bean_C4U
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Vocal rangesI am a bass, and wondered which, and how many roles, would suit me.
Despite being a bass, i found out I could sing a tenor sonbg the other day, so, baritone would also suit me fine! A few high notes, i can cope with.
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what_the_heck013
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Sweeney Todd and Judge Turpin are both bass parts. Maybe even the Beadle.
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Perogo Ness
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Sweeney is a baritone.
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Descartes
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Anthony is a tenor, and the Beadle requires some amazing range.
Des.
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what_the_heck013
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| Perogo Ness wrote: | | Sweeney is a baritone. |
I mostly consider bass and baritone the same thing. Most basses can hit baritone notes and most baritones can hit bass notes.
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jadenbelle
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Sweeney is a baritone, the Judge is a bass-baritone (I think), Anthony and Toby are tenors, and Pirelli and the Beadle are operatic tenors.
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what_the_heck013
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Yeah, I wasn't sure about the Beadles range. He doesn't sing much. I know he sings in the parlor song sequence.
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Descartes
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The Beadle's role is vocally crazy.
Des.
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Fogeyman
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| Descartes wrote: | | The Beadle's role is vocally crazy. |
And gets VERY high at times.
And most baritones can NOT hit bass notes. That's why we're baritones. Some of us even stretch toward tenor. But in general, we can't go up to the full tenor range either.
In general, baritones can sing higher than basses, and lower than tenors. Your mileage may vary.
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Descartes
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| Fogeyman wrote: | | Descartes wrote: | | The Beadle's role is vocally crazy. |
And gets VERY high at times.
And most baritones can NOT hit bass notes. That's why we're baritones. Some of us even stretch toward tenor. But in general, we can't go up to the full tenor range either.
In general, baritones can sing higher than basses, and lower than tenors. Your mileage may vary. |
I go to the tenor range.
Des.
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Jud
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Basses and baritones are NOT the same thing. I'm offended anyone would even suggest that. 
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mizzie
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I've always considered Beadle to be a tenor with falsetto, just based on hearing Ladies and Their Sensitivities. Is it supposed to go into falsetto, or stay legit?
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what_the_heck013
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Well, actually, you guys are right. Sweeney is a baritone. I think the point I was trying to make is that he has some very low (bass) and very high (baritone) notes.
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TychoBrahe
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I'm not certain, but I beleive the Beadle is a counter-tenor.
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llawder6808
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I'm a bass; as in down to a low 'D' bass (a 'C' on a really good day) and I can hit all of Sweeney's notes. I know that's he's always listed as a baritone but personally I'd consider him a bass. He has some pretty low shit to sing. I mean, he's certainly no Caiaphas, but anyway, my advice: go for Sweeney.
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pinkstiletto510
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| mizzie wrote: | | I've always considered Beadle to be a tenor with falsetto, just based on hearing Ladies and Their Sensitivities. Is it supposed to go into falsetto, or stay legit? |
when I saw it, Beadle did the high notes full voiced (not falsetto-ed) it was amazing
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what_the_heck013
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I don't think that the Beadle or Pirelli should sing falsetto. It ruins their characters--especially Pirelli.
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Perogo Ness
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The Beadle has to sing falsetto, unless he's a castrato. Tell me sometime you've heard a Beadle who never at any point sings in his falsetto range.
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Descartes
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From what my untrained ear can tell of the sample clips of the new Sweeney cast on Barnes and Noble, The Beadle doesn't use his falsetto.
Des.
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Perogo Ness
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Not all the time. But for certain parts. Like when he and the Judge are singing Ladies and Their Sensitivities, part of that he sings falsetto. And when he and Pirelli have their Ballad of Sweeney duet thing.
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Timmerbo
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If the Beadle didn't sing in falsetto during his harmony with Pirelli, and it actually sounded good... that would probably be the coolest thing ever.
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ByeByeBirdieFan89
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I would not consider Anthony a tenor role at all.
The original Victor Garber keys for Anthony (also used in the new revival) are most certainly for baritones.
The Anthony on the tour DVD did sing in higher keys - but using the orignal keys I would say Anthony is a baritone. A higher baritone.
Now Beadle and Pirelli - those are the crazy tenor roles..
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IvanP
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| Perogo Ness wrote: | | The Beadle has to sing falsetto, unless he's a castrato. Tell me sometime you've heard a Beadle who never at any point sings in his falsetto range. |
The Sweeney cast in my head that has Colm Wilkinson as the Beadle.
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Descartes
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| IvanP wrote: | | Perogo Ness wrote: | | The Beadle has to sing falsetto, unless he's a castrato. Tell me sometime you've heard a Beadle who never at any point sings in his falsetto range. |
The Sweeney cast in my head that has Colm Wilkinson as the Beadle. |
Who else is in your cast, because CW sounds like a pretty good idea.
Des.
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Perogo Ness
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Me as Sweeney 
I wish they had a bigger cheesey wink emoticon.
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what_the_heck013
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| Perogo Ness wrote: | | The Beadle has to sing falsetto, unless he's a castrato. |
That made me crack up for some reason.
ByeByeBirdieFan89, for lack of a better word, I consider Antony a bari-tenor.
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aidancarr
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the judge sings an E in pretty women, technically the top of the operatic bass range.
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GinnyWeasley201
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johanna is a sorprano but what is mrs. lovett
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Kragey
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| GinnyWeasley201 wrote: | | johanna is a sorprano but what is mrs. lovett |
I was relatively sure she was a flexible mezzo, but I'm probably off a bit.
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ConverseSneaker
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What is the highest note Johanna and the Beggar Woman hit?
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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| GinnyWeasley201 wrote: | | johanna is a sorprano but what is mrs. lovett |
I'm guessing an alto.
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EponineBarker
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| Lazarus (Adam G) wrote: | | GinnyWeasley201 wrote: | | johanna is a sorprano but what is mrs. lovett |
I'm guessing an alto. |
I always figured she was a mezzo-soprano cause of some of the higher notes she hits in "My Friends" and that one note in "Wait."
But that's just me.
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GinnyWeasley201
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well there really isn't a lot of difference between the range of mezzo and soprano. It's really just color of the voice.
I'm a soprano. and my mom who we never actually figured out what she is because she doesn't really sing much anymore, can sing Mrs. Lovett. and when she sings it sounds only somewhat comfortable for her but i have to ask her. she really wants to play Mrs. lovett someday. my mom seems to be really seems to be most comfortable singing alto and high tenor parts.
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GinnyWeasley201
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so thats why i was wondering.
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