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| jarrod001 |
TAYLOR HICKS?!??!!?!http://www.playbill.com/news/article/117786.htmlEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW I loathe that stupid ass. |
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| Gwen |
...is it known who he's going to play? 
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| Salome |
I like taylor hicks..but i cant read the article...playbill is blocked at work. what show? | ||||||
| jazzygirlsings |
He's going to be Teen Angel in Grease... | ||||||
| Salome |
actually thats a good role for him. | ||||||
| sopranodespair |
It's like all American Idol contestants go to Brodway. 
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| Salome |
Hicks is an exception thoug.h he can sing like hell plus he has a good look for broadway. I dont know if he could act..but as Teen Angel he just needs to play the schtick and sing it up.
It makes laot more sense than Usher in Chicago or justin Guarini in Spamalot. |
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| LookBehindTheFacade |
Ugh. I didn't like Taylor Hicks. At all. | ||||||
| Kiwi |
Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that these people who do American Idol end up getting parts on Broadway, which most of us have been and will continue to work our butts off to aspire to? I know that producers want to draw in crowds with names that a lot of people know, but it's just kind of disheartening if you ask me. | ||||||
| Trevor reincarnate |
American Idol people didn't work their butts off to get where they are? That seems rather ignorant of you.
Don't hate. It makes you ugly. |
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| Kiwi |
Did I say that? No. I just didn't word it correctly, I suppose. I'm sure most of the people on American Idol don't dream of being on Broadway, but rather being pop stars, and focus on vocal ability and not on the musical theatre package that "unknowns" have to have if they want to make it anywhere near Broadway. Broadway is not what American Idol is a contest for. In fact, I knew someone who tried out for American Idol and was denied solely because his voice was too Broadway-oriented. | ||||||
| Trevor reincarnate |
I think every single member of MdN probably has a friend who was turned away from AI for having a Broadway voice.
Nothing special. I like seeing AI contestants on Broadway. |
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| star2ballie |
I think it's smart casting, I agree with everything Dawn said.
And as for AI this year, I hope Syesha appears on B'way sometime soon. I don't know in what yet...but something. |
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| Kiwi |
Again, didn't say I was special, at all. Stop putting words in my mouth. I was making the point that American Idol is not a Broadway-oriented competition, in fact, quite the opposite. So why are they putting these people on Broadway when one of their qualifications for getting far in the competition is not being suited for Broadway? |
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| mastachen |
1) Not being suited for Broadway isn't a qualification for American Idol. 2) American Idol isn't putting their winners on Broadway. Producers from Broadway shows go out and ask certain performers if they could come in and sing/audition for a part, or at least that's how Clay described his audition process. |
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| Kiwi |
1. The fact that numerous people have been turned down by American Idol for the sole reason that their voice is too Broadway-oriented shows that your voice cannot be fit for Broadway if you're on American Idol.
2. I wasn't saying "they" meant the American Idol people. |
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| mastachen |
No it doesn't. There's no "either or" where your voice is either Broadway oriented, or else it's American Idol oriented. They can be half and half. lol Just because they win doesn't mean their voice can't carry over to Broadway. Look at Tamyra Gray and Diane DeGarmo. They were (are) successful (and Fantasia, but I don't like her) when they were on Broadway. Jennifer Hudson, too. Ok someone else can probably get this point across better than I can.
Then who were you referring to? Nothing in your post indicated otherwise. |
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| Mistress |
I can't say anything to either argument as I don't normally watch AI, but I did notice that an AI finalist and Soutn-African Idol winner were both cast in the Rent tour...the AI guy is Collins and the other due, Hans Winkler, I thinks, is Roger...I didn't see it, so I can't say how they were, though I imagine that vocally, they were at least half-way decent. | ||||||
| Kiwi |
I was referring to whoever it is who is responsible for them getting on broadway, be it a producer or casting director or whatever. My post never indicated anything toward the ones in charge of American Idol, either.
But you're right, there are those who can go to Broadway from American Idol and do fine. However, the competition was made for pop-style voices, and if your voice is too well fit for Broadway and not pop singing you are generally not even admitted into the competition. As Trevor said, most of the people on MdN know someone who has been turned down by American Idol because they have a Broadway voice. To act on Broadway is a great honor, and in my idealistic mind I think that leads in Broadway shows should go to people who care about acting and the theatre, not to someone who just gets the job as a result of becoming famous. Also, just because someone can sing a role doesn't mean they can act it, and it takes both to make a good performance in a musical. |
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| Mungojerrie_rt |
What on earth is a "Broadway orientated voice"? Good singing is good singing. I don't see how there can be a difference. | ||||||
| Kiwi |
If people are vocally trained, there voice becomes oriented to the style they are trained in. Opera singers have different styles of voice than pop singers. I have a hard time singing more pop-style and classical songs compared to Broadway style songs. I am capable of singing those styles, but it's easiest for me in a Broadway style. My voice is Broadway oriented. Singers on American Idol generally have pop oriented voices. I'm sure many of them are capable of singing Broadway, but they are most comfortable singing pop songs. | ||||||
| Bristian |
I saw it... the guy who played Roger acted well-ish but wasn't an explosive singer like Roger needed. The guy who played Collins was an awesome singer and totally did a different take with the reprise of I'll Cover You but he could not act at all. He literally was a distraction when he acted. About Taylor Hicks... I didn't like him on Idol, I thought he wasn't that great of a singer, but he was decent. I liked Katherine McPhee much better though. I think Taylor Hicks will be good for the role. My take on the whole situation with Idol getting on Broadway... If you had connections and got a call to audition for a show or be in a show without auditioning, wouldn't you? Just because these people have connections with those on Broadway or connections with people who have connections on Broadway doesn't mean that they will be any better or worse than the "unknown" who is trying to make it big. |
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| Kragey |
I think Taylor Hicks has a unique voice, and I really like it. I agree with Salome; I probably wouldn't like him in any other part, but that role is fine.
And even if people are trained in one specific sort of vocal style, they can still fit a role. Tarja rocked a metal band and classically-trained Charlotte Church made the switch over in to pop music. |
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| Patrick |
Umm....Broadway Oriented? That's a ridiculous term. Can the same person play Billy Bigelow, the Baker, Frank-N-Furter, Henry Higgins, Marius, Quixote, Bobby, Phantom, and Seymour Mushnik?
Possibly, but they would pretty much have to sound different to play each role even though each is within a baritonal G2-Ab4 Range. There is no one "Broadway Oriented" type of voice. Pop singers could easily be integrated into shows like RENT and Grease...vocally anyway. Acting may not be so easy for them but who knows? |
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| Trevor reincarnate |
Seymour Krelborne Just... letting you know... Kiwi is awfully silly. I'm not even bothering reading her posts in this thread anymore. Nobody seems to agree with her anyway... |
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| Kiwi |
I appreciate your maturity, Trevor.
But since I do seem to be alone here, I resign my argument. I still find the situation annoying, however. Maybe it's just because I've never been into American Idol to begin with. |
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| Trevor reincarnate |
I never claimed to be mature. Don't put words in my mouth. | ||||||
| Kiwi |
That would be clever if I actually had put words in your mouth, but I didn't. | ||||||
| Trevor reincarnate |
Neither did I. | ||||||
| Kiwi |
This whole argument is becoming unnecessary. If you just can't help but continue, take it to pm. But I'm done with it here. | ||||||
| Patrick |
----, you're right, I don't know why I did that.... |
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| Kragey |
Crisis averted. |
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| Trevor reincarnate |
Maybe because he gets adopted by Mr. Mushnik? |
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| ConverseSneaker |
While I generally hate that producers put stars in over actors who actually need the job to bring in tickets, this is actually a good role to do that for. It's a small part with a song and that's it. It will bring in fans and money, but it won't take away from the quality of the show or the other actors. | ||||||
| star2ballie |
Agree. And, if you have a truly good voice and good technique, you should be able to "switch styles" effortlessly. I firmly believe that only classically trained voice teachers should teach, because if you get that "classical" foundation, you can do anything. I just don't buy the "everyone has one good style" junk. Take Audra MacDonald. She can belt with the best of them and turn around and bust out some opera like nobody's business. It's because she has a wonderful classical foundation and technique for singing. Just a pet peeve. |
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| Trevor reincarnate |
You're right. The casting process of Grease has been so traditional for this revival. Good thing they're not ruining the quality of such an amazing show by hiring Taylor Hicks as anything other than Teen Angel. |
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| Mungojerrie_rt |
I suppose what it means is that all of the pop singers who can't switch style probably can't do it because they can't actually sing. Of course, we all aready new that. 
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| Salome |
just compare patti lupone's eva peron to madonnas.
Patti not only embodies the role and gives it edge but she can belt out all the right notes. madonna is lackluster in the passion department and had alot of the score adapted so she could sing it. |
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| Mistress |
Woah woah woah...Salome did I just here you say something positive about Patti Lupone?  ...are you feeling alright?
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| Salome |
Habve you not noticed there are 2 patti lupones?
the patti of Evita,Cardle WillRock,and Anything Goes and the "look at me i'm patti of Sunset,sweeney todd, and her concert acts. Patti can be a wonderful actress if she tries most of the time today she doesnt try. |
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| ConverseSneaker |
Which category does Mama Rose fall in? And did Trevor just say that I was right? What a thread this is turning out to be! |
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| Robinflamingo |
I had a thought about Syesha since she started out looking like a street urchin, and ended up a glamour girl - What about Applause or A Star is Born? | ||||||
| Trevor reincarnate |
Sarcastically. I didn't know we've had disagreements in the past? |
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| ConverseSneaker |
No, no, I was just suprised. I wasn't expecting it after a day of having people being disagreeable to have you agree with me on something. |