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The Duchess of Mint

Which stereotypes do you swear by?

Dear Musicals.Net Posters,

Which stereotypes do you believe in?

These are the stereotypes that I believe in:

1. Physically, women MUST be soft, curvy, thin, and, above all else, FEMININE-looking in order to be REAL women, more or less. Women who don't look ideal must groom, primp, pay plastic surgeons, etc., until every flaw, injury, etc. is gone! Woman is the figure on the pedestal at which man must look up in awe; woman must go into every relationship as the pure, perfect, unflawed one; she offers herself to man as a dessert, a goddess, and an inspiration.

2. When a man goes out on a date with a woman, he MUST dress up, bring the woman 1 dozen long-stemmed red roses and chocolates, put his arm around her shoulder, bring her home, and kiss her on the doorstep before he leaves.

3. Within boy/girl pairings, the boy must ALWAYS be older AND taller than the girl.

4. MEN must fix houses, fix appliances, and be the computer experts. WOMEN must be the nurses and the comforters of the house, and men MUST spoil women with everything that they want, including plenty of bling AND money.

5. Every teen girl should IDEALLY loose her virginity by 16, but, if that doesn't happen, she should definitely loose her virginity by age 25, or 29, at the pathetic least! People who keep their virginity past the age of 29 are in danger of aging too much in all places to be able to lose their virginity at all!

6. Teen girls MUST rebel as much as possible during high school (Ie: Having sex with boys who sneak in through the window, etc.)

7. If a girl wants to look rebellious, she must do so WITHOUT looking unfeminine.

8. One should marry early and die early in order to avoid old age and all of that. I'm personally not planning to live to be old.

9. A woman MUST turn her child into everything that she could never be. If she wasn't able to be in the Olympics, then she must make certain that her daughter is an Olympic champion who wins EVERY gold, EVERY time!

10. If a woman wants a child who looks a certain way, then she must create her child so that the child will have a certain skin tone, a certain hair color, a certain eye color, etc. That's personally what I will do if I ever decide to have a child; I already know what my daughter's name will be, and what she'll look like, and I WON'T have any man putting his two cents in when it comes to my daughter. She won't need a father!

11. Women MUST NOT BECOME OVERWEIGHT! Plump is attractive. Fat is unattractive. Please help to keep the clothing size range varied; right now, petite sizes are rare, and plus sizes are WAY too common!

12. Women who are petite can be attractive, if they are PERFECTLY proportioned, DELICATE, etc., with beautiful faces, slender fingers, slender waists, super round hips, and long legs, and delicate feet!

13. The women with frosted hair, the bared bellies, and the sunglasses, still get all of the attention!

14. Southern women are selfish and lustful, but they pretend to be modest and decent, when, in fact, they are down and dirty!

15. California is a super sunny state!

16. Born-Again Christians and Southern Baptists always go overboard with regards to their religions!

17. The U.S.A. is too politically correct, and our businesses rely so much on Affirmative Action that they're sabotaging themselves!

18. The U.S.A.'s food companies have been taken over by big, controlling, McCarthy-type corporate idiots, and that's why we CAN'T FIND ANY NON-SUGARLESS GUM, etc.! ARG!

19. Most pop stars sing at least several really silly songs.

20. Most married women have lifelong security because they have husbands who will protect them in exchange for sex.

Those are some of the many stereotypes that I think are true. I might be right about them, and I might be wrong. I know that some of you will not like me very much after reading this post. That doesn't worry me 100%, because I know that I'll never be hated by everyone on these boards.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
Cool
Luc

Wow. If that wasn't the most closed-minded thread I have ever read, then nothing is. Some of the things you have said are sexist and racist. I can't believe you would even post this on the Internet.

You are truly horrible.
rock_musicals

musikal_geek wrote:
Wow. If that wasn't the most closed-minded thread I have ever read, then nothing is. Some of the things you have said are sexist and racist. I can't believe you would even post this on the Internet.

You are truly horrible.


I agree. That was VERY sexist and racist. It was horrible! Shocked
The Duchess of Mint

Sexist, yes, but racist...?

Dear Musicals.Net Posters,

I will agree that many of those stereotypes might be viewed as being sexist, but I didn't post anything that was racist. I didn't once mention Caucasians, African Americans, Hispanics, Asians, Middle Easterners, etc.
Cool
pinkstiletto510

are you kidding?
rock_musicals

Re: Which setereotypes do you swear by?

The Duchess of Mint wrote:
Dear Musicals.Net Posters,

Which stereotypes do you believe in?

These are the stereotypes that I believe in:

1. Physically, women MUST be soft, curvy, thin, and, above all else, FEMININE-looking in order to be REAL women, more or less. Women who don't look ideal must groom, primp, pay plastic surgeons, etc., until every flaw, injury, etc. is gone! Woman is the figure on the pedestal at which man must look up in awe; woman must go into every relationship as the pure, perfect, unflawed one; she offers herself to man as a dessert, a goddess, and an inspiration.

2. When a man goes out on a date with a woman, he MUST dress up, bring the woman 1 dozen long-stemmed red roses and chocolates, put his arm around her shoulder, bring her home, and kiss her on the doorstep before he leaves.

3. Within boy/girl pairings, the boy must ALWAYS be older AND taller than the girl.

4. MEN must fix houses, fix appliances, and be the computer experts. WOMEN must be the nurses and the comforters of the house, and men MUST spoil women with everything that they want, including plenty of bling AND money.

5. Every teen girl should IDEALLY loose her virginity by 16, but, if that doesn't happen, she should definitely loose her virginity by age 25, or 29, at the pathetic least! People who keep their virginity past the age of 29 are in danger of aging too much in all places to be able to lose their virginity at all!

6. Teen girls MUST rebel as much as possible during high school (Ie: Having sex with boys who sneak in through the window, etc.)

7. If a girl wants to look rebellious, she must do so WITHOUT looking unfeminine.

8. One should marry early and die early in order to avoid old age and all of that. I'm personally not planning to live to be old.

9. A woman MUST turn her child into everything that she could never be. If she wasn't able to be in the Olympics, then she must make certain that her daughter is an Olympic champion who wins EVERY gold, EVERY time!

10. If a woman wants a child who looks a certain way, then she must create her child so that the child will have a certain skin tone, a certain hair color, a certain eye color, etc. That's personally what I will do if I ever decide to have a child; I already know what my daughter's name will be, and what she'll look like, and I WON'T have any man putting his two cents in when it comes to my daughter. She won't need a father!

11. Women MUST NOT BECOME OVERWEIGHT! Plump is attractive. Fat is unattractive. Please help to keep the clothing size range varied; right now, petite sizes are rare, and plus sizes are WAY too common!

12. Women who are petite can be attractive, if they are PERFECTLY proportioned, DELICATE, etc., with beautiful faces, slender fingers, slender waists, super round hips, and long legs, and delicate feet!

13. The women with frosted hair, the bared bellies, and the sunglasses, still get all of the attention!

14. Southern women are selfish and lustful, but they pretend to be modest and decent, when, in fact, they are down and dirty!

15. California is a super sunny state!

16. Born-Again Christians and Southern Baptists always go overboard with regards to their religions!

17. The U.S.A. is too politically correct, and our businesses rely so much on Affirmative Action that they're sabotaging themselves!

18. The U.S.A.'s food companies have been taken over by big, controlling, McCarthy-type corporate idiots, and that's why we CAN'T FIND ANY NON-SUGARLESS GUM, etc.! ARG!

19. Most pop stars sing at least several really silly songs.

20. Most married women have lifelong security because they have husbands who will protect them in exchange for sex.

Those are some of the many stereotypes that I think are true. I might be right about them, and I might be wrong. I know that some of you will not like me very much after reading this post. That doesn't worry me 100%, because I know that I'll never be hated by everyone on these boards.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
Cool



4) Extremely sexist. What about a broadway actor that doesn't do any of those?

5) That's pretty slutty. I could say a lot more... but I don't want to get banned.

6) Just plain stupid.

9) just plain sick. Horrible. The kid should be able to do what they want.

11) That's just plain horrible. I hope you know someone who reads this might be extremely offended and feel really bad about themselves.

14) Do you even live in the south? I do. Most southern women are extremely nice and proper.

16) I have to agree.

17) I again agree.



Like I said earlier, most of the list was VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY horrible and sexist. I can't beleive ANYONE would ever post this on the net.
The Duchess of Mint

Re: Which setereotypes do you swear by?

rock_musicals wrote:
The Duchess of Mint wrote:
Dear Musicals.Net Posters,

Which stereotypes do you believe in?

These are the stereotypes that I believe in:

1. Physically, women MUST be soft, curvy, thin, and, above all else, FEMININE-looking in order to be REAL women, more or less. Women who don't look ideal must groom, primp, pay plastic surgeons, etc., until every flaw, injury, etc. is gone! Woman is the figure on the pedestal at which man must look up in awe; woman must go into every relationship as the pure, perfect, unflawed one; she offers herself to man as a dessert, a goddess, and an inspiration.

2. When a man goes out on a date with a woman, he MUST dress up, bring the woman 1 dozen long-stemmed red roses and chocolates, put his arm around her shoulder, bring her home, and kiss her on the doorstep before he leaves.

3. Within boy/girl pairings, the boy must ALWAYS be older AND taller than the girl.

4. MEN must fix houses, fix appliances, and be the computer experts. WOMEN must be the nurses and the comforters of the house, and men MUST spoil women with everything that they want, including plenty of bling AND money.

5. Every teen girl should IDEALLY loose her virginity by 16, but, if that doesn't happen, she should definitely loose her virginity by age 25, or 29, at the pathetic least! People who keep their virginity past the age of 29 are in danger of aging too much in all places to be able to lose their virginity at all!

6. Teen girls MUST rebel as much as possible during high school (Ie: Having sex with boys who sneak in through the window, etc.)

7. If a girl wants to look rebellious, she must do so WITHOUT looking unfeminine.

8. One should marry early and die early in order to avoid old age and all of that. I'm personally not planning to live to be old.

9. A woman MUST turn her child into everything that she could never be. If she wasn't able to be in the Olympics, then she must make certain that her daughter is an Olympic champion who wins EVERY gold, EVERY time!

10. If a woman wants a child who looks a certain way, then she must create her child so that the child will have a certain skin tone, a certain hair color, a certain eye color, etc. That's personally what I will do if I ever decide to have a child; I already know what my daughter's name will be, and what she'll look like, and I WON'T have any man putting his two cents in when it comes to my daughter. She won't need a father!

11. Women MUST NOT BECOME OVERWEIGHT! Plump is attractive. Fat is unattractive. Please help to keep the clothing size range varied; right now, petite sizes are rare, and plus sizes are WAY too common!

12. Women who are petite can be attractive, if they are PERFECTLY proportioned, DELICATE, etc., with beautiful faces, slender fingers, slender waists, super round hips, and long legs, and delicate feet!

13. The women with frosted hair, the bared bellies, and the sunglasses, still get all of the attention!

14. Southern women are selfish and lustful, but they pretend to be modest and decent, when, in fact, they are down and dirty!

15. California is a super sunny state!

16. Born-Again Christians and Southern Baptists always go overboard with regards to their religions!

17. The U.S.A. is too politically correct, and our businesses rely so much on Affirmative Action that they're sabotaging themselves!

18. The U.S.A.'s food companies have been taken over by big, controlling, McCarthy-type corporate idiots, and that's why we CAN'T FIND ANY NON-SUGARLESS GUM, etc.! ARG!

19. Most pop stars sing at least several really silly songs.

20. Most married women have lifelong security because they have husbands who will protect them in exchange for sex.

Those are some of the many stereotypes that I think are true. I might be right about them, and I might be wrong. I know that some of you will not like me very much after reading this post. That doesn't worry me 100%, because I know that I'll never be hated by everyone on these boards.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
Cool



4) Extremely sexist. What about a broadway actor that doesn't do any of those?

5) That's pretty slutty. I could say a lot more... but I don't want to get banned.

6) Just plain stupid.

9) just plain sick. Horrible. The kid should be able to do what they want.

11) That's just plain horrible. I hope you know someone who reads this might be extremely offended and feel really bad about themselves.

14) Do you even live in the south? I do. Most southern women are extremely nice and proper.

16) I have to agree.

17) I again agree.



Like I said earlier, most of the list was VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY horrible and sexist. I can't beleive ANYONE would ever post this on the net.


Dear rock_musicals,

You couldn't just stop at getting onto the soap box. You had to quote me, so that I couldn't delete the content of the original post later!
rock_musicals

And to let you know, I don't hate you. I don't even know you!
sunrae

"Everyone's a little bit sexist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing sex crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really sex blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on sex."

words in italics are my own changes to the original lyrics

Wink
Impossible Dream

I don't want a daughter, though. I want a son. His name will be Damien Charles (YES, like in The Omen; "Charles" as a tribute to my grandfather), he'll have a father and he can become whatever he likes in life. Although I would prefer him not to be a pimp, drug dealer, rapist, arsonist, shoe bomber, dole fiddler, etc.
The Duchess of Mint

Your intentions sound good.

Impossible Dream wrote:
I don't want a daughter, though. I want a son. His name will be Damien Charles (YES, like in The Omen; "Charles" as a tribute to my grandfather), he'll have a father and he can become whatever he likes in life. Although I would prefer him not to be a pimp, drug dealer, rapist, arsonist, shoe bomber, dole fiddler, etc.


Dear Impossible Dream,

Your intentions for your son sound good and honorable.
Cool
Impossible Dream

Thank you Smile I love him already, and he hasn't even been born yet.
Lazarus (Adam G)

Re: Which setereotypes do you swear by?

The Duchess of Mint wrote:
Dear Musicals.Net Posters,

Which stereotypes do you believe in?

These are the stereotypes that I believe in:

1. Physically, women MUST be soft, curvy, thin, and, above all else, FEMININE-looking in order to be REAL women, more or less. Women who don't look ideal must groom, primp, pay plastic surgeons, etc., until every flaw, injury, etc. is gone! Woman is the figure on the pedestal at which man must look up in awe; woman must go into every relationship as the pure, perfect, unflawed one; she offers herself to man as a dessert, a goddess, and an inspiration.

2. When a man goes out on a date with a woman, he MUST dress up, bring the woman 1 dozen long-stemmed red roses and chocolates, put his arm around her shoulder, bring her home, and kiss her on the doorstep before he leaves.

3. Within boy/girl pairings, the boy must ALWAYS be older AND taller than the girl.

4. MEN must fix houses, fix appliances, and be the computer experts. WOMEN must be the nurses and the comforters of the house, and men MUST spoil women with everything that they want, including plenty of bling AND money.

5. Every teen girl should IDEALLY loose her virginity by 16, but, if that doesn't happen, she should definitely loose her virginity by age 25, or 29, at the pathetic least! People who keep their virginity past the age of 29 are in danger of aging too much in all places to be able to lose their virginity at all!

6. Teen girls MUST rebel as much as possible during high school (Ie: Having sex with boys who sneak in through the window, etc.)

7. If a girl wants to look rebellious, she must do so WITHOUT looking unfeminine.

8. One should marry early and die early in order to avoid old age and all of that. I'm personally not planning to live to be old.

9. A woman MUST turn her child into everything that she could never be. If she wasn't able to be in the Olympics, then she must make certain that her daughter is an Olympic champion who wins EVERY gold, EVERY time!

10. If a woman wants a child who looks a certain way, then she must create her child so that the child will have a certain skin tone, a certain hair color, a certain eye color, etc. That's personally what I will do if I ever decide to have a child; I already know what my daughter's name will be, and what she'll look like, and I WON'T have any man putting his two cents in when it comes to my daughter. She won't need a father!

11. Women MUST NOT BECOME OVERWEIGHT! Plump is attractive. Fat is unattractive. Please help to keep the clothing size range varied; right now, petite sizes are rare, and plus sizes are WAY too common!

12. Women who are petite can be attractive, if they are PERFECTLY proportioned, DELICATE, etc., with beautiful faces, slender fingers, slender waists, super round hips, and long legs, and delicate feet!

13. The women with frosted hair, the bared bellies, and the sunglasses, still get all of the attention!

14. Southern women are selfish and lustful, but they pretend to be modest and decent, when, in fact, they are down and dirty!

15. California is a super sunny state!

16. Born-Again Christians and Southern Baptists always go overboard with regards to their religions!

17. The U.S.A. is too politically correct, and our businesses rely so much on Affirmative Action that they're sabotaging themselves!

18. The U.S.A.'s food companies have been taken over by big, controlling, McCarthy-type corporate idiots, and that's why we CAN'T FIND ANY NON-SUGARLESS GUM, etc.! ARG!

19. Most pop stars sing at least several really silly songs.

20. Most married women have lifelong security because they have husbands who will protect them in exchange for sex.

Those are some of the many stereotypes that I think are true. I might be right about them, and I might be wrong. I know that some of you will not like me very much after reading this post. That doesn't worry me 100%, because I know that I'll never be hated by everyone on these boards.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
Cool



You are one of the most close-minded people on the planet.
Monsieur D'Arque

It's all a put on. Just like Marilyn Manson isn't really The Devil, The Dutchess of Mint isn't really anything. She's a pretty good satirist, actually, when you realize that nothing she says is true, but always has one or two grains of truth in it. Maybe she contradicts these truths, but there's something bizarrely appealing about her posts nonetheless.

For instance, remember the bizarre lengths she went to when asked if she'd heard of a musical called "Yours, Anne?" She invented an entire soap opera of a plot, created names for all the songs, then was revealed as sham when the musical was identified as a musical version of "The Diary of Anne Frank." Classic.
Luc

But, even so. Somebody could get offended here, and if it all ended up to be one big joke, I don't think they would find it funny at all.

IMHO, Duchess doesn't produce any productive posts. If I was a Mod, she'd be out of here before you can count to one. But, I'm not, so it's not my decision.
Quique

I skimmed through this thread earlier and missed the part where she said she really truly believes all those things.

Still, I don't think it's anything to get so excited about. I actually found some of them to be quite funny, hehe.

I'm shocked that anyone would think Duchess' threads are worth locking and that she's worth banning! I love her! And her threads aren't pointless most of the time. They are usually quite thought provoking and sometimes silly but they make me laugh and that's always good.

Loves me some Duchess.
NoOneMournsTheWicked

Re: Which setereotypes do you swear by?

rock_musicals wrote:



5) That's pretty slutty. I could say a lot more... but I don't want to get banned.






Are you implying that sexually active teenage girls are sluts?
Gavroche

Mabye i'm just a nonconformist, but I've always tried to look at people for who they are and not generalise them.
Gavroche

And furthermore, I believe you contradict yourself.

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11. Women MUST NOT BECOME OVERWEIGHT! Plump is attractive. Fat is unattractive. Please help to keep the clothing size range varied; right now, petite sizes are rare, and plus sizes are WAY too common!


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2. When a man goes out on a date with a woman, he MUST dress up, bring the woman 1 dozen long-stemmed red roses and chocolates, put his arm around her shoulder, bring her home, and kiss her on the doorstep before he leaves.


Now, unless the woman meets her perfect man on the first try, those chocolates are bound to add up, are they not? have you seen the nutrition facts on those things? an ounce of chocolate adds like a pound of fat. "listen, you just aren't fat enough, dear. here's some chocolates. and while I was at it I got some hot pockets, spam, and lard."
purplepolkadot

Re: Which setereotypes do you swear by?

1. Physically, women MUST be soft, curvy, thin, and, above all else, FEMININE-looking in order to be REAL women, more or less. Women who don't look ideal must groom, primp, pay plastic surgeons, etc., until every flaw, injury, etc. is gone! Woman is the figure on the pedestal at which man must look up in awe; woman must go into every relationship as the pure, perfect, unflawed one; she offers herself to man as a dessert, a goddess, and an inspiration.
No, I dont agree with this.. That just seems really rediculous and woman can be 'real women' however they look

2. When a man goes out on a date with a woman, he MUST dress up, bring the woman 1 dozen long-stemmed red roses and chocolates, put his arm around her shoulder, bring her home, and kiss her on the doorstep before he leaves.
this isnt really a stereotype..its always NICE when a boy does this, but it just depends on what kind of guy the guy is. its up to him, and shouldnt be 'expected'

3. Within boy/girl pairings, the boy must ALWAYS be older AND taller than the girl.
i agree....so sue me

4. MEN must fix houses, fix appliances, and be the computer experts. WOMEN must be the nurses and the comforters of the house, and men MUST spoil women with everything that they want, including plenty of bling AND money.
this is just the typical 50s housewife deal. no its not true anymore. i dont even think its a stereotype

5. Every teen girl should IDEALLY loose her virginity by 16, but, if that doesn't happen, she should definitely loose her virginity by age 25, or 29, at the pathetic least! People who keep their virginity past the age of 29 are in danger of aging too much in all places to be able to lose their virginity at all!
theres not time when a girl SHOULD lose her virginity

6. Teen girls MUST rebel as much as possible during high school (Ie: Having sex with boys who sneak in through the window, etc.)
i dont...

7. If a girl wants to look rebellious, she must do so WITHOUT looking unfeminine.
this is mostly true....

8. One should marry early and die early in order to avoid old age and all of that. I'm personally not planning to live to be old.
no

9. A woman MUST turn her child into everything that she could never be. If she wasn't able to be in the Olympics, then she must make certain that her daughter is an Olympic champion who wins EVERY gold, EVERY time!
this isnt a stereotype either..its just what some mothers do

10. If a woman wants a child who looks a certain way, then she must create her child so that the child will have a certain skin tone, a certain hair color, a certain eye color, etc. That's personally what I will do if I ever decide to have a child; I already know what my daughter's name will be, and what she'll look like, and I WON'T have any man putting his two cents in when it comes to my daughter. She won't need a father!
because you can predict what color they childs eye color is..and stuff...sorry thats not biologically possible.

11. Women MUST NOT BECOME OVERWEIGHT! Plump is attractive. Fat is unattractive. Please help to keep the clothing size range varied; right now, petite sizes are rare, and plus sizes are WAY too common!
but this isnt true!!!

12. Women who are petite can be attractive, if they are PERFECTLY proportioned, DELICATE, etc., with beautiful faces, slender fingers, slender waists, super round hips, and long legs, and delicate feet!
isnt this kind of rediclous?

13. The women with frosted hair, the bared bellies, and the sunglasses, still get all of the attention!
no, people just think their hos

14. Southern women are selfish and lustful, but they pretend to be modest and decent, when, in fact, they are down and dirty!
not really

15. California is a super sunny state!
normally it is. i agree.

16. Born-Again Christians and Southern Baptists always go overboard with regards to their religions!
not all.

17. The U.S.A. is too politically correct, and our businesses rely so much on Affirmative Action that they're sabotaging themselves!
ugg dont get me started

18. The U.S.A.'s food companies have been taken over by big, controlling, McCarthy-type corporate idiots, and that's why we CAN'T FIND ANY NON-SUGARLESS GUM, etc.! ARG!
i dont get this one..

19. Most pop stars sing at least several really silly songs.
Yes. they do. But silly sint always necessarily a bad thing.

20. Most married women have lifelong security because they have husbands who will protect them in exchange for sex.
awkaward..[/b]
benjivaudeville

I find this rather funny whether it's a joke or not.

Here's something I believe:

"All the good looking guys are gay."

Razz
Robinflamingo

Mumsytype wrote:


I'm astonished that ANYONE took ANY part of this seriously.
I thought you were rather brighter than that.


I am personally brighter than that. My problem is that I'm not sure if the OP is.
MademoiselleMusicals

musikal_geek wrote:
But, even so. Somebody could get offended here, and if it all ended up to be one big joke, I don't think they would find it funny at all.

IMHO, Duchess doesn't produce any productive posts. If I was a Mod, she'd be out of here before you can count to one. But, I'm not, so it's not my decision.



I agree. If I saw this post at first I would be VERY offended but now seeing all the posts and TheDuchessOfMint commenting that she's mocking it etc etc it's humour.

However. I think it's digusting that you can make a joke about
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5. Every teen girl should IDEALLY loose her virginity by 16, but, if that doesn't happen, she should definitely loose her virginity by age 25, or 29, at the pathetic least! People who keep their virginity past the age of 29 are in danger of aging too much in all places to be able to lose their virginity at all!



That's sick. Everyone is different as I personally believe 16 is far too young. Grow up Duchess.
rock_musicals

Re: Which setereotypes do you swear by?

NoOneMournsTheWicked wrote:
rock_musicals wrote:



5) That's pretty slutty. I could say a lot more... but I don't want to get banned.






Are you implying that sexually active teenage girls are sluts?


No. I'm saying there shouldn't be an age to be sexually active. It's slutty to say that a teenage girl HAS to lose virginity by 16.
Robinflamingo

Mumsytype wrote:
Robinflamingo wrote:
Mumsytype wrote:


I'm astonished that ANYONE took ANY part of this seriously.
I thought you were rather brighter than that.


I am personally brighter than that. My problem is that I'm not sure if the OP is.


Heeheehee thought you would be.
I'm being dim, now. What's the 'OP'?
(I really should lay off the Baileys on Friday nights)


OP is Original Poster. Dang, I miss Baileys. Stoopid disease. Although my doctor does approve of Merlot, thankfully. Laughing Cool
MsDivaKate

Joke or not, I find it humerous that a post on whether someone should like Glinda or Elphaba on the Wicked forum gets locked, but something like this that is obviously upsetting enough people is let to just go.

While some of the Duchess' posts can be amusing, many of them are a bit off.
The Duchess of Mint

I'm going to be perfectly honest...

Dear Musicals.Net Posters,

I'm going to do something very bizarre. I'm going to be perfectly honest with all of you.

I was not joking when I posted those stereotypical ideas. I have believed in all of those sentiments during a good deal of my life so far, and I was just curious to know how everyone else viewed those ideas, and how out of touch with real life I really am.

I'm obviously not thinking in the same way that everyone else is thinking, but I have had some reasons for believing in the stereotypes that I posted.

If you, having never had a really romantic relationship, always saw girls with guys' arms around them, you'd assume, as I have, that the purpose of having a boyfriend, or a husband, is to be protected from everything. If you sensed that everyone around you was not a virgin, and that they'd lived fast in high school, you'd assume, as I have, that that's how you were supposed to live. If you were raised on Disney movies, and you loved vintage sit-coms to the same degree to which I love them, you'd assume, as I have, that women must be perfect.

I defy you to name me one movie, t.v. show, etc. (besides G.I. Jane and Shrek) wherein the main heroine was/ is majorly ugly, disabled, awkward, fat, etc. (from the start of the movie to the end, with no Cinderella transformation) I know that those types of heroines don't sell, but that's just my point. I'm totally bowled over that the media hasn't brainwashed more people into believing that we all have to use Lysol and Clorox to clean our bubblegum pink, Stepford-efficient, retro electric mixers in our suburban houses with vinyl siding and Congolium flooring!

Oh, well. "We'll leave the light on for you." "I'm lovin' it!" "Nothin' says lovin' like somethin' from the oven!" "Play! Laugh! Grow!" "When a teen-ager is hungry, it seems like there are two of them!" "Built Ford tough!" "Stop doing those dishes and play your video games!" Meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow..."oh, forget it.

That last paragraph was satire, but I don't have time to explain that now, because I have to go get re-programmed by my husband in the town of Stepford. Laughing
dramaqueen220222

I find it humorous that people are taking this so seriously. Come on, the Duchess is possibly one of the most sarcastic posters on here. I'm not saying to never believe a word she says, but I thought it was rather obvious that this was all done for laughs.
Robinflamingo

But herein lies the problem: comedy, no matter how sarcastic or satirical, has its roots in truth. That means on some level, this rings true for people. THAT'S my problem with it. THAT'S my problem with posting or speaking or responding to stereotypes - anytime you dignify an idea with words, it becomes someone's version of truth.

If a comic who tells racist jokes is scratched deep enough, you find...a racist.
Robinflamingo

Re: I'm going to be perfectly honest...

The Duchess of Mint wrote:
Dear Musicals.Net Posters,

I defy you to name me one movie, t.v. show, etc. (besides G.I. Jane and Shrek) wherein the main heroine was/ is majorly ugly, disabled, awkward, fat, etc. (from the start of the movie to the end, with no Cinderella transformation)


Ugly Betty
King of Queens
Roseanne
Good Times
The Sopranos
Family Matters
Gimme a Break
When Harry Met Sally - in fact, anything starring Billy Crystal

...to name a few.
Luc

^Tracy Turnblad, anyone?
Hans

Re: Which setereotypes do you swear by?

The Duchess of Mint wrote:
These are the stereotypes that I believe in:


What do you mean when you say you believe in these stereotypes? Do you mean that you believe they exist and that they influence society? Or do you mean you believe women physically ought to be soft, that a man ought to dress up to a date, that he ought to be taller and older than the girl etc?
Jordan

Aside from the obvious, that this was obviously intended to stir, you have two choices as a community; ignore it or play along. My personal choice has been to ignore it.

However, checking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype I'm happy to let DoM believe in her stereotypes all she likes. (Spelling mistake in the title aside!)
Matthew

rolls eyes at people who are still ranting about satire.
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