crime, ya know?" 
Quadruple DUHHHHHHHHH.
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Eponine Girl
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Grubbs brings a smile to my face too! And all his North Judson friends <-- they are all so zany.
And I like it when there are lots of fights and personal insults! And less talk of boring things like your favorite foods or something (unless it's mumsytype, because then people pick on her for knowig everything and it gets fun)
Did I mention that we are all losers?
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thegoodseed
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I think the moderating is, in general, pretty good. I wish the boards were less censored, though. I visit some boards where we're allowed to swear all we want, and there isn't this big huge formal "posting policy". Yeah, there are rules, but not nearly as many as we have here. We don't have a problem with trolling nearly as much as MDN does on those boards.
I like JP and Beagle a lot. I agree with what Loppy said about GayBoy, the bit about how GayBoy supports the underdog and tips the scales in the other direction. Aimee is pretty good also, but I think she censors things more than she needs to. A good example of this is when she locked the "Adults Only Spelling Bee Performance Discussion Thread" a couple months ago. There was clearly a warning that the stuff being discussed in that thread was for Adults Only, so if someone didn't want to read that thread, they didn't have to. They weren't forced to read it. On a side note, I love Aimee's avatar.
I wish some of the more intelligent people (Loppy, Ciaron, both Evans, etc.) still regularly posted. I actually don't mind that Loppy was behind the trolling attack. While it was not the way I would've gone about the situation, I'm not mad at her about it. Maybe this is because I didn't witness most of the trolling attacks, as I was off my computer for a while. I also agree with a lot of Loppy's points about the mods.
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The REAL Ciaron
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| Evan the Grubbs wrote: | Hey, Loppy --
Remember when you douches were begging for more mods so they could take care of the likes of me?
Remember that whole movement?
Looks like it bit you in the ass, treeskank. |
Grubbs needs to stay. Restore his good name, or at least let him keep trolling. We all know his personality. He's funny and generally harmless.
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Desperado
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I picked good.
I don't know about other's moderations - but mine were all deserved.
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Evan the Grubbs
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| The REAL Ciaron wrote: | | Evan the Grubbs wrote: | Hey, Loppy --
Remember when you douches were begging for more mods so they could take care of the likes of me?
Remember that whole movement?
Looks like it bit you in the ass, treeskank. |
Grubbs needs to stay. Restore his good name, or at least let him keep trolling. We all know his personality. He's funny and generally harmless. |
And I suck a mean cock!
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Jennyanydots
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I just giggled.
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Evan the Grubbs
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| Jennyanydots wrote: | | I just giggled. |
That's because you're one of the few I've fellated.
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Jennyanydots
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You wish, lovebunny.
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Evan the Grubbs
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| Jennyanydots wrote: | | You wish, lovebunny. |
If you weren't so uptight, you'd wish too.
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La Boheme
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| GayBoy wrote: | Thank you Loppy for your honesty. I don't think that I do let my personal feelings get in the way but we will have to agree to disagree on that matter. I am however human **insert Shylock speech** and I think we all are. Sometimes I do things or say things that are out of character, I believe that we are all capable of that, last night shows that to me.
| Loppy Poo wrote: | | So yeah. I did it last night. I may do it again someday. You never know. The way I see it, if you're going to call me a troll, well then, i may as well be one. |
Regards to this, I honestly thought you were better than that Loppy. I hate being wrong about people, can you show us that you are better than that? I'd like to think that you can. |
Can you be a little bit more condescending? I'd like to think you can't, but one never knows.
Lets address the issue. The unfounded accusation that Loppy was a troll was not dispelled my the mods, it was even encouraged.
You're allow Loppy and others to be called trolls, but you're disappointed with them/us for turning to that as a way of demonstrating frustration?
So while you do all you can to 'protect' the poor innocents, you conventionently ignore utter morons such as Quique, who continues to demonstrate how his maturity level through attacking whoever, complete newbies included, at will and blaming it on his period or the side of the bed or his thighhighs being too tight.
The amount of obscene shit Quique and Psyches, for instance, have spouted into this forum is pretty much equal to the amount that was dragged up last night.
And for everyone whos saying the points are void, and the trolling was worthless, think about this analogy.
When people want to protest something, or lobby a government, ie the Anti-War Marches in London...they gather a group together, and somehow peacefully (ideally) interrupt the common persons daily life, in order to ensure their point is heard...they use this small inconvenience to create debate - people may dislike protesters, what they're doing may be nothing but inconvenient to most people, but the issue gets talked about, and thats whats important.
I think my feelings on the moderation are pretty clear. JP is good, although I didn't always think so. But lately, I can't complain. GB and Aimee are lovely people, but they're too much like regular posters with mod power. On a large, varied, and argumentative board like the Misc forum, mods can't get too involved. JP manages to post and contribute, without getting too personally involved...or if he does have opinions and preferences about people and their issues, he keeps them to himself/is diplomatic about it.
Aimee and GB, I think would be good mods, in a smaller, more unified situation.
I agree with Loppy though, GB, you do tend to try and prop up the underdog at the expense of the 'top' dog.
Beagle's just decoration really, in my experience.
Carb is crazy, and I wish he would stay in the Cats forum.
And someone really needs to tell Quique to dial down the freak.
Thats all the honesty I think y'all can handle right now.
Oh, except for that Loppy is hot.
Good night.
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The REAL Ciaron
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| GayBoy wrote: | | La Boheme wrote: | | I agree with Loppy though, GB, you do tend to try and prop up the underdog at the expense of the 'top' dog. |
Not to disregard the rest of your post, but really, does M.Net have a 'top dog'? Should there be members here who lord it over other members? I honestly think not. Perhaps that's where I'm going wrong? I don't see a heirachy in M.Net members. How dumb of me.  |
Gayboy I SWEAR I don't mean to start with you but I don't think you are being truthful here. I think you do see the heirachy here. I think a lot of people did. How could you have missed it? It was def there. Not saying it's a good thing, but it was there.
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La Boheme
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| GayBoy wrote: | | La Boheme wrote: | | I agree with Loppy though, GB, you do tend to try and prop up the underdog at the expense of the 'top' dog. |
Not to disregard the rest of your post, but really, does M.Net have a 'top dog'? Should there be members here who lord it over other members? I honestly think not. Perhaps that's where I'm going wrong? I don't see a heirachy in M.Net members. How dumb of me. |
I KNEW you were going to do that.
And don't say things you don't mean. You said, 'not to disregard the rest of you post' and then you proceded to ignore it.
You cannot really be this thick GB.
1) I put 'top' in quotes like that for a reason. That reason was that I didn't want to imply that there was a mnd 'top dog'. Punctuation is important. Learn it. Love it.
2) The topdog/underdog framework can easily be placed on any number of individual situations you encounter as a mod each day. Theres always someone having the worse of it in an argument, or less able to vocalize their opinions, or less knowledgeable about musicals or stupider or whatever. These are the people you tend to support, whether they are in the right or not. It is not always the same person, on either side of the equation.
3) Hierarchy is clearly something mdn doesn't mind, as people are classified by post count from fresh face to Bway Legend. Hierarchy and topdog/underdog relationships occur naturally in human relationships every day. As a policeman, do you report to a seniour officer, or to the janitor? People look to seniority and confidence. There are people here who are confident, even arrogant, knowledgable, and generally able to take care of themselves. My point was that you don't mind giving them a knock, if it means you can help someone whos not quite so steady on their feet up a little.
I'm not saying m.net should have a hierarchy, but if you think human life in general, and thus m.net, doesn't incorporate hierarchy into everyday life, well then....you're simple.
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Aimee
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| Loppy Poo wrote: |
I'll tell you here and now that I was behind last night's trolling. I started it. I recruited people. I continued it. And I don't particularly regret it.
I've SAID what needed to be said several times. It does no good. I didn't hide behind a false identity because of cowardice. I did it because I am sick of how this place is run and I was feeling bitchy and spiteful.
Aimee's behavior as of late has been reprehensible. |
How you can post those two things in the same post makes my mind boggle.
Do you really expect people to take you seriuosly and then to think that I am the reprehensible one after the disgusting display you led last night? It's probably vastly to your benefit that we removed the posts because if people could see what you put they might be sick nand you would certainly lose a lot of 'support'.
The ONLY post of mine on here which is vaguely offensive will no doubt be brought up by you again and again and again. It's one post Loppy, compared to all the appaling things you posted and encouraged to be posted just last night alone [let alone before last night]. Also I have not allowed myself the luxury of removing the post, it is there for all to see. Also, the more trolling you do, the more justified I feel in havng posted it in the first place.
Me rehrehensible?
Get a mirror Loppy.
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La Boheme
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Ok, clearly I missed something.
Appalling things? All I read from the trolling was Loppy saying 4-EVA a lot, and me calling lakme hot, and saying something about Griz and Evita.
Yes, the dredging up of old threads was annoying, but if there were appalling things, I missed 'em. Oops.
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Loppy Poo
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| La Boheme wrote: | Ok, clearly I missed something.
Appalling things? All I read from the trolling was Loppy saying 4-EVA a lot, and me calling lakme hot, and saying something about Griz and Evita.
Yes, the dredging up of old threads was annoying, but if there were appalling things, I missed 'em. Oops. |
Exactly. Aimee, please elaborate on the horrible things I said and did. Really. Revive them. Show everyone the horrible things I said.
Can't? How shocking. Maybe that is because I didn't.
Once again. Dim.
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Kad
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My issues with the mods and the way the forum is run:
I think it is entirely waaaaay too clear who is on Aimee's, as my mom would say, "sh!t list", and who she absolutely adores. Sure, you're all human and would like some members more than others and vice versa. However, you are in a position of power on the forum- you should be a role model to the members and try to treat all neutrally unless they do something outstandingly bad or outstandingly good. She is condescending to people she doesn't like. She also, as others have said, been overly zealous in some censoring at times.
Which brings me to anther issue: what is appropriate and what is not. Are some of Quique's more risque posts involving transsexuals and weird fetishes acceptable? Is "My Humps", a sexual song, acceptable? Or is everything acceptable until someone decides they're offended?
This "censoring" also has pretty much curbed the love of debates this forum had- seeing they'd get closed the second it gets heated and someone gets an emotional booboo. Instead of locking a whole topic, delete the offending post(s) if you feel they're truly offensive. Hand out a lovely strike to the offender(s).
Beagle on Stage is a pretty okay mod, but at times may try to stop trouble before it has a chance to occur- closing a topic he thinks MAY get bad. Wait a little. He also, as Loppy said, has a sort of way about him that passively summons trouble.
GayBoy is also a pretty okay mod, and I haven't seen too much of the scale-tipping as others have complained.
JP is JP, I need not explain. (it's positive).
Also, I feel as though mods get to decide who gets to slide by with a rule breaking and who doesn't. Some, at times, are entirely too snippy, condescending, argumentative, and so forth. As mods, you cannot be this way.
In summary:
Mods: role models of forum
Rules: enforce for all or enforce for none
JP: cool
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Loppy Poo
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| Evan the Grubbs wrote: | Hey, Loppy --
Remember when you douches were begging for more mods so they could take care of the likes of me?
Remember that whole movement?
Looks like it bit you in the ass, treeskank. |
I NEVER rallied for more moderation. I hated you. That isn't the same.
My point with you was that if they were GOING to mod, they should start with you. Not that there needed to be more mods. I NEVER liked that idea.
Subtle but key differences.
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La Boheme
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| GayBoy wrote: | Ciaron, sorry, maybe I should have been more clear. I refuse to see a heirachy here. No one person or persons deserves to be treated better or worse by other members because of their posts/comments/length of time here. I'll straight away call myself out and say "except for the spammers". I will NOT see Queen Bees here.
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1) Whether you want to see it or not, and whether or not its deserved or should be there, it is. Sorry. Thats life.
2) Hierarchy is not necessarily royalty and peasants. Thats feudal. Hierarchy is what you have within the police force, or the army, or the government, or a school, or any other large organized body of people to help ensure smooth running. The fact that you are a mod is an example of hierarchy.
3) So, everyone involved in the 'spamming', no matter what their level of involvement/reasons for doing so/honesty and arguments in subsequent discussion, deserves to be treated as a lesser citizen here at m.net.
I think thats a point proven ladies and gentlemen. Were all equal here, but some are more equal than others. And Gayboy gets to decide who gets to play on what team.
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La Boheme
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| GayBoy wrote: |
May I bring you back to the racist comments made by people encouraged by Loppy (though I'm sure Loppy never EVER intended for people to start racist and disability bashing). May I tell you that people said that the worst thing they could imagine was Aimee having children, making attacks on Beagle's sexuality, amongst other things. I hated seeing those kind of posts made. That's what Aimee is driving at by apalling things. |
1. I missed those. My attention span is not long.
2. Aimee said that Loppy was responsible for the appalling things.
3. Because Loppy incited the 'trolling' she is responsible for their actions as seperate posters?
4. Beagle attacks his own sexuality on a daily basis.
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Evan the Grubbs
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| Loppy Poo wrote: | | Evan the Grubbs wrote: | Hey, Loppy --
Remember when you douches were begging for more mods so they could take care of the likes of me?
Remember that whole movement?
Looks like it bit you in the ass, treeskank. |
I NEVER rallied for more moderation. I hated you. That isn't the same.
My point with you was that if they were GOING to mod, they should start with you. Not that there needed to be more mods. I NEVER liked that idea.
Subtle but key differences. |
I think you're just full of shit, baby.
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Aimee
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| La Boheme wrote: | | I think thats a point proven ladies and gentlemen. Were all equal here, but some are more equal than others. And Gayboy gets to decide who gets to play on what team. |
That's the entire oppposite tof what he said. He is saying there shouldn't be some people who are better than others. You are actually agreeing with eachother but it has got so combative that its being lost.
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Loppy Poo
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| Aimee wrote: | | La Boheme wrote: | | I think thats a point proven ladies and gentlemen. Were all equal here, but some are more equal than others. And Gayboy gets to decide who gets to play on what team. |
That's the entire oppposite tof what he said. He is saying there shouldn't be some people who are better than others. You are actually agreeing with eachother but it has got so combative that its being lost. |
point proven
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Pounce
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| Loppy Poo wrote: | | I'll tell you here and now that I was behind last night's trolling. I started it. I recruited people. I continued it. And I don't particularly regret it. |
I know it's a bit of cliche, but get a life! Why go to all that bother? This is just a frickin' discussion board about frickin' musicals!
| Quote: | | I've SAID what needed to be said several times. It does no good. I didn't hide behind a false identity because of cowardice. I did it because I am sick of how this place is run and I was feeling bitchy and spiteful. |
What? You feel this way just now?
| Quote: | | Aimee's behavior as of late has been reprehensible. Despite the fact that I haven't even been here as of late, she encouraged a completely inaccurate accusation that I had been trolling. You know what they say about self-fulfilling prophecies. |
But you were fully cognizant of said accusation and yet you did it anyway? That only strengthens Aimee's point.
| Quote: | | So yeah. I did it last night. I may do it again someday. You never know. The way I see it, if you're going to call me a troll, well then, i may as well be one. |
I think this undermines your case more than it helps.
And about any hierarchy at MDN (I know that Loppy didn't suggest this), I think there are only 3 recognized levels.
Admin (Ms. Chou)
The Mods
Everyone else
Posting rank or even knowledge doesn't afford anyone special privileges over other posters.
I really don't understand what is the problem here. It is sounding as if some people want this board to be more like professional wrestling where people get their entertainment by seeing how outrageous others can be.
I'm still not sure what was happening about a year ago but I think a group of posters were trying to take control of the forum by harassing others they deemed undesirable and I did see posts as evidence of that. Now it looks as if the old and new mods have regained control and this "intellectual elite" clique doesn't like it.
Really, this is Ms. Chou's board and she can have it run as she sees fit. For those that don't like it I suggest setting up your own board like Valentin did with Stagedoor. It's still functioning so I guess it works for them. I don't know why but Musicalforums seems to have failed. Is it because the "intellectual elite" thrive on harassing others and cannot cope with its own company? 
Anyway, life is short and I've spent about as much time on this as I care to.
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Kad
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| Pounce wrote: |
Really, this is Ms. Chou's board and she can have it run as she sees fit. For those that don't like it I suggest setting up your own board like Valentin did with Stagedoor. It's still functioning so I guess it works for them. I don't know why but Musicalforums seems to have failed. Is it because the "intellectual elite" thrive on harassing others and cannot cope with its own company?
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That seems like purchasing a whole new car because your current car has a flat tire. There are some issues with how the forum is run. Not severe issues. Easily fixed ones.
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Loppy Poo
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not to mention that stage door is dead
and musicalforums.com had nothing to do with the intellectual elite. don't worry, pounce. the smart kids like each other
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MrsJamieWellerstein
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My opinion of the moderation? A few are doing their jobs. One has improved exponentially (hi, Beagle). Two have degenerated in a very sad way, as I like them both (Aimee, GayBoy, what happened?). Two simply are not here, one through no fault of his own (Carb, rarely posts, evacuated for Katrina) and the other because I don't know if she's actually a mod on the general forum (MsJellicle).
As for new forums...I dunno. It might work, it might not. There are people on this forum who simply wouldn't move, and then there are those who would move who are truly not welcome.
Grubbs: my memory isn't all that clear, but I'm fairly sure that she (Loppy) was simply lobbying to have you removed, not to create new mods.
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Kad
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Believe it or not, the "intellectual elite" like being around people. If they wanted their own space, they'd all meet on AIM. Which they do anyway.
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MrsJamieWellerstein
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| Kad wrote: | | Believe it or not, the "intellectual elite" like being around people. If they wanted their own space, they'd all meet on AIM. Which they do anyway. |
Which explains why my buddy list is all but clear of M.Netters 
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Kad
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You keep changing your sn, damn it.
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MrsJamieWellerstein
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| Kad wrote: | | You keep changing your sn, damn it. |
Words, words words
It's current in my profile.
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Evan the Grubbs
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| MrsJamieWellerstein wrote: | | Grubbs: my memory isn't all that clear, but I'm fairly sure that she (Loppy) was simply lobbying to have you removed, not to create new mods. |
I firmly remember quite a few complaints about the moderation job and lobbying for new mods. She participated in quite a few "new mod" debates we had.
Now, while she may or may not have come out and said "we need more mods!" she most definitely said that we needed a change in the mods that we had, and a change in the way the forum was moderated.
And ---- -- Shut the ---- up.
If I had been posting when you came, no one would like you.
Now just die.
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MrsJamieWellerstein
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Grubbs, I've been here for years. Multiple SNs.
And, once again, not too clear. But, "change in mods" is CHANGE. Not more. And there's still argument for a change in the method of moderation, as is obvious.
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Evan the Grubbs
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| MrsJamieWellerstein wrote: | Grubbs, I've been here for years. Multiple SNs.
And, once again, not too clear. But, "change in mods" is CHANGE. Not more. And there's still argument for a change in the method of moderation, as is obvious. |
You haven't been here for years, and you're an ass hammer.
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Evan the Grubbs
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And hardly any of this would have happened if they'd just accepted my proposal to make me a mod. I'd have completely changed this place like nobodies business.
But no.
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Quique
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Sizzle... | La Boheme wrote: | Can you be a little bit more condescending? I'd like to think you can't, but one never knows.
Lets address the issue. The unfounded accusation that Loppy was a troll was not dispelled my the mods, it was even encouraged.
You're allow Loppy and others to be called trolls, but you're disappointed with them/us for turning to that as a way of demonstrating frustration? |
You're asking for ridiculously special treatment. May I refresh your memory on how many times Loppy has encouraged her unfounded accusations about innocent members on here? Nobody, other than Loppy herself, allowed Loppy to be called a "troll." How did she allow it?
By being one.
I can easily say that all the cussing I posted on here in the past was because - poor lil' ol' me, I was so frustrated with Loppy accusing me of trying to get excessive attention, that expressing it through vulgarity was understandable.
Ah, but I'm no moron and I will NEVER defend the language I used during that time. I admire myself for standing-up to losers but I've learned a very valuable lesson since then...
...in order to stand-up to lame losers, one need not become a loser himself.
The mods don't favor anyone but the forum policy. Let the fact I currently have 2 strikes against me prove that.
Let the fact I take responsibility for my own actions and haven't been banned since my last strike several months ago prove, that Gayboy's last strike to me has not only made me a better member, it has proved you 100%.....WRONG.
Yes, the system is tough, my dearest Bohemian. But see? That's the point - the system WORKS.
It works by weeding-out all the mediocre, selfish, scatter-brain, psuedo-intellectual misfits who refuse to heed to polite requests by mods to take a moment to reconsider their bitter words of hate, and retaining those who may not be perfect, but are willing to accept and rise to the challenge of doing as much as they can to iron-out any flaws within them.
Boy, do I HATE ironing! Still, I do it...
...funny how you're the ones that got burned.
*Sizzle*
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Evan the Grubbs
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| Loppy Poo wrote: | | We ended up on top. As we always do. And always will. |
I like a woman who's always on top.
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Quique
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Sure... | Loppy Poo wrote: | Let me explain something to you, Quique. In really simple terms (so you can follow it)
We weren't burned. We made our statement. Proved our points. Had a few laughs at the expense of some people who we don't like anyway. We admitted who we were (nobody "found us out"). And we're still here the next day.
With support.
We ended up on top. As we always do. And always will. |
You just keep telling yourself that.
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Quique
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Yawn... | Loppy Poo wrote: | | It REALLY REALLY kills you that we always win, doesn't it? |
And...and..ma dadd-eh is betta dan yeeeeeeeeeers!!! 
*YAWN*
FIN
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PatrickDennis
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 [all the crap Quique says]
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Quique
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Ahem...All the crap Quique says?
Hmm, I'll let the following quotes do all the "crap" talk for me, me-thinks.
On Gayboy being elected new moderator (other = J.P.);
| Loppy Poo wrote: | would just like to say that i called GayBoy from the beginning
congrats
as for the other.....well, we're all going to have fun with that, aren't we? |
Silly Lop. The nerve you had to assume Gayboy to be some sell-out who will choose you in favor over being a responsible, honest, sincere mod. Haw, haw, haw.
This proves you are all about taking sides and stomping on those who dare disagree with you, then favor them when they submit to your twisted, neurotic, tiresome attitude.
I regret ever saying bad things about J.P.. He's proved himself unbiased despite your magical change of heart regarding his worth as a mod. I love this forum's mods.
Gayboy's response to Loppy's post above;
| Gayboy wrote: | Loppy, I shall say thank you. If it hadn't been for your recommendation and that of another poster (I forget who, and I'm too lazy to look them up) I would not have applied. (Yes everyone, blame Loppy, it's all her fault )
When I return from training, beware or I shall be handcuffing all you 'orrible miscreants together and putting you up before the 'beak'! |
You go boy.
La Boheme's response to Gayboy;
| La Boheme wrote: | | GB - The other recomendation was, I believe, me. Congrats. |
LB - The other raging hypocrite, I believe, is you. Congrats.
| Tenor4Life wrote: | | Nice job Loppy. I have to say I was most excited for GB and Rick. The rest....well, we will just have to see won't we? Congrats to all. |
Ah, yes. We most definitely will see.
And yeah, nice job Loppy...
THAAAAAANK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!
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Quique
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Apply...What are you going on about, woman?
I can't make you look bad. Nuh-uh, never, never, never, never, hehe.
How can I do something you've already done yourself?
I'm just reiterating.
I still think you should just hush about all of this, return, stay within the rules, and smile. But since my words mean squat to you, I'll provide this...
| Loppy Poo wrote: | | rules, people. rules. it's not hard. |
Apply thy wisdom to thee.
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La Boheme
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I knew someone one drag that up.
I have no problem with Gayboy as a poster. We don't always see eye to eye, but I thought he would be a good mod. I still think he would be a good mod in a smaller, more unified situation (which I said yesterday). Its very difficult to moderate a forum like this, and I appreciate that. Its especially difficult when some of its members are rampantly crazy. Like you, for instance.
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La Boheme
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| Aimee wrote: | | La Boheme wrote: | | I think thats a point proven ladies and gentlemen. Were all equal here, but some are more equal than others. And Gayboy gets to decide who gets to play on what team. |
That's the entire oppposite tof what he said. He is saying there shouldn't be some people who are better than others. You are actually agreeing with eachother but it has got so combative that its being lost. |
No, actually, its not, sorry.
| GayBoy wrote: | | No one person or persons deserves to be treated better or worse by other members because of their posts/comments/length of time here. I'll straight away call myself out and say "except for the spammers". |
What hes saying is everyone deserves equal treatment. Unless they've chosen to protest the running of the system. In which case they don't. Do you know anyone who marched in London against the war? Would you like them to be treated as a lesser citizen because of it? Don't think so.
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| La Boheme wrote: | | GayBoy wrote: | | No one person or persons deserves to be treated better or worse by other members because of their posts/comments/length of time here. I'll straight away call myself out and say "except for the spammers". |
What hes saying is everyone deserves equal treatment. Unless they've chosen to protest the running of the system. In which case they don't. Do you know anyone who marched in London against the war? Would you like them to be treated as a lesser citizen because of it? Don't think so. |
"Except the spammers" does not mean that people should be treated differently for protesting the running of the system. The problem with spamming is not whether or not it was done to make a point - it's that, regardless of the purpose of it, it's disruptive and is very clearly against the rules of the forum - rules that have been made public for quite a while, which everyone is aware of and which no one has objected to. That's what distinguishes it from people who marched in London against the war - those marching weren't doing anything wrong, and were exercising their legitimate right to protest.
People who chose to exercise their right to protest by rioting, or digging up public parks to throw clods of earth or stones at police and passersby, or blowing up buses - those people ARE treated differently. The reason for treating them differently is not because they choose to protest - it's that they choose to act in a way that's inappropriate. And in our microcosmic m.n world, THAT'S the behaviour that equates directly to "spamming to make a point".
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La Boheme
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First of all, I do see you point. I still think mines better though
1) Using your spammers to rioters comparison - even after a rioter is recognized and punished for their 'crime', they're still and equal member of society. They still get the same treatment under the law as anyone else. The reason I pointed this out is that I feel it supports that claim that GB doesn't tend to mind as much if the person not being treated well is one of the 'stronger' members of the forum. Please see Quiques repeated abuse of Loppy and I and others who are 'vicious', 'brutal', 'disposable', 'mediocre' etc.
2) You could see the metaphor that way - illegal vs legal. I however, would choose to compare the relative effects they produce. Spamming by bumping old threads is impeding the traffic of the forum. Causing a block in the flow of how someone uses this place. Not unlike a protest march blocks traffic, forcing somone who otherwise would overlook a cause to take notice.
Yes, we could have started a thread to make our point, but would that have worked, in terms of getting other people thinking about this? No.
Yes, we could have just said what we wanted to say, and perhaps one should just be content with that. But I'm not, sorry. I'm a crusader at heart. I also have disturbing anarchist tendencies. Its a problem I'm working through.
I guess I don't see bumping old threads as spamming, the same way flooding the place with new random threads is. I'm not saying its not spamming, and its not wrong, but is there no distinction between what we did, and someone like that crazy fetus person who terrorized the board a while back? Maybe not, but I like to think so.
So which did you prefer JP, the 'spamming protest', or the 'revolution'?
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| La Boheme wrote: | | Yes, we could have just said what we wanted to say, and perhaps one should just be content with that. But I'm not, sorry. I'm a crusader at heart. I also have disturbing anarchist tendencies. Its a problem I'm working through. |
in both the real world and m.n world, though, there are consequences to that. There's nothing in the real world to stop me choosing to protest how much my council tax is by barricading the doors of the tax office and parading around outside it with a loudspeaker; I am able to do that, but I know that the "price" of it would be to be arrested and charged. If I choose to do it anyway, I don't have any right to complain that I'm subsequently penalised.
| Quote: | | I guess I don't see bumping old threads as spamming, the same way flooding the place with new random threads is. I'm not saying its not spamming, and its not wrong, but is there no distinction between what we did, and someone like that crazy fetus person who terrorized the board a while back? Maybe not, but I like to think so. |
The postings policy includes "posting porn or other obscene images" as its own separate rule. However, if you come to the forum because you posted a thread asking for advice about what you're going to sing for an audition, and that's what you're interested in reading but you can't find it amongst dozens of other nonsense threads, I don't think it would annoy you less.
| Quote: | | So which did you prefer JP, the 'spamming protest', or the 'revolution'? |
While I actually prefer it when we argue about something other than how the board is run (it's a teeny bit post-modern for me, and debating over what rules are or should be is what I do as my 9 to 5), the "revolution" had showtunes quotes and was all about ME, both of which are obvious plus points.
JP
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Kad
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That revolution was fun. I distinctly remember laughing.
Anyway, this debate is clearly going nowhere. Nothing has been accomplished. No one's getting involved except the usual suspects. And Quique.
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OnceUponATime
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You know, I have nothing here. Actually, that's not true. I always have something to say.
Sorry I missed the protest. Last December was fun, but as of late m.net has been a veritable suckfest where the intellectual standard has been Quique and posts about ice cream. Excuse me, ICE CREEEEEAAAMMMM!!!!11!!!!!. Thanks, but I'll pass.
I'm sitting here in pjs, eating pancakes, and it seems pretty obvious to me. You have one side calling for change, and another saying that no change is needed.
Now I realize that not EVERYONE wants change, but a large section of the senior population (I'm talking in terms of years at m.net, not importance) thinks the same way I do.
I realize that certain mods believe that it's not a big deal that the people with actual real theatre knowledge are leaving... that others will either return or take their place, but I don't think so. If, when I joined a year ago there had been no Loppy, Howdy (coincidentally, she and I joined on the same day), Evan, La Boheme, Kad, Fontineau, Lakme, JP and the like (I think Cairon was on a haitus then, but if not, include him in the list) I don't think I would have stayed. Why? Nothing to hold my interest. Sorry, but there's not a whole lot I have in common with most 15 year-olds (sorry, Kad).
Like I said, I've barely visited m.net in the past month or so... yet here I am in my pjs (pancakes are now finished) typing a post that might almost (almost) rival one of JP's.
As for my feelings about the mods in general, JP - keep up the fantastic job, just stop hiding so much in Spain. GayBoy... man, you do favor the underdog which isn't a terrible thing, someone needs a champion, but be aware of it. You saying that there isn't / shouldn't be a hiarachy exemplifies that. Be more impartial, and you'll be fine. Aimee and Beagle... well, try to learn a few things from the other two, will you?
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Quique
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Yawn...Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
SWAT!!!
*Yawn*
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Quique
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NUTS... | Loppy Poo wrote: | You gotta get the last word in, Quique. No matter how silly it makes you look.
Go ahead. Right now. You want to. You NEED to. Come on. Get your little validation.
Countdown until Quique replies with something pointless and inaccurate.....
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Go, little man (and I'm NOT talking about your height). Go. |
Mr. Cameltoe says;
Yer nutty.
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Kad
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Oh my god.
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La Boheme
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| JP wrote: | | La Boheme wrote: | | Yes, we could have just said what we wanted to say, and perhaps one should just be content with that. But I'm not, sorry. I'm a crusader at heart. I also have disturbing anarchist tendencies. Its a problem I'm working through. |
in both the real world and m.n world, though, there are consequences to that. There's nothing in the real world to stop me choosing to protest how much my council tax is by barricading the doors of the tax office and parading around outside it with a loudspeaker; I am able to do that, but I know that the "price" of it would be to be arrested and charged. If I choose to do it anyway, I don't have any right to complain that I'm subsequently penalised. |
I agree. And I'm not complaining about being penalised. I'm complaining about being called a coward, and being told that I'm considered less deserving of respectful treatment than the other 'equal' members of the forum.
Penalise away. I'm frankly surprised I don't have a strike. Unless I have one and no ones told me.
| JP wrote: | | La Boheme wrote: | | So which did you prefer JP, the 'spamming protest', or the 'revolution'? |
While I actually prefer it when we argue about something other than how the board is run (it's a teeny bit post-modern for me, and debating over what rules are or should be is what I do as my 9 to 5), the "revolution" had showtunes quotes and was all about ME, both of which are obvious plus points. |
what were the showtunes quotes? I clearly have Altzheimers.
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| Kad wrote: | That revolution was fun. I distinctly remember laughing.
Anyway, this debate is clearly going nowhere. Nothing has been accomplished. No one's getting involved except the usual suspects. And Quique. |
Not many people are replying, true, but 40 have voted in your poll. It's a fact of human life that when you don't object to something, you have less to say about it - and most of the people who've voted have said that they think things are ok.
Where's Alanna with her internet rules? I'm sure producing a photo of the Tron man breaks even more of them than mentioning the Nazis.
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JP
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| La Boheme wrote: | | what were the showtunes quotes? I clearly have Altzheimers. |
Wasn't the infamous thread that started it called "Beyond the Barricades"?
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Kad
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| JP wrote: | | Kad wrote: | That revolution was fun. I distinctly remember laughing.
Anyway, this debate is clearly going nowhere. Nothing has been accomplished. No one's getting involved except the usual suspects. And Quique. |
Not many people are replying, true, but 40 have voted in your poll. It's a fact of human life that when you don't object to something, you have less to say about it - and most of the people who've voted have said that they think things are ok.
Where's Alanna with her internet rules? I'm sure producing a photo of the Tron man breaks even more of them than mentioning the Nazis.
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True, 23 said the modding was good or exemplary. 17 said it was fair, poor, or reprehensible. That's still a lot of people who think that it wouldn't hurt to make some changes. However, I didn't vote, and like our good friend Nick O Las says, the poll isn't scientific. The mods could've voted, people could've voted for a choice multiple times, whatever.
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| Kad wrote: | | JP wrote: | | Kad wrote: | That revolution was fun. I distinctly remember laughing.
Anyway, this debate is clearly going nowhere. Nothing has been accomplished. No one's getting involved except the usual suspects. And Quique. |
Not many people are replying, true, but 40 have voted in your poll. It's a fact of human life that when you don't object to something, you have less to say about it - and most of the people who've voted have said that they think things are ok.
Where's Alanna with her internet rules? I'm sure producing a photo of the Tron man breaks even more of them than mentioning the Nazis.
JP |
True, 23 said the modding was good or exemplary. 17 said it was fair, poor, or reprehensible. That's still a lot of people who think that it wouldn't hurt to make some changes. However, I didn't vote, and like our good friend Nick O Las says, the poll isn't scientific. The mods could've voted, people could've voted for a choice multiple times, whatever. |
I'd like explain to Kad, unlike some members, we don't have multiple names and can only vote in polls the once.
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| Aimee wrote: |
I'd like explain to Kad, unlike some members, we don't have multiple names and can only vote in polls the once. |
I'd like to explain to Aimee that, despite what she believes, I did not imply that I thought the moderators did that. Though why the mods would vote in a poll *about* them in the first place is beyond me.
Thank you for your explanation, though it was entirely unneeded and served no good except to put meanings in my words that weren't intended.
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La Boheme
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| Aimee wrote: | | True, 23 said the modding was good or exemplary. 17 said it was fair, poor, or reprehensible. That's still a lot of people who think that it wouldn't hurt to make some changes. However, I didn't vote, and like our good friend Nick O Las says, the poll isn't scientific. The mods could've voted, people could've voted for a choice multiple times, whatever. |
I'd like explain to Kad, unlike some members, we don't have multiple names and can only vote in polls the once.[/quote]
1. He didn't say that the mods had multiple names. He said that PEOPLE could have. Which is true.
2. Mods shouldn't vote in polls about the mod service anyway.
3. Why are you being a bitch?
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The REAL Ciaron
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For crying out loud people just admit it!!!
Without Loppy, myself, Lakme, Jenny, La Boheme, and Grubbs this place is just no fun. It is boring!!! I like Quique but he is about as interesting as Paris Hilton at this point.
Nothing wrong with admitting that some posters are more interesting than others. In fact, there are a lot of people here who just come on to read what OTHERS are saying. Nothing wrong with that. I lurked for over a year just reading all the shit (Evan) and Loppy and La Boheme would go on about, and I loved it!! The personalities are missing from this place. Just look at the posts before this past week. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.
MNET minus The Evan's, Loppy, Lakme, Howdy, Ciarön, La Boheme, Valentin and others is still informative, but not much fun.
Someone had to say it. I know you are all going to say "blah blah its your ego Ciaron" but it doesn't matter. This place needs some caffeine fast!!!
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| The REAL Ciaron wrote: |
MNET minus The Evan's, Loppy, Lakme, Howdy, Ciarön, La Boheme, Valentin and others is still informative, but not much fun.
Someone had to say it. I know you are all going to say "blah blah its your ego Ciaron" but it doesn't matter. This place needs some caffeine fast!!! |
I already did. You ego's reputation is preserved.
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Kevinm1986
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My thoughts on the mods: I fully respect a desire for some sort of order here. It's perfectly reasonable for a forum to have moderators. Most of the time, the mods here do a pretty good job.
What I feel is the problem is the way so many people have effectively been run off, whether by banning or whether they were just sick of the moderating and wanted to leave. Loppy is one of the sweetest, most mature, and most intelligent people here--though I didn't take her up on the offer, she was willing to drive an hour and a half out of her way to give me a ride when I got to the Boston airport after Katrina earlier this year.
Ciaron and I don't see eye to eye on most things, but he's one of the most intelligent people on here (whether about musicals or things in general) and one of the few posters knowledgeable enough and willing to discuss more than just Les Mis, Wicked, and the other big-name shows. I probably had more disagreements with him than just about anyone else on this board and I seldom had a problem with his behavior.
Evan Grubbs is one of the most entertaining, honest, and interesting posters here. He's often quite, ahem, blunt, but that's hardly a bad thing.
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Evan the Grubbs
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| Kevinm1986 wrote: | | Evan Grubbs is one of the most entertaining, honest, and interesting posters here. He's often quite, ahem, blunt, but that's hardly a bad thing. |
I'm going to chew your colon until it grows into a cactus shaped lump.
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Quique
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Egos... | The REAL Ciaron wrote: | For crying out loud people just admit it!!!
Without Loppy, myself, Lakme, Jenny, La Boheme, and Grubbs this place is just no fun. It is boring!!! I like Quique but he is about as interesting as Paris Hilton at this point.
Nothing wrong with admitting that some posters are more interesting than others. In fact, there are a lot of people here who just come on to read what OTHERS are saying. Nothing wrong with that. I lurked for over a year just reading all the ---- (Evan) and Loppy and La Boheme would go on about, and I loved it!! The personalities are missing from this place. Just look at the posts before this past week. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.
MNET minus The Evan's, Loppy, Lakme, Howdy, Ciarön, La Boheme, Valentin and others is still informative, but not much fun.
Someone had to say it. I know you are all going to say "blah blah its your ego Ciaron" but it doesn't matter. This place needs some caffeine fast!!! |
Nobody is against anything or anyone you've written about.
Not a single thing.
Why do you people always dodge the real issues?
I STILL think ALL of you should return, TRY to stay within the rules, and realize you can still be yourselves. Over-grown ego and all.
Just don't expect us to treat you any differently than those whom's heads are proportionate to the rest of their bodies.
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Evan the Grubbs
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For me being so goddamn interesting no one ever replies to anything I post.
I post the deadest threads of anyone here.
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OnceUponATime
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| Evan the Grubbs wrote: | | For me being so goddamn interesting no one ever replies to anything I post. |
So why don't you cry for me, attention whore?
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Evan the Grubbs
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| OnceUponATime wrote: | | Evan the Grubbs wrote: | | For me being so goddamn interesting no one ever replies to anything I post. |
So why don't you cry for me, attention whore? |
So why don't you toss my salad, legitimate whore?
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OnceUponATime
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| Evan the Grubbs wrote: |
So why don't you toss my salad, legitimate whore? |
o i forgot somethin' lemme break it down na' my babys daddy that i am preggers with is an ass cuz he wuz with a girl named bulinda and she is such a bitch cuz she wants my man back and he is wit me and stuff. he dont slap me much nymore since he got clean last week i love him soooooo much and stuff and she is a bitch cuz she made him loose his job and his apartment and his 74 continental on account a she was all up in his shit for child support such a bitch when he cheated on her wit me he was all 'cuz she is hotter than you like to her and stuff and then she wuz pissed and 4ever now she has been a hoe cuz she wants him to pay her for the 6 kids and stuff. whatevr
Consider salad tossed.
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Tenor4Life
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| The REAL Ciaron wrote: | For crying out loud people just admit it!!!
Without Loppy, myself, Lakme, Jenny, La Boheme, and Grubbs this place is just no fun. It is boring!!! I like Quique but he is about as interesting as Paris Hilton at this point.
Nothing wrong with admitting that some posters are more interesting than others. In fact, there are a lot of people here who just come on to read what OTHERS are saying. Nothing wrong with that. I lurked for over a year just reading all the ---- (Evan) and Loppy and La Boheme would go on about, and I loved it!! The personalities are missing from this place. Just look at the posts before this past week. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.
MNET minus The Evan's, Loppy, Lakme, Howdy, Ciarön, La Boheme, Valentin and others is still informative, but not much fun.
Someone had to say it. I know you are all going to say "blah blah its your ego Ciaron" but it doesn't matter. This place needs some caffeine fast!!! |
Word.
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Tenor4Life
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Re: Egos... | Loppy Poo wrote: | | Quique wrote: |
Why do you people always dodge the real issues?
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We don't. That's the joy of it.
"The Real Issues" and "Quique's View of the World" are not actually the same thing.
Bummer. For you. And thank God for the rest of us. |
Thanks for coming back Loppy. I missed you.
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Kad
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Re: Egos... | Quique wrote: |
I STILL think ALL of you should return, TRY to stay within the rules, and realize you can still be yourselves. Over-grown ego and all.
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That includes you. No more stupid, crazy, nonsensical, trannie, lacey pantie, bizarre fetish, sexposts.
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Quique
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Re: Egos... | Kad wrote: | | Quique wrote: |
I STILL think ALL of you should return, TRY to stay within the rules, and realize you can still be yourselves. Over-grown ego and all.
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That includes you. No more stupid, crazy, nonsensical, trannie, lacey pantie, bizarre fetish, sexposts. |
Wow, ya'll have this bizarre fetish of referring to my sense of humor as...well, a bizarre fetish.
Form a support group, or something.
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Loppy Poo
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Re: B*tch... | Quique wrote: |
Only someone as stupid and childish as you would maliciously claim my sense of humor to be a sexual fetish.
I would have something to worry about if it were indeed an actual fetish of mine, my dearest half-wit, but all I have to worry about is making sure you know you're a scatter-brain jerk.
Now go back to shaving your back and leave me alone.
Love ya. |
You know what, Quique. Continue to twist my words.
Truth is that I'm right. If any school admin EVER read your posts you would be out of a job so fast it would make your head swim. And you would, quite probably, never get another job with children again.
This is the atmosphere of the schools these days - better safe than sorry. We live in an age where even parent volunteers are subjected to criminal background checks.
So go ahead and keep posting pictures of yourself along with constant talk of sex, spankings, thongs, and trannies.
If you can't see where that could possibly compromise you professionally, you deserve whatever catches up with you down the road.
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Re: B*tch... | Quique wrote: |
Aww, thanks for your concern Lop.
Only someone as stupid and childish as you would maliciously claim my sense of humor to be a sexual fetish.
I would have something to worry about if it were indeed an actual fetish of mine, my dearest half-wit, but all I have to worry about is making sure you know you're a scatter-brain jerk.
Now go back to shaving your back and leave me alone.
Love ya. |
Quique, you're crazy if you don't think you come of as having weird fetishes on this forum. Crazy. I generally can't read your posts because they kind of weird me out most of the time. And I'm not a particularly close-minded individual.
It also blows my mind that you are determined to paint Loppy as a "half-wit"...because anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see who's winning the intellectual debate here.
If you don't think that casually parading your identity along with the posts you make on this forum isn't ever possibly going to jeopardize your career plans, that's your prerogative. But really...people find EVERYTHING on the internet. You can never be to careful.
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Evan the Grubbs
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Re: B*tch... | Quique wrote: | | Loppy Poo wrote: | You know, Quique... I'm not kidding when I say that you are putting yourself in professional danger with the way you flaunt you identity and insist on perpetuating this overly sexual "bizarre fetish" sense of humor.
You work with children.
You have aspirations to be certified to teach someday.
And yet you constantly post things about wearing women's undergarments and getting spankings from 'sweet trannies'
And not only do you do that, but you post pictures of yourself and other identifying information.
While the kids that you work with may be too young to be on this board, their parents are not. School administrators are not. Fellow professionals are not. And I can promise you that if any education professional or involved parent saw the posts that you make - and were able to trace it to you - your future working with children could be HIGHLY compromised.
People have a strange way of not wanting sexual perverts in the school system. Speaking as an educator, I'm telling you that if you truly value the future of your career, you will not be so quick to put pictures of yourself on the internet alongside posts about sexual fetishes. |
Aww, thanks for your concern Lop.
Only someone as stupid and childish as you would maliciously claim my sense of humor to be a sexual fetish.
I would have something to worry about if it were indeed an actual fetish of mine, my dearest half-wit, but all I have to worry about is making sure you know you're a scatter-brain jerk.
Now go back to shaving your back and leave me alone.
Love ya. |
She's actually absolutely right.
I hadn't thought of it, before, because I never bothered to put two and two together to realize that you actually do work with children.
There is definitely the potential for your position to be questioned if anyone found your posts, which it is highly unlikely they would, but still.
She's right.
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Loppy Poo
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Mods, are you paying attention to Quique's behavior here?
I'm giving him sound and serious advice here. I have not once been insulting.
And he's telling me to Nair my back.
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Quique
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Re: B*tch... | lakmé wrote: | | Quique wrote: |
Aww, thanks for your concern Lop.
Only someone as stupid and childish as you would maliciously claim my sense of humor to be a sexual fetish.
I would have something to worry about if it were indeed an actual fetish of mine, my dearest half-wit, but all I have to worry about is making sure you know you're a scatter-brain jerk.
Now go back to shaving your back and leave me alone.
Love ya. |
Quique, you're crazy if you don't think you come of as having weird fetishes on this forum. Crazy. I generally can't read your posts because they kind of weird me out most of the time. And I'm not a particularly close-minded individual.
It also blows my mind that you are determined to paint Loppy as a "half-wit"...because anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see who's winning the intellectual debate here.
If you don't think that casually parading your identity along with the posts you make on this forum isn't ever possibly going to jeopardize your career plans, that's your prerogative. But really...people find EVERYTHING on the internet. You can never be to careful. |
Thanks lots.
But you interpret my posts that way because you believe what certain scum-bags say about me. I can care less what you think of me. I'm telling you that is my sense of humor and your deliberate insisting that it is a fetish, is uncalled for.
I've repeatedly stated that I find these things funny and that my humor should be taken lightheartedly. You are blatantly telling me you don't believe me when I say it's not a fetish. That's harassment.
Rest assured this latest attempt at spreading crap about me is just that, another attempt.
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ShadowInTheWings
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You know, Quique, I generally like you. You never strike me as a cruel or idiotic person. But at the moment, you are clearly losing an argument that I believe you should be taking more seriously. You are steadily losing the respect I had for you before. I don't say that to be mean, and I don't say it because I think you will particularly care about my opinion, I say it because it's true.
Lately, this board has not been the most fun place to be. The after effects of the "trolling incident" as I choose to call it, have left a vaguely uncomfortable air around here. It seems as though there are more debates than ever, becoming in turns, childish and insulting. The board was never perfect, but I've never feared before that I would offend someone by something I posted. And now I'm not sure what I can say without getting someone mad at me.
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Quique
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Re: B*tch... | Evan the Grubbs wrote: | | Quique wrote: | | Loppy Poo wrote: | You know, Quique... I'm not kidding when I say that you are putting yourself in professional danger with the way you flaunt you identity and insist on perpetuating this overly sexual "bizarre fetish" sense of humor.
You work with children.
You have aspirations to be certified to teach someday.
And yet you constantly post things about wearing women's undergarments and getting spankings from 'sweet trannies'
And not only do you do that, but you post pictures of yourself and other identifying information.
While the kids that you work with may be too young to be on this board, their parents are not. School administrators are not. Fellow professionals are not. And I can promise you that if any education professional or involved parent saw the posts that you make - and were able to trace it to you - your future working with children could be HIGHLY compromised.
People have a strange way of not wanting sexual perverts in the school system. Speaking as an educator, I'm telling you that if you truly value the future of your career, you will not be so quick to put pictures of yourself on the internet alongside posts about sexual fetishes. |
Aww, thanks for your concern Lop.
Only someone as stupid and childish as you would maliciously claim my sense of humor to be a sexual fetish.
I would have something to worry about if it were indeed an actual fetish of mine, my dearest half-wit, but all I have to worry about is making sure you know you're a scatter-brain jerk.
Now go back to shaving your back and leave me alone.
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She's actually absolutely right.
I hadn't thought of it, before, because I never bothered to put two and two together to realize that you actually do work with children.
There is definitely the potential for your position to be questioned if anyone found your posts, which it is highly unlikely they would, but still.
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No. She's wrong. Let me tell you why...
...because it is NOT a fetish.
I've talked about trannies at work with my co-workers, while the kids are away...they think it's hilarious. Especially the vice principal, who happens to be family.
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Beagle On Stage
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You would think that this would be a good thread not to lock, but it seems to me that we've covered what we're going to cover, and continuing would lead us closer than we've already come to something bad. If anyone disagrees and feels it should be unlocked, please feel free to talk to me or another mod about that.
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