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| kitty17794 |
Tarzan to close in July...I've known this for a bit (and have hinted to it in prior posts) but can now officially say...Tarzan is (unforunately. YES unforunately!) closing in July. http://www.broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=19485 This is very depressing to me. For several reasons. One, because I LOVE the cast recording, think its amazing, and just...great cast, great music. Two, they closed Tarzan Rocks down for this. It better stay up. Haha. Three, because I had REALLY wanted to see it. And four, because TLM could SO go there and leave Beauty alone. Argh. But what I don't understand is they sit there and say 'oh, the cast recording is on billboard' and oh, 'people love it' and yet they still close it. It's disgusting. I'm very disappointed. Big condolances to the AMAZING cast! |
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| Sweeney Hyde |
YAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!!
What a great way to start the day!! |
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| ILoveToSing2010 |
YAY!!! I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!! 
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| musikal_geek |
Re: Tarzan to close in July...
Because people buy the cast recording to try it out. Then they realize how much money they just wasted so they don't go buy tickets. The show is closing because people stopped buying tickets, obviously. It isn't based on how well the OBCR is selling. But, I have one last comment. YAY!!!!!! *happy dance* 
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| kitty17794 |
Re: Tarzan to close in July...
Not EVERYONE felt that way you know. I know quite a few people, including myself, who love the soundtrack and listen to it all the time... its a matter of preference, I suppose. I LOVE Disney, so of course I love this show. Its got a FANTASTIC cast and amazing music. |
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| pish123c |
More people hated the show than loved it I'm afraid.
I've not listened to the music, or seen clips of it online, so I really can't judge, I just heard from a lot of people it was really cheap-looking and stupid. |
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| musikal_geek |
Re: Tarzan to close in July...
The soundtrack IS awesome... I listen to it daily. But the cast recording is really bad. Some of the cast is good, I'll admit. But the first time I listened to it, I could have sworn Tarzan was being played by a girl, no jokes. I honestly thought it was a woman singing in the opening number..... nope! It was Strickland. |
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| wicked_boy |
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| musikal_geek |
Oh no, not you too! |
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| wicked_boy |
I was upset. But I've decided. The show is crap. Disney can do soooo much better, I mean look at the set design, a blow up bouncy castle with rubber vines and a few fly rigs. If any of you have ever saw the Tarzan Encounter in Disney Paris, don't you think the set for that is way better? |
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| musikal_geek |
That's mah boy! 
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| Lady Jemima |
Oh no! I would have enjoyed seeing it. Wow, that's really disappointing. Thankfully most Broadway shows havn't been completely erased from history...if you know what I mean. 
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| wicked_boy |
You made me see the true light of Tarzan. |
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| musikal_geek |
*Superman voice*
LUC HAS SHOWN THE LIGHT ONCE AGAIN! *soars away* |
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| wicked_boy |
I've just watched some bootleg of the opening number and it was sh*t. There is no dancing, nothing to bring the music alive, nothing! Just monkey people swinging.
If you listen the the OBC, you imagine there being dancing, flying, fun, during the opening number. |
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| musikal_geek |
^Agreed.
Like, when Tarzan's parents are walking down the backdrop at a 90-degree angle... it looks SO bad (saw this on the disney site). |
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| wicked_boy |
^Yep. And the spider scene, no! | ||||||||||||||||
| musikal_geek |
Well, that's why they cut it. 
But look at the pictures of any given character in the air at any given time... it is so poorly covered. Back to the opening, when they are walking at a 90 degree angle, the ropes are probably a good three inches in diameter. I realize that safety is obviously number one, and it's a very dangerous stunt, but if you're going to do something, make it look good. Otherwise, forget it. This is what worries me about TLM. It has HUGE potential, but after Tarzan, I'm really, really worried. |
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| wicked_boy |
Yeah, they could atleast make the safety ropes look morel ike vines.
Poor Disney Broadway, they will only be left with Lion King and Mary on Boradway and Lion King in London. |
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| musikal_geek |
^And The Little Mermaid on Broadway. | ||||||||||||||||
| wicked_boy |
Oh yeah! That could be good, if they do it properly. |
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| kitty17794 |
...you thought that looked BAD? ....yea. Okay.  It looked amazing. Very creative.
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| musikal_geek |
^The rope was CRAZY thick. VERY fake.
I agree with w_b, they should have at least made it look like a vine or something, because then it wouldn't look so out-of-place and really stupid. |
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| RainbowJude |
ArtifaceThe whole point of the design was to see all the strings, as it were. It's supposed to be obvious and, therefore, "fake". It's not a great creative decision - and of course, Tarzan seems to be plagued by several bad creative decisions - but it isn't just because they couldn't make the wires thinner or because they couldn't make them look like vines.Later days David |
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| musikal_geek |
What kind of decision is that? That's so retarded!
I wonder how THAT conversation went... Okay, for the flying scenes and any scenes that the characters aren't on the ground, we should try out best to make it look like there are no ropes - make it look as real as possible. But why would we do that if we could save money by making it look fake and amateur? Good idea! We're Disney for goodness sakes, and we don't have any money to spend! So, the fake look it is! Hm. And yes, I do realize that I'm over-exaggerating. 
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| pish123c |
Re: Artiface
I don't see how it makes sense to WANT to have the strings showing. Why would you want something like that to be obvious in a show like that? That would be like the cherry picker thing in "Defying Gravity" in Wicked just being completely revealed. It just takes away the magic. |
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| musikal_geek |
^Or the transformation in Beauty and the Beast.
Like, having the Beast walk off and the Prince walk on... it would make absolutely no sense! The whole climax of the show is when he transforms, so it would be stupid to make it look fake. The whole point of Tarzan is that they are apes who swing around in the jungle... so why not make it look like that? They clearly have the money. |
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| wicked_boy |
Don't be stupid, Disney have no money at all.
Also I know this is off topic, but I think the cherry picker in Defying Gravity is good as it's different to the usual Peter Pan flying. |
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| RainbowJude |
Re: Artiface
Which clearly underlines the fact that it was a creative choice. Come on, it obviously wasn't a financial one! And it would seem that Disney, having previously appropriated theatrical elements that are non-traditional to the musical form in The Lion King (courtesy of the amazing Julie Taymor), thought that this kind of approach might work in Tarzan too, this time drawing upon elements of performance art and circus as seen in the work of Pichón Baldinu. This is also director Bob Crowley's first such assignment on a Broadway musical, even though he has an immense amount of experience as a designer. In the hands of a stronger director and/or dramaturg, maybe Tarzan could have been more satisfying - both visually and dramatically - but I don't think the pieces ever come together quite in the way they should. Later days David |
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| DONT.LOOK.BACK |
ummm.. about the whole string thing thats obviously the way the wanted it to go i mean everyone knows its people but really thats not a big deal. the fact the tarzan closed didnt have to do with it not selling it had other reasons so everyone knows. | ||||||||||||||||
| musikal_geek |
Yeah, actually, that was the reason. Check old "Broadway Grosses" on broadway.com... the facts are there. People stopped buying tickets because it really wasn't all that good of a show. |
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| DONT.LOOK.BACK |
ok u know what no its not i know people who are in and ok?? i can get them to come u wanna know why. it was because 1. mary poppins or little mermaid spent too much money and they over budgeted so other shows suffer 2. since they are anederlander theatre something to do with that 3. no1 really knows for sure disney didnt let out ne info |
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| pish123c |
Uh, he gave you hard facts. Tickets were not selling. If you do a simple search and go on a website, it is right there for you. And you might want to stop while you're ahead. N00bs like you get a pretty bad reputation around here. It's in your best interest to just stop and think about what Luc was saying. |
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| DONT.LOOK.BACK |
ok i know what im saying if u ask ne1 nobody knows 4 sure and yes i have talked to josh (tarzan) |
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| pish123c |
Really, is it so hard to type out "you" and "anyone" and "for"? God forbid you have to type out a few extra letters... 
And while you say you know Josh, whether that may or may not be true, the cold hard facts are out there that ticket sales just were not healthy. |
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| DONT.LOOK.BACK |
yes believe me or not i have met josh and talked to him and i know people who are very good friends with him and they tell me i also have talked to dylan riley snyder and im not denying the fact that tickets may not be good but thats not the only reason something is behind that that ok. and srry if my ne1's and 4's bother u. |
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| pish123c |
Whatever. This isn't going anywhere, I'll just be nice and let you have your fake-victory. |
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| DONT.LOOK.BACK |
yea "fake"victory w/e i dont need to prove nething to u. im just trying to to inform u of something im srry if im a noob and im just suppose to come on here and agree with all of u cause im not gonna do that. |
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| musikal_geek |
DONT.LOOK.BACK, answer me this.
Go look at the ticket sales for the last few months of the show (besides closing week). Now tell me that they were good ticket sales. I'm not telling you that the only reason they closed is ticket sales. But it sure is a big factor. If they were making millions every week, they would not have closed the show. You said they closed because they were running out of money - If ticket sales were going strong, they wouldn't be short of money. See what I'm saying? |
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| DONT.LOOK.BACK |
yes but that isnt only why something is behind it if that was the whole reason then diwney would have said no1 is saying nething something is up oh and i have a name.. jade. |
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| pish123c |
God you act like it's some huge scandel behind the closing of Tarzan. If you know all these broadway actors, whats the reason then? Hmmmm? |
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| musikal_geek |
Dearest Jade, Could you please rewrite that using proper grammar? I honestly don't understand what that says. I'm really not trying to be a bully or anything here... I just cannot understand it. Consider using capital letters and necessary punctuation. I just can't read that. |
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| RainbowJude |
Too much to resist....Intrigued by the little argument in this thread about attendance at Tarzan, I went and had a glance at the lists of Broadway grosses. Now I don't think ticket sales are as dire as Luc seems to think they are - they are certainly better than those of, for example, Grey Gardens even if they aren't the consistent highs of, for example, The Lion King - but I'm pretty sure that they aren't as high or as consistent as Disney would like either.I looked at the sales over a three months - 23 weeks - and the sales broke down as follows: 90%+ = 5 weeks 80%+ = 6 weeks 70%+ = 9 weeks 60%+ = 3 weeks During this period, the highest attendance was 98.2% and the lowest was 68.3%. Looking at two weeks per month for the rest of the run, it did top that (and indeed the figures were more often better than worse), while the lowest figure I saw was 66.5%. Make what you want of that, I guess. I thought it would be interesting to see what the empirical data revealed. Later days David |
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| Eponine93 |
David, the difference between Grey Gardens and Tarzan was that Grey Gardens got great reviews, ten Tony nominations and the support of regular, NY theatre-goers while Tarzan got zero Tony noms (despite the fact it debuted in the very weak '06 season) and in the eyes of NY-theatre regulars, had no artistic appeal. | ||||||||||||||||
| RainbowJude |
I'm not sure what the point of your post is, but I don't think it has anything to do with mine. I'm quite capable of distinguishing critical and commercial issues from production to production but that wasn't the point of my post, nor is it particularly relevant to the context of the discussion that was going on between Luc, Pish (?) and Jade above. You're opening up a whole separate set of issues that, while important in its own right, is only obliquely relevant to the topic under discussion. Later days David |
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| DONT.LOOK.BACK |
thanku ofr posting those tickets sales i guess. | ||||||||||||||||
| musikal_geek |
You make me giggle. |
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| wicked_boy |
Oh my god.
Tarzan went like two weeks ago and I didn't even realise. |
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| Broadway_Girl_For_life |
Ok for all of you ppl who were happy that TARZAN closed......---- you, I was very personal with the cast, so they told me some reasons why it closeds, Mary Poppins and Little mermaid were overbugeting, there were some other ones but i forgot what they were. Ok how could you not like TARZAN??? it was amazing. You guys must not know what broadway is since you thought TARZAN was horrible, for the time that it was on Broadway all the ppl that i knew that saw it LOVED it. | ||||||||||||||||
| musikal_geek |
You have got to be kidding me. "F*** you to all of the people who didn't like Tarzan??" Are you out of your mind?? I'm not even talking about the quality of the show here. I'm talking about the language you are using towards other users because they don't share your opinion. That is an extremely rediculous thing to say, and an apology is definitely in order. GROW UP. |
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| mastachen |
I don't usually bring threads back from the dead, but somehow this morning, I felt compelled to read this thread, and I got a good laugh.
And if broadway_girl_for_life or Jade ever comes back to see this: Jade, talking to Josh Strickland and knowing people who are close to him doesn't make you special. I've met and talked to bigger stars and their friends. Knowing Disney, I'm pretty sure Mary Poppins and Little Mermaid weren't overbudgeting because a) it's Disney b) most of Mary Poppins probably came out of CamMack's endless pockets. If Disney or the cast ever said that, it's probably just a cover for horrible ticket sales. Just like Mandy Bruno of Les Mis said that playing the role of Eponine stressed out her voice and tired her when in reality, she got fired cuz she sucked. And why would you cuss someone out for not liking the show? Do you think that makes you cool and mature and classy? I can't tell you what I think that makes you b/c that'll get me banned. kthxbii I want to add that I never knew why Tarzan was made into a stage show. I found the movie deathly boring, and I'm not surprised that it did not get nominated for any Tonys. |
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| wicked_boy |
I still love the cast recording, pitty it didn't look too good on stage.
I saw a clip on youtube of the opening and I thought it was DREADFUL! |