crluvalotbear
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Worst/Best movie musicals??with all the hype about that new grease show...it brings some thoughts...what are, in your opinions, the absolute best and worst movie musicals of all time?
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Zines
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Im not sure... I believe that for me best movie musical of all time I would have to say godspell...and the worst I would probably have to say phantom of the opera ( I like the stage show, but I just was not fond of the musical for some reason).
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OneSongGlory
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Do you want movies that spawned musicals (i.e., High School Musical), movies made AFTER musicals (i.e., Dreamgirls), or both?
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Eponine93
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Out of the modern movie musicals, I personally really liked Dreamgirls as a movie, not as a musical. However, I like RENT and the Producers as having part of the musicals I love in my living room DVD player. Then you have the classics. Out of all the classic musicals, my favorite movie is My Fair Lady.
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The Duchess of Mint
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Favorites?Dear Musicals.Net Posters,
I'M being asked to reveal which movie musicals I think are the best, and which ones I think are the worst? I love too many movie musicals to do that, but...I will discuss several movie musicals.
Rogers and Hammerstein: I love the R&H classics (Carousel, Flower Drum Song, The King and I, Oklahoma, The Sound of Music, and South Pacific) because they weave great stories and great music together, and because they star wonderful actors who know how to bring life to the characters, and the songs, from those stories. These stories deal with daring topics, such as marriage, feminism, and race relations.
Disney musicals: The classic animated musicals really gave kids (some of whom would never get to see a live musical) a chance to hear great songs which advanced the plotlines of which they were a part. The live-action musicals were rare treats, because they tended to be rather reflective of the times during which they were created, and because they starred such great actors. Some of the kids who saw these movies would never get to see a live stage musical, so being able to watch performers like Dick Van Dyke, Angela Lansbury, and Hayley Mills was a real experience for those kids.
General 1960s non-Disney family musicals: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the main non-Disney family musicals of the 1960s were Doctor Dolittle and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, both of which boast great actors and great songs. Doctor Dolittle contains a rather weird ending, but its songs are great, and the musical number "Like Animals" provokes much thought about the English lexicon, and about the ways in which people are so careless when they deal with the animals who love them so much. The children who saw these movies were taught lessons about nature, human nature, social relationships, imagination, tolerance, diversity, soul searching, etc.
I don't really know of any bad movie musicals. I do know that some movie musical were less successful than others, but I don't know if there's really a movie musical which I can't stand.
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Salome
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If we mean adaptations of stage musicals...
Best
My Fair Lady
Lil Abner
Camelot
Chicago
King and I
Show boat (1936 James Whale version)
Oliver
Kiss Me kate
Pirates of Penzance
Little Shop of Horrors
Worsat Screen Transfers:
Show Boat (1953 version)
Mame
A Little Night Music
Phantom of the Opera
Stop the World
Carousel
Annie (Television version..although only the cast save the 1982 version as well)
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Matthew
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Best:
Pirates of Penzance.
or
Chicago.
Worst:
Phantom of the Opera.
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Annie
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The R&H classics are by far the best in my books, along with West Side Story, Kiss Me Kate and (yay for Salome) The James Whale version of Show Boat.
BUT...I also need mention one of my all-time favorite movies
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Funny Girl. God, I love it.
One of the worst ones I've seen has to be the Hello Dolly movie. Ew.
hmm. weird.
Oh god, I'm in some of the worst pain I've ever experienced right now. I have an ajoined vein/artery on the back of my left hand that stands up a LOT (a nurse broke the capillary with an IV when I was 10) and I just severely scalded myself with some boiling water in a kettle. Oh god, this is intense. The tylenol and cold pack are not muffling the expletives coming out of me right now....aaaahhhh!!!!
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Salome
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ohh how can i forget how bad Hello Dolly was...Striesand as Dolly? ugh!
only Walter Matthau was cast well.
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MademoiselleMusicals
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Best
Oliver / The King and I
Worst
Annie
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bwayluvor31
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My favorites have also got to be the R&Hs, but I also really like Fiddler on the Roof, Funny Girl, West Side Stroy, and Once Upon a Mattress. My other favorite movie musical, even though it's not based off of a stae show, is Singing in the Rain.
Least favorites are Hello Dolly, Phantom of the Opera, A Chorus Line, Man of La Mancha (who was responsible for casting Peter O'Toole?), and Funny Lady (even though not based off of a stage show. it was a desperate sequal and it didn't even try to disguise it).
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Salome
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O'Toole was brillaint in Man of LaMancha. one of the greatest actors of all time playing one of the greatest Icons of all time. his "life as it shgould be" speech gives me chills every time i watch it. He was wonderful.
the problem with LaMancha was Sophia Loren and James Coco.
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BroadwayBaby0202
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I LOVE Chicago on DVD! I think that it is by far the best musical made into a movie. I was actually dissapointed after I saw the stage show because I preferred the movie (is that weird? haha.) Some others I like are: Oklahoma!, The Music Man, The Sound of Music, and Hello, Dolly!
Sorry, but Bye Bye Birdie just didn't work on film... that may have been the worst I've seen.
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Salome
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Which Bye Bye Birdie did you see? the original film was terrible except for Paul Lynde and Dick Van Dyke. the remake is quite good...alot stronger than the first film.
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BroadwayBaby0202
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I saw the original.. not the one with Vanessa Williams and Jason Alexander. I really like Chita and Dick but I just didn't enjoy the film overall.
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bwayluvor31
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| Quote: | | Which Bye Bye Birdie did you see? the original film was terrible except for Paul Lynde and Dick Van Dyke. the remake is quite good...alot stronger than the first film. |
I agree that the remake was much better, but having never really liked Bye, Bye Birdie in and of itself, I can't say that I loved the remake either.
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Sweeney Hyde
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| Salome wrote: | | the problem with LaMancha was Sophia Loren and James Coco. |
I couldn't agree more, if they had had an actual musical actress as Aldonza Man of La Mancha may have been a great film. The same goes for Camelot. That show has the potential to be an absolutly great film, but if you cast names instead of talent and have an aweful director at the helm that is what happeneds. The movie version of Brigadoon wasn't verry good either because of Gene Kelly and Cyd Charise.
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Salome
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| Sweeney Hyde wrote: | | Salome wrote: | | the problem with LaMancha was Sophia Loren and James Coco. |
I couldn't agree more, if they had had an actual musical actress as Aldonza Man of La Mancha may have been a great film. The same goes for Camelot. That show has the potential to be an absolutly great film, but if you cast names instead of talent and have an aweful director at the helm that is what happeneds. The movie version of Brigadoon wasn't verry good either because of Gene Kelly and Cyd Charise. |
Camelot cast some of the finest actors in the business in the film. Richard Harris is and forever will be King Arthur on stage and Screen.
Vanessa Redgrave is the leading actress of her generation...okay her singing voice sint 4 octavesa but it served.
David Hemmings,Lionel Jeffries and Laurence Naismith all perfectly cast.
the only probvblem with the Camelot film was Franco Nero's Lancelot.
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Trevor
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Best:
Singing in the Rain
Producers
Dreamgirls
Newsies
Bye Bye Birdie (Jason Alexander)
West Side Story
Worst:
Phantom of the Opera
High School Musical
Music Man (Matthew Broderick)
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Bianca.
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| broadway_kid wrote: |
Oh god, I'm in some of the worst pain I've ever experienced right now. I have an ajoined vein/artery on the back of my left hand that stands up a LOT (a nurse broke the capillary with an IV when I was 10) and I just severely scalded myself with some boiling water in a kettle. Oh god, this is intense. The tylenol and cold pack are not muffling the expletives coming out of me right now....aaaahhhh!!!! |
... oh my goodness.. are you okay?!
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opheliarose
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Has anyone else seen the truly painful straight to DVD adaptation of The Fantasticks.
It hurt me to watch.
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bwayluvor31
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| Quote: | | Richard Harris is and forever will be King Arthur on stage and Screen. |
Amen
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crluvalotbear
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personally, i LOVE chicago...probably my absolute favorite movie based off a musical. i also thought oklahoma! was fairly well done.
bar none, the absolute WORST musical movie i've seen was a chorus line...those horrible 80's outgits and choreography! and i looove michael douglas, but what the heck was he doing in that movie??
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ado amber
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| trevorsanderson wrote: | Best:
Singing in the Rain
Producers
Dreamgirls
Newsies
Bye Bye Birdie (Jason Alexander)
West Side Story
Worst:
Phantom of the Opera
High School Musical
Music Man (Matthew Broderick) |
hooray for newsies!!!
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Matthew
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OH!
Lest I forget the Producers, featuring Jai Rodriguez
*meltsssss*
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shakalakababy
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The Best would definitely be chicago, I adore that movie.
as for the worst
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| opheliarose wrote: | Has anyone else seen the truly painful straight to DVD adaptation of The Fantasticks.
It hurt me to watch. |
YES!! it was dreadful. Probably the worst movie-musical i have ever seen. I couldn't even finish it. And I absolutely adore the fantasticks (like the show)
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Salome
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| opheliarose wrote: | Has anyone else seen the truly painful straight to DVD adaptation of The Fantasticks.
It hurt me to watch. |
yes! it was terrible! some good casting..Barnard hughes,JoelGrey,Brad Sullivan, but look at what they did otvthat script!! and the rebbile perfromance of Joey McIntyre only added insult to injury!
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Mimi Marquez
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Best:
NEWSIES
Dreamgirls
The Producers
The Music Man (original)
Little Shop of Horrors
Worst:
Rent
The Music Man (remake)
Annie (remake)
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Salome
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I found the rent film decent..except for some dumb cinematograhy choices and rosario dawson.
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christinadaae
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Am I living under a rock?
What Pirates of Penzance are we talking about?
I actually liked the Music Man remake.
The casting wasn't the best. Chenoweth, Broderick we less than fantastic.
I really liked the dance sequences. I thought they were some of the best on film. The costumes and just the... atmosphere made me feel really into the movie.
I also like Molly Shannon Mrs. Shinn
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Da_Dark_Dude
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rent
producers
phantom
hello dolly! (so feel good)
moulin rouge (does that count?)
worst.
camp
high school musical
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Angee
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don't know if Moulin Rouge counts, but I love it!
Reefer Madness kicks ass
RockyHorror, cuz I have to love my Rocky
I loved Phantom of the Opera (sue me) 
Singin in the Rain (loves me some Gene Kelly!!)
Gypsy
Hated High School Musical
not impressed with Rent
Chicago bored me
I have different taste than a lot of people here! Love the cult stuff.
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Mimi Marquez
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| Angee wrote: | don't know if Moulin Rouge counts, but I love it!
Reefer Madness kicks ass
RockyHorror, cuz I have to love my Rocky
I loved Phantom of the Opera (sue me)
Singin in the Rain (loves me some Gene Kelly!!)
Gypsy
Hated High School Musical
not impressed with Rent
Chicago bored me
I have different taste than a lot of people here! Love the cult stuff. |
No worries.... I, too, loved POTO
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what_the_heck013
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Best: Cabaret
Worst: A Chorus Line
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kiwitechgirl
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I love West Side Story, Cabaret, Singin' In The Rain, The Producers and Guys and Dolls.
I don't love Chicago (Renee Zellwegger just didn't work as Roxie for me) or Phantom of the Opera (the cinematography is gorgeous, but the rest I can take or leave).
To go slightly off-topic, I heard a rumour about a possible remake of Guys and Dolls with Hugh Jackman!! I hope it happens, I love the show and Hugh Jackman can really sing, it'd be amazing 
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Dvarg
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I like Mary Poppins.
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Monsieur D'Arque
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| kiwitechgirl wrote: | | To go slightly off-topic, I heard a rumour about a possible remake of Guys and Dolls with Hugh Jackman!! I hope it happens, I love the show and Hugh Jackman can really sing, it'd be amazing |
Hugh Jackman is attached to almost every proposed movie musical these days. He's involved in Carousel, and wants to do many more. Good man.
See, this is the antidote to High School Musical- making movie musicals that are both good, and trendy. Casting Beyonce in Dreamgirls helped it, I'm sure, but didn't seriously hurt the movie. Hugh Jackman is always a big draw, too.
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Mimi Marquez
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I want to have babies with Hugh Jackman.
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Matthew
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I want to have babies with Jai Rodriguez.
Or Stephen Sondheim.
or Peter Pan...
*meltsssssss*
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katethegreat
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| Mimi Marquez wrote: | | I want to have babies with Hugh Jackman. |
I second that....although we may be in already be in a long que! 
Musicals are becoming more...'trendy' now. Bad side spawns things such as HSM, good side means that I'll get to see musicals I can't afford to go see on stage or may just not be on in this country.
One of the biggest plus's with a movie musical is the music. Full orchestra every time. So many show's are getting rid of full orchestras for smaller bands, synths (shudders) and backing tracks. I remember watching POTO thinking that. I was in a big cinema, with beautiful sound...its so sad you don't get that all the time in theatre anymore. 
Anyway...Favourites: WSS, MFL and Chicago - I prefer the stage version, because I love the Fosse dancing, but where they took that out, they replaced it with things you can always do on stage. I thought Cell Block Tango with the build up of the dripping tap etc was very effective.
Not-so-favourites...I don't necessarily dislike the film of Fiddler, but I feel its very americanised and somehow that undermines the story to an extent. Nothing wrong with american films, but you can tell the era it was made in, its the little details and the accents that get me.
Not a fan of Gypsy either.
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JulieJordan
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Best- My Fair Lady, West Side Story, Meet Me In St. Louis, Gigi, Singin' In The Rain, Mary Poppins, The Sound of Music, Chicago
Worst- Camelot, A Chorus Line, Hello Dolly!, Gypsy, The Music Man (remake)
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