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the Tin Manhi guys
does anyone know how Bauq turns into the Tin Man so fast in front of the audience?
The answer is probably simple, but maybe im just slow'
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Trevor
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It's Boq.
And it's called a double. Pretty obvious, I think.
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Baker
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Yeah, it's not difficult. He's in the wheelchair and Elphaba rolls him to a position so he's facing away from the audience. There's a curtain onstage at that point, so Boq slips off behind the curtain and the Tin Man slips into the chair.
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jimbothecrab
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I don't remember. I saw the musical last year and remember the scene just dont remember how it happened. I'm seeing it in April though so my memory will be refreshed.
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wls250
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Yep, its a double, so theres someone that looks similar as the tin man, that mimes the words, and the actor playing boq behind the curtain or wardrobe or whever it may be, even on recording says the part/lines
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theatre_grl
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its obvious?  i would have had no idea if you asked me.
maybe i just never think about these things. usually i just try to enjoy the show w/o thinking of the technical stuff (though i probably will go mad thinking about the trick at the end of poto...)
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happyguava
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| theatre_grl wrote: | | (though i probably will go mad thinking about the trick at the end of poto...) |
Oooh ooh!! I used to know how they did that!! Then I forgot.
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DramaRobin2002
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| trevorsanderson wrote: | It's Boq.
And it's called a double. Pretty obvious, I think. |
It's not all that obvious when you don't know the trick. Afterwards, it is pretty easy to tell.
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theatre_grl
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| happyguava wrote: | | theatre_grl wrote: | | (though i probably will go mad thinking about the trick at the end of poto...) |
Oooh ooh!! I used to know how they did that!! Then I forgot. |
 thats helpful
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Sweeney Hyde
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Speaking of changing on stage, do they do the same thing for Into the Woods with the Witch?
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Baker
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| Sweeney Hyde wrote: | | Speaking of changing on stage, do they do the same thing for Into the Woods with the Witch? |
That's been discussed backwards and forwards in the ITW forum... there's usually a double for the ugly Witch throughout the scene where Milky White is revived and milks, then she runs back into the fog and Bernadette comes out. For the movie though, they taped the Milky White scene with Bernadette without an audience there and added it in separately, so it would look like it's Bernadette the whole time.
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ConverseSneaker
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| Baker wrote: | | Sweeney Hyde wrote: | | Speaking of changing on stage, do they do the same thing for Into the Woods with the Witch? |
That's been discussed backwards and forwards in the ITW forum... there's usually a double for the ugly Witch throughout the scene where Milky White is revived and milks, then she runs back into the fog and Bernadette comes out. For the movie though, they taped the Milky White scene with Bernadette without an audience there and added it in separately, so it would look like it's Bernadette the whole time. |
Really? Then who orginally played the ugly Witch in the show?
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Luc
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^^ That makes me so sad!! I thought it was just amaaaazing makeup changes. 
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Baker
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I don't know if she was ever credited, but a lot of people believe it was the girl who played Snow White.
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The Very Angry Woman
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| Sweeney Hyde wrote: | | Speaking of changing on stage, do they do the same thing for Into the Woods with the Witch? |
They do the same thing for the Beast's transformation, too. It's a Beast double who fights Gaston.
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Pounce
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What about Boq's/Tin Man's later appearance in the show? I think it's during "March of the Witch Hunters". Do they still use a double or does the actor go through makeup?
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Luc
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I believe he goes through makeup and continues to play his role for the rest of the show. They probably just use an ensemble member for the double. 
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SapphireNight
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Nope, thats the Boq actor. Its clever, because that first scene, after the transformation, you dont see the Tin Man very clearly- hes moving, and hes normally got his side (even back) to the audience. During MOTWH, he's just in one place, at the front, near the audience, shouting out several lines.
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ConverseSneaker
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| The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | Sweeney Hyde wrote: | | Speaking of changing on stage, do they do the same thing for Into the Woods with the Witch? |
They do the same thing for the Beast's transformation, too. It's a Beast double who fights Gaston. |
How sad, we've been doing 1 person for both transformation quite easily and they use a double. 
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Baker
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| ConverseSneaker wrote: | | How sad, we've been doing 1 person for both transformation quite easily and they use a double. |
Do you have as intense make up as they do on Broadway?
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broadwaybelle22
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| The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | Sweeney Hyde wrote: | | Speaking of changing on stage, do they do the same thing for Into the Woods with the Witch? |
They do the same thing for the Beast's transformation, too. It's a Beast double who fights Gaston. |
How do they do that with the beast when he has to sing in the transformation? Is that his double singing too?
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ConverseSneaker
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| Baker wrote: | | ConverseSneaker wrote: | | How sad, we've been doing 1 person for both transformation quite easily and they use a double. |
Do you have as intense make up as they do on Broadway? |
We pulled all of the face stuff on the Witch off before, she never showed her face to the audience, and during the transformation she pulled off her rubber fingers. We haven't decided on how to do the Beast's transformation yet, but we are clear on the fact of not using a double.
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Baker
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| ConverseSneaker wrote: | | We pulled all of the face stuff on the Witch off before, she never showed her face to the audience, and during the transformation she pulled off her rubber fingers. We haven't decided on how to do the Beast's transformation yet, but we are clear on the fact of not using a double. |
Ah, I thought you meant that you didn't use a double for the Beast transformation...
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Luc
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| Quote: | | Ah, I thought you meant that you didn't use a double for the Beast transformation... |
...that is what she means. Read the last sentence of her last post once more.
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Baker
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| musikal_geek wrote: | | ...that is what she means. Read the last sentence of her last post once more. |
No, she said they were planning on doing the Beast with one person and that they were already doing the Witch with one person... she couldn't have meant the Beast because she said that they were already doing the transformation well.
A technicality of tenses. =P
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The Very Angry Woman
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| broadwaybelle22 wrote: | | The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | Sweeney Hyde wrote: | | Speaking of changing on stage, do they do the same thing for Into the Woods with the Witch? |
They do the same thing for the Beast's transformation, too. It's a Beast double who fights Gaston. |
How do they do that with the beast when he has to sing in the transformation? Is that his double singing too? |
AFAIK that's recorded.
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Luc
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| The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | broadwaybelle22 wrote: | | The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | Sweeney Hyde wrote: | | Speaking of changing on stage, do they do the same thing for Into the Woods with the Witch? |
They do the same thing for the Beast's transformation, too. It's a Beast double who fights Gaston. |
How do they do that with the beast when he has to sing in the transformation? Is that his double singing too? |
AFAIK that's recorded. |
What does AFAIK mean?
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ConverseSneaker
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| Baker wrote: | | musikal_geek wrote: | | ...that is what she means. Read the last sentence of her last post once more. |
No, she said they were planning on doing the Beast with one person and that they were already doing the Witch with one person... she couldn't have meant the Beast because she said that they were already doing the transformation well.
A technicality of tenses. =P |
We did ITW last year. As for Beast, we have no one else to play the double. So I'd assume lots of smoke and lights, Belle and Beast pulls off the beast parts and ta da!
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ConverseSneaker
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To be honest, I thought the latex(it is made of latex, right?) was attatched to the cape, and when she goes from ugly to pretty, she just slips herself out of it, flattens it agaist her hood, pulls it off dramatically and ta-da!
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