centerstage08
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The Wizard of Oz...what do you guys think?Tonight I am meeting with my drama club advisor/director to discuss plans for this year. I know he wants to do a well-known show and make a lot of money and spend little.(we spent to much on our last show and now we have to budget around that) I was thinking of suggesting The Wizard of Oz because we can borrow and alter the costumes for most of the characters (all but munchkins, ozians, and the jitterbugs). We can also borrow many props and a really nice yellow brick road. Also this show will allow us to cast middle schoolers as munchkins which will give us a bigger cast.
I guess what I am asking is what would be some good things and bad things about this show that I may have missed?
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pish123c
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Re: The Wizard of Oz...what do you guys think? | centerstage08 wrote: |
I guess what I am asking is what would be some good things and bad things about this show that I may have missed? |
How about the fact that it's a kiddy show?
I dunno, it's just one of those shows that's so iconic that I don't really think of it as a "musical" at first. Kind of like High School Musical.
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wicked_boy
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^ Everyone has grown up with Oz. Everyone loves it. Oldies, youngies, teenies.
Erm, maybe ITW is a kiddy's show because it's about fairytales?
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pish123c
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ITW is by no means comparable to The Wizard of Oz.
But that's another topic for another day. I'll let the malicious Sondheimists talk to you about that one.
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kiwitechgirl
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It's worth remembering that there are two versions of the show - the MUNY version which is technically not as complex, and closer to the original book, and the RSC version which is almost exactly a stage version of the film, and has more complex technical requirements. I've done both versions (although it was more than ten years ago that I did the MUNY version!) and prefer the RSC version, but the MUNY version would probably be cheaper to produce. Personally I like the show; I don't think it's a kiddy show at all, there's more to it than what's on the surface if you scratch a bit deeper.
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AnnieER25
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The RSC version is much better, but yes it is much more expensive to get the rights for that version rather than the less popular MUNY version.
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ConverseSneaker
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It would be expensive though to get a flying device for the monkeys, and the special effects. Yes, it's a good choice, but it's more expensive than you think.
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centerstage08
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I talked with my director yesterday evening and we discussed The Wizard of Oz, Cinderella, Little Shop of Horrors, and Once Upon a Mattress. I was also informed about just how much damage my director did last year to the money in the account. We now have just under $700. With this known and the fact that we can borrow everything and have many set pieces that can easily be modified I found at 11:30 that we're doing The Wizard of Oz. This is also because we can invite the elementry schools and charge each student $2 and invite the middle schoolers and make couple hundred and then do 2 fund-raiser and ask for a grant and we can do Once Upon a Mattress or Little Shop. So I depending on how much we raise will decide which of those two shows we'll do.
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wicked_boy
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| pish123c wrote: | ITW is by no means comparable to The Wizard of Oz.
But that's another topic for another day. I'll let the malicious Sondheimists talk to you about that one. |
It's another day, how is Oz for kids and ITW not?
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Salome
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ITW concerns adult situations like sex, poverty,cheating spuuses,murder,revenge and moving on after death.
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wicked_boy
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The Wizard of Oz is all about wanting a home, power, revenge, needing soemthing you already have, setting out to achieve something.
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Salome
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its a parable. its not deep and complex like ITW.
you wont find a character so human and well developed and complex like Baker's Wife in Wizard of OZ.
Oz is a script of stereotypes. fairy tale characters. ITW takes fairy tale characters and makes them human,intreicate and complex.
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wicked_boy
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Not every show needs to be analyzed (must learn to spell that word).
ITW is almost like two separate story's. You can have Act 1 and Act 2.
Oz is more flowing and most people in the entire world know Oz.
Do you like it though?
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ConverseSneaker
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Wicked_boy, I think you spelled it right. ANYWAYS, the question asked here orginally is production costs. Does anyone have answers or ideas about that?
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pish123c
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| wicked_boy wrote: | Not every show needs to be analyzed (must learn to spell that word).
ITW is almost like two separate story's. You can have Act 1 and Act 2.
Oz is more flowing and most people in the entire world know Oz.
Do you like it though? |
Most of the point of ITW is that it analyzes fairy-tale esque characters, though. So in that case, yes it does need to be analyzed. Most good shows do.
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Luc
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Trust me, Mat, no matter what you do, he just won't catch on very quickly... PM time.
Anyways... back to Oz then...
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Robinflamingo
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| ConverseSneaker wrote: | | It would be expensive though to get a flying device for the monkeys, and the special effects. Yes, it's a good choice, but it's more expensive than you think. |
I've done two perfectly credibly, enjoyable and quality productions without flying anyone. It's called suspension of disbelief, or "acting."
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centerstage08
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I'm glad to hear someone did it without flying because I know that we would never get that cleared with the school board because of liability and such. Plus as I said before we are very tight on money and have no fly space to speak of in our auditorium...so this would be way too hard.
on to good news for me...my friend Kim who was my biggest known compitition for Dorothy(which my mom has always wanted me to play and she's have a tough time with stuff right now...so I would love to get it for her and I would also like it) will be out of town the week of our show so she has offered to help me practice for auditions and be like my own personal "vocal-coach. She's an amazing singer and has helped me before so I know this will give me an every better boost above most of the other girls.
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Kaaatrina
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| Robinflamingo wrote: | | ConverseSneaker wrote: | | It would be expensive though to get a flying device for the monkeys, and the special effects. Yes, it's a good choice, but it's more expensive than you think. |
I've done two perfectly credibly, enjoyable and quality productions without flying anyone. It's called suspension of disbelief, or "acting."
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I've seen one without flying. It was still believable. 
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Salome
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[quote="wicked_boy"]Not every show needs to be analyzed (must learn to spell that word).
ITW is almost like two separate story's. You can have Act 1 and Act 2.
quote]
ITW is not almost like 2 seperates shows its a solid flowing piece.
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wicked_boy
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[quote="Salome"] | wicked_boy wrote: | Not every show needs to be analyzed (must learn to spell that word).
ITW is almost like two separate story's. You can have Act 1 and Act 2.
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ITW is not almost like 2 seperates shows its a solid flowing piece. |
You can easily separate it into two story's.
You've got the getting the clock and objects part and then the part to overcome the giant. They just work good together.
| Luc wrote: | Trust me, Mat, no matter what you do, he just won't catch on very quickly... PM time.
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Well done, you finally realized I don't get the gist of things that quickly. If you know that, maybe you could like make your posts more clear.
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Matthew
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No. ITW is one piece. The Jr. Version is crap.
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wicked_boy
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Ok, "because Matthew is always right."
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Luc
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Matthew's not always right. No one is always right. But in this case, Matthew is. It's common sense.
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wicked_boy
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Yeah, what I'm saying it ITW can be two different story's that flow good separately or together. Whether they are fun or crap in your opinion.
The Wizard of Oz, you can't have two different story's because the entire show is based on wanting / doing the same thing. You could somehow like, have the Witch's melting etc separate but that only makes like 20 mins of the show.
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centerstage08
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I love how far off topic this has gotten. From good point and bad points of TWoO to if ITW can work as two stories. That is why I love this place.
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wicked_boy
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My mind:
The Wizard of Oz > Into the Woods.
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pish123c
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| wicked_boy wrote: | My mind:
The Wizard of Oz > Into the Woods. |
Then your scope of shows you enjoy must be very limited. Not to be mean, and I'm no expert on theatre myself...But, wow.
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wicked_boy
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Not limited. I just prefer shows that are classed as "spectaculars" over shows that are complicated scores blah blah.
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pish123c
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But TWoO is hardly a spectacle, very rarely is done with super high budgets. And ITW has just as much spectacle if not much more. It isn't just a black and white Sondheim score like you may think it is. Like someone said previously, it's a piece. One that I think even casual theatre fans really enjoy. That's part of its appeal.
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wicked_boy
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Oz can only work good if it's a proffesional show. Otherwise, the score and script is really good but the sets and singing will let it down.
It sooooo easy just to have the usual Oz set. To have a good Oz set, you need to think outside the box.
But I'd rather see Oz than ITW any day.
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Salome
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Oz works quite well in non pro theatres.
and if you tihnk Oz is better than ITW then you are truely a lost cause. and I thought you were actually seeingt he light. oh well.
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wicked_boy
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I am seeing the light lol. I'm starting to investigate more musicals.
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bean_C4U
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I'm auditioning for Oz later this month. I love the show and it means so much to me.
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centerstage08
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Good luck at auditions the bean! My audition is Tuesday. I wish I wasn't sick but I think everyone will still be able to tell I am resonably talented even tho I have a sore throat like no other.
I think I am singing over the rainbow because that is what the director wants. But I might bring along something else and try and sing both. Since our audition process isn't very strict I think I may be able to. Tho I have no clue what else I am bringing.
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Luc
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[quot="wicked_boy"]My mind:
The Wizard of Oz > Into the Woods.[/quote]
Time for a quote from The Full Monty...
| "The Goods" from The Full Monty wrote: | | Holy g**-damn f***ing sh**..... |
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