[Tumnus1031]

I've been told that he sings up to a high G, which would be, if I'm not mistaken, G4...but, anyway, I've listened to the whole album and I don't think I've heard him actually sing a G, at least in a solo. Is it one of those things where he's written to sing a G in the ensemble numbers (like Skid Row or the Finale)? And if he doesn't sing that high, what IS his highest note?

[DaddyDiesel]

I think he actually goes up to that high G in Feed me. BUt I could be mistaken.

[Vichysois]

^ That's where it comes in. The line "If you want a rationale, it isn't very hard to see" toward the end is all over high G. I believe so is the word "enough" in "You need blood and he's got more than enough."

That song's also got the optional high A (A4) for the "I don't know" part.

Other than that, he's easy mid-upper baritone stuff.

[Tumnus1031]

Thanks, guys.

Wait...is middle C C4 or C3? Because I've seen it written both ways...

[Vichysois]

It varies sometimes, but generally, C4 is designated as "middle C." Tenor C is C5, and Soprano C is C6.

If you want to think about it in terms of the accessible notes for standard human beings:

C2 is the lowest Bass voice type note, and C6 is the highest instance of the note "C" for Soprano voice type. C4 is the middlepoint of that span.

C2-------C3------C4--------C5---------C6


But sometimes musicians use the term in a relative fashion to describe the C in the middle of their particular instrument's range. But I'm not sure as to the distinction I've heard some people mention as Male Middle C and Female Middle C...

[Tumnus1031]

[Rorgg]

"high" is a relative term. For a male voice, I'd consider E4-C5 "high" (whatever). If you're talking to a bass, you'd probably consider anything from C4 up "high" (though C4 is still more simply "middle C").

I ran into some confusion last week when a pianist who's not a normal accompanist was giving pitches and when the men and women's parts were on the same staff was playing a Tenor Clef A# (A#3) as written (A#4), making it a little hard to catch when getting notes in a chord.

This is why I always used the proper tenor clef notation and they get their own line, or learn to read bass clef.

[Vichysois]

^ Yeah, that would be the most accurate. But for shorthand, "high" comes in handy when you use it on conjunction with other descriptive terms, even though it's relative.

For example, "High A" when talking about male voice will delineate A4 because the alternative A3 is a note all 3 standard male voices have, and thus wouldn't be called "high".

But I agree with you that it's all confusing with different clefs or with both male and females on the same staff.