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Official CATS Forum Cast List for July - December 2006

Okay, here's the cast list for July - December 2006. There were two ties for lead spots with the same number of votes (Rumblepurr had 14 votes each for Gus and Deut and MzGalinda had 5 votes each for Bill Bailey and Tugger), I essentially rolled a die to see which character the person would get. I allowed for only two understudies this time around to see how it goes. I will be asking some questions in another post for the next casting in January. ~MsJ

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Admetus - Gwen (Understudies) - Mixu, abbeycat
Alonzo - Mixu (Understudies) - Misto, Etcy
Bill Bailey - MzGalinda (Understudies) - Munkujerry, Alonza0
Bombalurina - *asterix* (Understudies) - Soloque, Etcy
Bustopher Jones - Kid (Understudies) - Clairevectra, ceresava
Carbucketty - Mistoteazer (Understudies) - ~Bal~, Gwen
Cassandra - Swan (Understudies) - SadieCass, littlgriz
Coricopat - Arix (Understudies) - Bill_Calhoun, Misto
Demeter - abbeycat, Soloque (Understudies) - Nemi, Claire
Electra - Nemi (Understudies) - enkeli-kitten, Belle
Etcetera - Etcy (Understudies) - MzGalinda, littlgriz
Exotica - Balurina (Understudies) - SadieCass, Jemima57
George - Alonza0 (Understudies) - Munkujerry, Rumpleteazer4760
Ghengis - darkmage (Understudies) - Moongewl, wonderjoe
Griddlebone - MadamoiselleMusicals (Understudies) - Belle, MsJellicle
Grizabella - littlgriz (Understudies) - VictoriaTWC, Balurina
Growltiger - Moongewl (Understudies) - Nick-Ko-Las Enigma, darkmage
Gus - Spatzthecat (Understudies) - Rumblepurr, VictoriaTWC
Jellylorum - MsJellicle (Understudies) - MrsJemimaMistoffelees, Natasha
Jemima - MrsJemimaMistoffelees (Understudies) - Lady Jemima, Rumpleteazer4760
Jennyanydots - Belle (Understudies) - Mumsytype, Tigress
Macavity - Smudge (Understudies) - Rum_Tum_Tigger, Moongewl
Mistoffelees - Filakatessa, Misto (Understudies) - Misto06, Mistoteazer
Mungojerrie - Mungostoffelees (Understudies) - Claire, Saffity
Munkustrap - Carbucketty (Understudies) - Drumdraper Nemi
Old Deuteronomy - Rumblepurr (Understudies) - Carbucketty, Pounce
Plato - pkitty663 (Understudies) - Saffity, Tuggers_Babe
Pouncival - ~Bal~ (Understudies) - pkitty663, Rumpleteaze
Quaxo - Jemibub, wonderjoe (Understudies) - Arix, Filakatessa
Rum Tum Tugger - Roller Boy (Understudies) - MzGalinda, Soloque
Rumpelteazer - Spanish_Rumple (Understudies) - Roxanne, Jemibub
Rumpus Cat - Pounce (Understudies) - Carbucketty, Smudge
Sillabub - Jemima57 (Understudies) - ceresava, MrsJemimaMistoffelees
Skimbleshanks - Drumdraper (Understudies) - Filakatessa, Tuggers_Babe
Tantomile - SadieCass (Understudies) - Swan, Balurina
Tumblebrutus - enkeli-kitten (Understudies) - Alonza0, Mixu
Victor - ceresava, Lady Jemima (Understudies) - Bill_Calhoun, thebeautyisClara
Victoria - Stargazer (Understudies) - Lady Jemima, Spanish_Rumple

LEAD SWINGS
Adult Male Swing - Ahdeya
Adult Female Swing - Idiosylph
Kitten Male Swing - demeter_cat 2010, SapphireNight
Kitten Female Swing - Etcetera-Kitten

Swings - Akeyla, Bombafanatic, Chimalmaht, EmmyKami, Erikonil, Jelliclaw, kotenok_gaff, London_Mungojerrie, Max, musikal_geek, Pawxx, QuaxoCoricopat, Rahlee, Slapdash, Spikesters Munk
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Sorry, I'm just too lazy today to put up the list of all my tallies. If you really want to see my final tallies, and if you have Microsoft Excel, just let me know and I'll upload it so that you can download it and view it.

Edit: I decided to just go ahead and upload the file. Here's the link to it:
http://www.msjellicle.com/temp/castingsjuly2006.xls

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Statistics:
Character with the most varied members casted as him/her: Admetus (22)
Character with the least varied members casted as him/her: Jellylorum and Jemima (10)
Member with the most castings for the same character: MsJellicle (20 - Jellylorum) followed closely by Mungostoffelees (18 - Mungojerrie)
Member with the most varied character castings: Claire (17)
Member whose cast list most matches the final list: SapphireNight (19 matches), followed closely by Chimalmaht and Balurina (17 matches) and Rumblepurr (16 matches)
Characters left blank the most: Gus (4)
Total number of cast lists submitted: 31
Total number of members names submitted: 81
MsJellicle

Questions for the next casting:

Understudies: Do you want just one understudy per character? Or two as I have done it that last two castings? Or more? (Please elaborate)

Swings: Do you like having lead swings? The lead swings are people who do not get lead roles or understudy roles. They are given the male/female kitten swing if they tended to get the most votes for kittens and the male/female adult swings if they get the most castings for adult characters.

Casting rules: Should we limit castings to people who have a certain number of posts? i.e. ~ A person cannot be cast in a role unless they have made at least 20 posts (random number). If so, what should the number be?
I've been making it so that people can have only one lead character and only two understudy parts (i.e.~ I can have Jellylorum as a lead character and Demeter and Griddlebone as understudies, but I cannnot add Sillabub as an understudy because I already have two understudies.) Do we want to make any changes to that? Do we want only one understudy per character? Or do we want to make it so that those who get lead roles don't get any understudy roles?

Cast list: Are you happy with it? Is it too long? Or just fine as is?
Alonza0

First, before I answer any questions, I just want to say *SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE* Yes! I love George, I'm so glad I got him!

Anyways, questions.

Understudies: I think that just anyone who comes in second should have an understudy role, regardless of whether they got a lead role or not. Ex. Demeter's gets the lead with 10 votes, but Jemima, Jellylorum and Jennyanydots all get understudy since all three have eight votes.

Swings: That's a great idea. But why not give them names? From other productions perhaps? Hespira for the Adult Female Swing, Summer for the Kitten Female Swing, Asparagus for the Adult Male Swing and Grumbuskin for the Kitten Male Swing? Just a suggestion and the names were just the first I could think of.

Casting Rules: I will fight you all the way for this limit. In January I had only been there a few weeks. I had made a lot of posts trying to get myself noticed, and I would have been very upset had I been barred from voting anyway. Just because someone's been here a short while doesn't mean they havn't read a lot. And just because they havn't posted a lot doesn't mean they don't know the members. I really hate that idea.

Cast List: I think it's fine. I had a hard time finding characters for all the members. Could we add a character? I was thinking Young Grizabella. The musical gives us a pretty good description of who she is, after all. Just an idea, suggested because I didn't have enough characters.
Nemi

Assuming I can reply here...

Thanks to everyone for making this casting a great experience, as always. I'm very proud to be Electra once again, and was even more excited to see the characters I've ended up understudying. Thanks for voting me.

Answering MsJ's questions...

Questions for the next casting:

Understudies:
I think the understudy system is great. Allowing two understudies per character works well, I think. I have nothing to complain about regarding it.

Swings:
I'm not all about the "lead swings", and think we may be better just keeping the swings as a group. We already have so many actual characters that I think it's just overkill.

Casting rules:
I definately agree with this. Yes I know, Newbies are people too (you'll find that I'm a supporter of Newbioe rights!), but ones that pop up two weeks before casting and have made 5 posts just aren't a part of the community yet. I think a 25 to 50 post count limit would be optimal. With that many posts, one has definately made an impression on the forum, and has been an active person in the 'tribe'.

In response to the "one lead, two understudies" rule, I think it's perfect. As much as I wish I could be Electra and Demeter and Munkustrap at once, I'm just as happy understudying them. Perhaps I could have understudied other characters, but really, why would I want to bother? I'd be taking away understudy parts from other people. As for leads not getting understudies... if a person is leading in more than one character, or is close to, it's only fair to give that person the understudy role. Afterall, he or she should have been that roll aswell.

Cast list:
It's just perfect, darling <3
MsJellicle

I just want to say that the questions were ones I just thought of while I was tallying the lists and analyzing the results. Nothing is definate. I only put the questions forth for discussion. Smile

Alonza0: Regarding the limit, I didn't mean for there to be a limit in order for people to be able to vote....anyone from the CATS forum can vote if they want. It's only the being able to be cast as a character limit that I was thinking of. The reason I thought about it was because the whole casting process is based on personalities. How can we know your personality well enough if you've only made 5 posts? And something like 20-50 posts isn't really all that much. But I understand your position. I don't want to exclude newbies at all. I'm just saying I don't think those with only a few posts counts should expect to be cast because we haven't had a chance to get to know them well enough. Make sense? But I'll go with the majority opinion on this.

Regarding the Lead Swings: Roxanne and I had come up with names before when we thought this up last time...but the only name I could remember that we use was Hesperia. I'll have to go look it up if we continue with the lead swings.

I'm not sure about adding on a character. I wasn't too keen on adding Ghengis in the first place. It just seems that if we add any more it would be too much. In fact, I almost want to shorten the list. But again, the majority rules on this.

And since I'm posting...
Everyone, please feel free to question or comment on any part of the casting process along with the questions I had asked. I'm always looking for ways to improve the process. Smile

~MsJ
Belle

Firstly, thanks everyone who voted for me, and I'm sorry I didn't get time to do my own list!

I think everything's great the way it is, except I'd like more time to submit the lists. It usually takes me 2-3 hours to come up with my list (as I have an appallingly bad short-term memory, everything gets doble-checked) and I simply haven't had the time and the brain-power to get it done in time this past weeks. It might just be me being useless, after all I could have started it earlier, but I just didn't manage. I promise I will in January tho!

I know some people take this much more seriously than others, but I'd like to see more of the few words explanation why someone's been put in that role, just a "(lively)" or "(knowledgable)" - a clue as to why that person decided to put that name there. It's not something that can be proscribed in the rules, but it'd be nice!
Nemi

Oh, yes, I think Genghis is needed. If we have Growltiger and Griddlebone, we really do need him.

But past that... just...overkill, I fear.
Luc

Where do we get the banners? Embarassed
Nemi

musikal_geek wrote:
Where do we get the banners? Embarassed


Some forum members make banners. As soon as I saw my official casting, I made my own. I'm happy to make banners for anyone who sends me a PM telling me who they've been cast as and/or are understudying.
darkmage

Nemi wrote:
Oh, yes, I think Genghis is needed. If we have Growltiger and Griddlebone, we really do need him.

But past that... just...overkill, I fear.


I agree, esp. because I got cast as Ghengis. Sweet. Wink Thanks, everyone!

I like the system as it stands, but having a minimum post requirement to be cast strikes me as simply common sense. How can you cast a character when you have no idea what a user is like behind that screenname? Likewise, I think members that HAVEN'T posted in a while or are no longer active members (you could probably check their IP logins) should not be considered for casting either. If they've lost interest in the board chances are they've lost interest in casting, too.

Just my $2.

I have to go play with Photoshop now to make myself a Ghengis banner. Twisted Evil
MsJellicle

Hmm....so how long would you say is sufficient for a member to be 'absent' from the forum too long to be cast? Would a member have to have posted within the last 6 months in order to win a role? Would they not be allowed to be cast, or just not be allowed to win a role? Only current active members win roles?

~MsJ
ceresava

-Squees- Victor <3

That rocks so much ^^
darkmage

MsJellicle wrote:
Hmm....so how long would you say is sufficient for a member to be 'absent' from the forum too long to be cast? Would a member have to have posted within the last 6 months in order to win a role? Would they not be allowed to be cast, or just not be allowed to win a role? Only current active members win roles?

~MsJ


I'd say six months' inactivity would be a good rule of thumb, as that's the time between casting calls, and I agree w/the only currently active members at casting time win roles. Say someone goes on sabbatical to Kyrzigstan studying anthropology or something for a year and they don't post at all, they'd be knocked out of the casting call(s) that occurred in their absence. That's not to say if they become active again they're knocked out permanently. If they do become active members again they should qualify.

Does that help?
Nemi

I'd say if they haven't posted since the last casting (6 months), they really don't deserve to be in the new one. They haven't been in a member of out community for the entire time we've been 'waiting' for a new cast.
Drumdraper

Yes! I have Skimbleshanks once again and I am a Munkustrap understudy. Thanks everyone!

Regarding the swings, if we give all the swings names then it would like casting characters as well. I feel that the list is long enough already. Maybe what we could do is allow whoever are swings decide themselves if they want to be called by a swing name. Like SapphireNight claims the title adult male swing, but she can call herself Grumbuskin, Gilbert, or George Bailey if she wanted, but it's not mandatory. The swing name she chooses can just be one she likes and then another adult male swing could use the same name as her. BUT they say they are swings and not canon cast member.

I think we only need two understudies per role. If there were more than two, it would be a headacher for the tally counters and too much to keep track of.

I have nothing aganist newbies and I am a perpetual newbie/kitten at heart, yet I agree with some of the others. A newbie could just come to the forum and come for the casting, but we really won't know the person very well. I think a 20-50 or higher post count is a good idea, but requiring 100+ is too much.
wonderjoe

whoo, Quaxo!

now all i need is one of those spiffy sigs...
MrsJemimaMistoffelees

I'm very happy to be the forum Jemima again ^_^ Thanks to everyone who included me in their cast lists!

Nemi wrote:
I'd say if they haven't posted since the last casting (6 months), they really don't deserve to be in the new one. They haven't been in a member of out community for the entire time we've been 'waiting' for a new cast.


I agree. But I think that they have to have at least post once every month. Why? Because they could just post one time in January/July and then not post until the time of the next casting; that's 5 months without posting and newbies can't get to know them.

Veel Liefs,
Jemima Very Happy
Gwen

(*CRIES*) Laughing Crying or Very sad Wink
I have Admetus....I'm so happy!!
Thank you everyone!
This was my first casting. I'm very surprised. I was expecting an understudy of maybe...one character. And speaking of which, I'm a Carbucketty swing! Yay.
It's a happy day. Cool
Rumblepurr

My Thanks

With 14 votes for GUS, and 14 votes for OLD DEUTERONOMY, I was hoping for just one more vote either way... A coin Toss has changed my character instead... And now? I have the honor of becoming not only the Honorary Patriarch of the Vannycats, but the Jellicle Leader as well.

I truly would like to thank everyone who participated in the casting, and especially MsJellicle and anyone who aided her in the tabulation of the votes. Congratulations to all members of the CATS Forum who received a part, whether main, understudy or swing.

Respectfully,
Rumblepurr Cool
The Writer Cat
July 2006 Old Deuteronomy.
(Understudy for Gus)
Swan

*picks up Cassandra's collar* Cool

Much happiness here for the role I adore... !!! Thank you sooooo much, guys! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

About next casting, I am personally not fond of the idea of too many rules. It's simply a game, not a challenge... if for any reason I think that the Forum Member XY fits perfectly a certain role, better than anyone else, I will vote for XY, no matter if he/she is on the forum or not, if he/she is a lurker or not, if he/she writes 1 post in a year or 1000, etc. I give importance to what people write and if they really get my attention, not how many posts and in which months. That said, I for first, this time preferred to change some of my traditional votes and pick up different choices than usual, but that's just because I thought it would be good to do it, not because any rule obliged me. Too many rules IMO would make the game less amusing.
Just my opinion. That said, if the majority of the Tribe will decide to write down new rules, I will respect them.
...or maybe not. Razz Cool

Swan - Italian Jellicle
pkitty663

*faints* OMG...thank you guys! I didn't think I would make it into this one...but I did. Oh I'm so happy! I love you all and thanks for voting for me! I want to make you all cookies now! <3
Jemima57

I'm so happy to get casted as Sillabub again ^^ thank you sooooooo much !!

As for your questions, I personnaly like having lead swings.
For the understudy, two is a fine number. More would make an enormous cast list, and wouldn't mean anything more.
I also think it's great that each of us can have a part and only 2 understudy, it gives more chances for everyone to get at least a swing part.
Spanish_Rumple

Dancing Thank you a lot for having casted me as Rumpleteazer!!! (wait till Hugo knows about it!!!! yayyyyyyy!)

about understudies: I think two is quite allright because you give the chance to more people being included in the casting list.

about being casted: the rule should be to write within the six months before the casting list, but it would be nice if people wrote more than one posts in this period of time because it's important to know about someone's style of writing in order to relate him/her with a character.

about the charcater's list: for me it's a bit too long but just because there's a bunch of characters with whom I'm still not too familiarized with (George, Victor...etc) But I wouldn't cut off characters because most of the people here know most or all of those characters. So go ahead with it!


These are some pictures... I would be very grateful if anyone could be able or had the time to make me one banner pwleeeeaseee Smile I can find more pictures if necessary.

http://chatnoir.seven.cz/video/cast/m&r.jpg
http://home.twcny.rr.com/ringwald/cena-pix/rumpleteazer.jpg
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/guam/549/rumple/rumple12.jpg
http://www.just4fun-magazin.de/user/profilbilder/img3066s.jpg (this one is a bit two small... if anyone has got the same version in bigger size, that would be better)
http://groups.msn.com/ElRinconDeMungojerrie/mungojerrieencatsmadrid.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=103
MademoiselleMusicals

Thank you so so much for casting me as Griddlebone! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Applause I will be the best ever Griddlebone! I did actually make a casting list but I lost all the info and was out for ages then found the thread was locked. Mad
abbeycat

*freaks out in the headlights of a car*

Wow, thanks to all that voted for me, I now share Demeter with the Beautiful Soloque!

as for casting lists etc, I think lead + 2 u/s is fine, there are so many people on here that would love to be included. That way it gives a good chance to get involved. Nice idea for the lead swings!

the new tribe are now free to roam the Junkyard.......

MODS: Is my siggy too big now?
enkeli-kitten

YAAAAY!!!!! =^-^= I'm so happy to be cast as Tumblebrutus and wow, Electra understudy too!!!! Thanks so much to everyone!!!! *hugs everyone*
Munkujerry

Yeah! I’m understudying for Bill Bailey and George, I’m very happy for my first casting, thanks again to everyone who voted for me Very Happy
Héhé… there was just one vote between MzGalinda and me for sharing Bill Bailey, and it’s my own vote Laughing
Anyway, congratulations MzGalinda, you deserve it.
Misto

Completely missed this thread! Yeah, I'm Misto!!!!!!! (And u/s Cori and Alonzo, my 2nd 3rd favs!) Thank you so much to everybody who voted for me. Complete surprise, as I haven't been posting much lately (still lurking around, though). Wheeeeeeeeeee! Of to celebrate by making myself a new wallpaper for my computer!
Filakatessa

Thank you thank you Smile I am happy to be sharing the title of Mistoffelees with Misto and take on the u/s roles of Quaxo and Skimbleshanks.

It has been fun voting Smile congrats to the cast!
Claire

Woohoo! I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who voted for me, and I'm really happy to be understudy to both Demeter and Mungojerrie. Also, I was the person with the most varied votes, which I find really cool!

thanks again! xx claire
Mungostoffelees

Thanks to everyone ho cast me, it's ace to be Mungo yet again...So many times running now! Hehehe! Very Happy Applause

I'm so sorry I didn't get to submit my list in time either Sad ...but for the next one i'll spend extra on it to make up for it!! Exclamation

Made myself a crappy temporary banner for now! Had to resize it too so it looks even worse now haha! Better to come! Wink Mr. Green Applause
Rumblepurr

abbeycat wrote:
MODS: Is my siggy too big now?


I think that size is about right... btw - who is the Demeter?

Rumblepurr
CATS Forum Moderator

Honorary Patriarch of the Vannycats
July 2006 Old Deuteronomy...
Lady Jemima

What a great list this year! Congratulations to those who were casted, and thank you to those who included me on their lists--especially as Jemima! Perhaps next time around I'll snag her title. Wink
abbeycat

@ Rumblepurr, thanks for the size check!
I think the Demeter is from Berlin?

I can't remember, I have so many pix on my computer I went with the one that interested me the most at the moment, kinda like 'Flavour of the week'!
I will check when I am at home on the laptop and see who she is, I have them filed but can't remember off the top of my head! If anyone else recognises the pic feel free to jump in with the answer! Laughing
Spikesters Munk

I think I'm gonna have to stop taking such long vacations from posting on this board so I can get Munk back <G>. I miss being cast as him....

Congrats to all and look forward to the next casting Smile
Mixu

I see I'm cast as Alonzo. Thank you all Smile. This has been a great week. First this, and then the results came back from university, and I'm one of the lucky ones who got in Very Happy.

Also, would anyone be interested in making me a banner? Smile
Stargazer

I'm so sorry I didn't submit a list. I have been busy with other things and was not able to submit a list and come and check this board until now x.o

Thank you everyone who cast me as Victoria, I was not excepting to be cast as a role this time around due to my long absense.. hahaha I must post more x.o

I enjoy that there are only 2 understudies and you can only have 1 main role and 2 understudies, it works perfectly. I also like the idea of having a certain number of posts to be able to be cast. This makes so that newer people try to make an impact upon the board other than "I WANT TO BE CAST PLEASE CAST ME" and they disappear and never come back because they only had 1 or 2 posts and no one noticed them...

I also think that if you are inactive, you should not be on the list.. Its sad for me to say that, because while I look at the list some spots are filled with people I never thought would be in that spot other than some people, but due to inactiveness the newer members didn't know who they were and they were mostly the ones with the lists mixed with older members.. Its sad, but if you are inactive, it is not fair to someone who is trying toget noticed and has a spot stolen from them because people vote for someone who's last post was at the beginning of the previous year (I don't think this happened, its a bit of an exageration.. but I'm tired so please humor me.. lol)

Anyway, thank you so much again and sorry for bringing this thread back up x.o
audreydarling

I really like all the ideas..I have a question though..how would one become involved with the virtual cast next time..so people request roles..or just got nominated and voted on for being active in the cats forum?..its based on personality right??..the idea of a MDN cast is so great! especially since it's changed often! Applause
Rum_Tum_Tigger

Hmm...understudy for Macavity...ah well, I suppose since I'm
A) New - and haven't been on this site for a good month (thanks to being in No-internet Italia)
B) Didn't get round to voting for anyone...
C) Too short for the part, anyway...
That's not too terrible. Thankyou...with conditions.
-The Rum Tum Tigger Twisted Evil
(Secretly planning to off smudge so she gets the part)
Swan

Rum_Tum_Tigger wrote:
haven't been on this site for a good month (thanks to being in No-internet Italia)


Interesting. Cool
And... out of curiosity, exactly in what part of this wasteland are you at the moment? Wink

Swan - Italian Jellicle
~Bal~

Thanks so much, guys. I am back from New York and can thusly properly express my gratitude.

Merci!
Alonza0

audreydarling wrote:
I really like all the ideas..I have a question though..how would one become involved with the virtual cast next time..so people request roles..or just got nominated and voted on for being active in the cats forum?..its based on personality right??..the idea of a MDN cast is so great! especially since it's changed often!


Yup, you've got the idea I think. Just next time it comes around, which will be Jan. 1 2007, come on over here and post your list. You can post for two weeks after Jan. 1. To get put in people's votes, you're gonna have to post around here like crazy. Make yourself heard and let everyone know who you are and that you're here to stay. Then post a bit about yourself in the casting discussion thread when it comes along around the end of December. Then, hopefully, people will notice you and cast you. However, you might not get the part you want. If people think you're personality is that of Rumpleteazer, they'll cast you as Rumpleteazer even if you want to be Electra. Make sense?

Oh, and MsJellicle, I'm sorry I haven't posted in response. I understand your idea now and I like it. Sorry for being so... difficult.
Rum_Tum_Tigger

Swan wrote:
Rum_Tum_Tigger wrote:
haven't been on this site for a good month (thanks to being in No-internet Italia)


Interesting. Cool
And... out of curiosity, exactly in what part of this wasteland are you at the moment? Wink

Swan - Italian Jellicle


Ah - I just got home. But I was in fiuggi, near roma.
Balurina

sorry I didn't get to this sooner all I've been in transit lately. Thank you all for your votes Smile I'll try and live up to Exotica Smile

Balurina Smile
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