Mistress
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Wicked the Movie-Should It Happen?I'm just fishing for opinions here. Personally, I think it could work, and I'm pretty open with the casting though I think the original cast would be best, with some slight changes, like giving Madame Morrible to someone like Angela Lansbury. There is also the issue of whether to get two actors of Glibda and Elphaba to show aging. I think that, if they choose to do that, they'll ahve to to it for many other characters too. I belive they could use make-up and costumes to make evryone look younger. If they could make RachelMcadama look 16 in Mean girls, I think they can do it for Wicked.
What are your opinions? 
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Sweeney Hyde
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I think it would take a briliant director to pull of Wicked as a film...like me! Only kidding...kind of...
Anyways...yeah I think it could really work. Idna and Cheno would have to be Elphaba and Glinda. I also think either Joel Grey or George Hearn should be the wizard...perhaps Christopher Lee if he can sing...What about John Cullum? I think he would be a FANTASTIC wizard! Lansbury would make a GREAT Mme. Morrible. So would Glenn Close, I think. For some of the other parts they could get big name "hot" people...parts like Fiyero, Boq, Nessarose, etc.
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DramaRobin2002
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I don't think it would work. If it was ever done, the show would need a complete reworking. I also think that they would need younger actresses than Idina and Cheno to play the leads.
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Salome
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I'm much rather see a film of the novel.
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DramaRobin2002
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| Salome wrote: | | I'm much rather see a film of the novel. |
I completely agree with that. I think the novel would have a lot more to bring to a film.
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jazzygirlsings
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| DramaRobin2002 wrote: | | Salome wrote: | | I'm much rather see a film of the novel. |
I completely agree with that. I think the novel would have a lot more to bring to a film. |
Yeah...I agree as well...There's more substance to the book that they could incorporate into a film version, not to mention that they could do more with the special effects, etc...Keep the musical on stage...
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Mistress
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| jazzygirlsings wrote: | | DramaRobin2002 wrote: | | Salome wrote: | | I'm much rather see a film of the novel. |
I completely agree with that. I think the novel would have a lot more to bring to a film. |
Yeah...I agree as well...There's more substance to the book that they could incorporate into a film version, not to mention that they could do more with the special effects, etc...Keep the musical on stage... |
I think it would be a great idea as well, if it weren't for the fact the the book would also need extensive reworking before being filmed. It will be hard to attract an audience if kept as is. I'm sure it would be a wonderful movie, but would people really want to see the wicked witch having sex with Fiyero...and that animal orgy scene would have to be cut out completely (I haven't read the book but I've gone through detailed spoilers and plot summarries so I know most of what happens). It's going to be hard to attract an audience for a PG13-PG film based on a family oriented story. I think it could work, however, if they pulled an Ella Enchanted, basically reworking the story, so,while it's not very close to the original work, it still has a good story.
My idea would be doing the musical, but without the songs, like they did for the TV movie of Arthur Kopit's Phantom of the Opera (the one with Charles Dance). I think that way, they could be much more flexible with the story and even add in things from the book, if they wished. The music could also be used as the soundtrack, but only asbackground tracks.
I hope I'm making sense here
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Salome
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Yext hewy would want ot see Elphaba and Fiero have sex..and many otrher things in the book.
The musical destoyed the novel. it would be good to see a film of the real "Wicked".
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Baker
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| Mistress wrote: | | I think it could work, however, if they pulled an Ella Enchanted, basically reworking the story, so,while it's not very close to the original work, it still has a good story. |
Please tell me that's a joke. The movie of Ella Enchanted destroyed that wonderful book. I was gagging on it's sugary sweetness.
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djcobra
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| Mistress wrote: | It's going to be hard to attract an audience for a PG13-PG film based on a family oriented story.
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If you make the novel version of Wicked into a movie, you're not going to have to worry about getting an audience to a PG-13 film based on a family oriented story. The fact is, Wicked, as constituted in the novel, is completely R rated. Just because it’s based on a land that was created in a series of books that were, essentially, written for children doesn’t make everything that is based on that continuity for children.
A movie based on the novel would have far more in common with thrillers like Basic Instinct and Fatal Attraction (does anyone have any better analogies…those just don’t seem right to me, but I can’t think of any others), than any family film.
Not that it really matters, since I don’t think it will ever happen. Marc Platt has already pretty much said that he was struggling to figure out a way to turn it into a movie, and that’s why he thought it was such a good idea when Schwartz called him about turning it into a musical.
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Baker
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As much as I would like to see the movie based on the novel as well, realistically, it will be made family-friendly. Most people know The Wizard of Oz from the Judy Garland movie, so a lot of producers would feel like they would be shooting themselves in the foot to not make it family-friendly because a lot of people will assume it is, simply because it's The Wizard of Oz.
I'm not defending any producers who may think that way or saying that it should be that way, I'm just saying that that's what's likely.
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Mistress
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| Baker wrote: | As much as I would like to see the movie based on the novel as well, realistically, it will be made family-friendly. Most people know The Wizard of Oz from the Judy Garland movie, so a lot of producers would feel like they would be shooting themselves in the foot to not make it family-friendly because a lot of people will assume it is, simply because it's The Wizard of Oz.
I'm not defending any producers who may think that way or saying that it should be that way, I'm just saying that that's what's likely. |
THIS is what I was trying to say...I guess I'm not good at explaining myself. And I'm sorry about the Ella Enchanted thing. I also read the book, on a friend's recommendation, then saw the movie a while later. I admit, ithe original novel was completely destroyed, but I really wasn't that offeneded...maybe it's because I'm generally easy to please with things like that. I can always find SOMETHING worth seeing in even the shittiest movies and plays/musicals...except Bicentennial Man, but that's another story.
Anyway I apologize for my poor explaination in my last post.
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Baker
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| Mistress wrote: | | Anyway I apologize for my poor explaination in my last post. |
No problem, I understand now. The main difference is that the producers of Ella Enchanted really had no reason - the audiences had no previous expectations to live up to like Wicked would with The Wizard of Oz.
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Mistress
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| djcobra wrote: | | Mistress wrote: | It's going to be hard to attract an audience for a PG13-PG film based on a family oriented story.
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If you make the novel version of Wicked into a movie, you're not going to have to worry about getting an audience to a PG-13 film based on a family oriented story. The fact is, Wicked, as constituted in the novel, is completely R rated. Just because it’s based on a land that was created in a series of books that were, essentially, written for children doesn’t make everything that is based on that continuity for children.
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I was just thinking about this comment and my comment before that. I do believe the Wicked is rather R-rated , but I was thinking more in terms of the ratings we have here in lovely ol' Canada. I know this is really off-topic but I'm fascinated by the mentality of whichever group rates these films. For example, Casino Royale is R-rated in the States, but here in Canada, I discovered that they gave it a PG rating-not evenPG-13 or 14A! It's been done alot, and we don't see many R-ated movies here...we stick to 18A, meaning you can't go in alone unless your 18 or older, but they probably will let you in with an adult.
In relation to Wicked, I was considering that it was very R-rated, but here it'd probably just end up being PG
well, I don't know why a rambled here, but I apolgize for the randomness of my post 
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Monsieur D'Arque
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It could work, if they were smart. Reefer Madness: the Movie Musical was a vast improvement over the plays that came before it, and after the film, the script and score were rewritten to show the revisions that were made.
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Steph1636
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Hmmm...Wicked as a movie? I'm not too sure about this one. You would have to have an amazing cast and a really good director, otherwise it might not turn out so well. There are certain things about the musical that are only spectacular on stage. Like defying gravity, it has been done so many times in movies, that it would have the same effect on people.
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music is my life!!!
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| Baker wrote: | | Mistress wrote: | | I think it could work, however, if they pulled an Ella Enchanted, basically reworking the story, so,while it's not very close to the original work, it still has a good story. |
Please tell me that's a joke. The movie of Ella Enchanted destroyed that wonderful book. I was gagging on it's sugary sweetness. |
but it was hilarious
quote from the movie:
Lucinda:Lucinda here. Fairy par excellence.
Now, where's the baby?
Ella's Mum and Mandy speak the next lines simultaneously:
EM- Out walking.
M- At her grandmother's.
EM- At her grandmother's.
M- Out for a walk.
Mandy: She's walking, at her grandmother's.
Ella's Mum: Either way, as you see, she's not here.
(baby cries)
Ella's Mum: Oh, look. She's back.
Oh my gosh! those lines get me every time!
Sorry! i think it's really sweet but if they did the same thing to Wicked... 
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DramaRobin2002
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Ha ha, I have to admit that I loved the movie version of Ella Enchanted too. I crack up every time the elves break out into, "Let Me Entertain You".
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music is my life!!!
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and when they're in the restaurant and the elves sing "hit the road"... also when Slannon and Ella are in the forest and Ella goes "if the is where you live, why are we hiding?" then "Visitors!!!" that is just the best moment ever! is this the "let me entertain you" from Gypsy?
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Baker
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And, back on topic...
There was at one point going to a movie called Pamela West. The concept was similar to Wicked, except that rather than just portraying the Witch in a better fashion, it was a complete revamp of The Wizard of Oz. Pamela West becomes a very good-natured woman and Dorothy becomes a villain out to kill Pamela West (rather than just an accidental murderess).
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Mistress
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| Baker wrote: | And, back on topic...
There was at one point going to a movie called Pamela West. The concept was similar to Wicked, except that rather than just portraying the Witch in a better fashion, it was a complete revamp of The Wizard of Oz. Pamela West becomes a very good-natured woman and Dorothy becomes a villain out to kill Pamela West (rather than just an accidental murderess). |
wow!...that's interesting to know. Do you know why the idea was trashed?
I find that fascinating for some reason, just thinking about what a film like that would've looked like, though I'm not sure I would have called her Pamela...hmmm...*starts daydreaming in the computer lab*
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Baker
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| Mistress wrote: | wow!...that's interesting to know. Do you know why the idea was trashed?
I find that fascinating for some reason, just thinking about what a film like that would've looked like, though I'm not sure I would have called her Pamela...hmmm...*starts daydreaming in the computer lab*
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No idea why it was cancelled... and I agree, if she's named something other than Elphaba, Pamela is not the name I would choose.
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