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[BrightEyes]

[Salome]

[BroadwayBud]

What about Matthew Broderick as Boq? Just a thought...

[cherartist]

[cherartist]

I think Mathew would be a good chocie!

[Musical Fanatic!!]

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If this was derected tward me ,
I would just like to say that I have read the terms of this site, I was simply stating that I thought it was rude for them to insult Kristin, That is why I said that I don't prefer Saycon and Shoshana as Elphaba but I don't trash or insult them. I just thought it was rude to say that kristin sucks. I respect this forum very much. I hope this comment was for what they wrote, not me. I was merely telling them they should not say someone sucks, maybe say some dignifyed resons for not liking a cast member of wicked, or any other musical. I don't care to discuss this anymore since it is straying from the actual point of this topic.

[cherartist]

sorry i am are hard head person, runs in my family , i just wanted to retalyate, lets just get back to duscussing wicked as a movie!

[cherartist]

thanks for sticking up for kristin!

[Musical Fanatic!!]

its ok i think shes awesome!!!!! so... the movie??

[cherartist]

This probably sounds goofy but i think cher could be madame morrible, just pictue it!

[Musical Fanatic!!]

i agree in a weird way...

[cherartist]

yay i am big cher fan and i am an artist so i can very much visualize cher in the makeup
anyway if you want to see some of my wicked art work I have a pic of kristy and idina, heres the links,
heres idina,http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/cherartist/Picture004.jpg
heres the one i gave kristy, http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/cherartist/Picture002.jpg

[actor]

[Baker]

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/100672.html

[Alonza0]

My friend and I are here reading your lists of who should play who and we decided to make our own.

Elphaba: Idina Menzel
G(a)linda: Kristin Chenoweth, who could get Broadway fans and other people
Fiyero: Jude Law, just compare pictures of him and Joey McIntyre and you'll know why
Nessarose: Anne Hathaway
Boq: Jake Gillinhall
Wizard: Darrel Hammond, who would bring in SNL fans
Morrible: Angela Lansbury all the way
Dillamond: Hugh Panaro, who would bring the loads of Phantom phans
Chistery: Karl Morgan, who would bring in the LOADS of Cats fans over at the Cats board

[Baker]

[DramaRobin2002]

[Baker]

There may be something about them having first dibs, but I doubt it. And while I agree Angela Lansbury is brilliant... I just can't imagine her as Morrible. Carole Shelley, I feel, is Madame Morrible.

[Salome]

no broadway star gets first dibs in a contract. even the great Rex Harrison had to fight to do the film of MFL. and he was a big film star as well.

[lalala]

[DramaRobin2002]

Sorry, was just repeating what I have heard. I wouldn't think it would be so far fetched though, with Universal involved from the beginning.

[sadie1208]

If they do make it into a movie I think that Reese Witherspoon would make a good glinda since whoever has has seen Walk the line knows that she can sing.

[DramaRobin2002]

[Musical Fanatic!!]

[robbie]

Okay has anyone ever thought of this?

Sutton Foster as Elphaba and Angela Christian as G(a)linda if Reese won't do it. Sutton has an absolutely amazing voice and she can really belt notes. She's not too old or too young. I saw her in "Millie" and she was outstanding. She's a great actress. Angela Christian played Dorothy in Thoroughly Modern Millie with Sutton. She's not bad, but I would rather see Reese if there was a choice. And while I'm on TMM what about Gavin Creel as Fiyero? He's got an amazing voice as well. Mdme. Morrible I think should still be Glenn Close. Nessarose should be Anne Hathaway or Emmy Rossum. Oh what do you all think about Kellie O'Hara as Glinda. She played in Light in the Piazza. I'm not too familiar with her, but she might be good.

[Salome]

[Luc]

I think what was meant by "opera" was in the opening number.
"let us be glad, let us be grateful....etc."

[Ep-Griz-Reno]

I agree wuth Witherspoon-but same thing-worried about the opera...=/....and I really don't think Sutton should be Elphie ((nothing against her, she's one of my idols))...I just think she'd make her too youthful, and wouldn't play the maturity that I think she should have...to me, she'd play it the exact opposite of Shoshona ((who I thought played her the best))...just some thoughts =D

[lalala]

It's a bit worrying that people think of Wicked as 'opera'.

[DramaRobin2002]

[MsDivaKate]

[Ep-Griz-Reno]

Yeah-sorry-I didn't mean opera either... hahahah I understood wheat everyone meant when they said it though....yeah...just her high notes =)

[MsDivaKate]

[Ep-Griz-Reno]

[lalala]

Yay, thanks MsDivaKate!

Again, it's a bit naff to judge Reese Witherspoon on what she can or can't sing based on that - she was playing a country/folk singer, that film wasn't an audition for Wicked. I think that based on the way she looks, she would make a nice Glinda, but I doubt she'd do the role... it's so similar to Elle Woods.

I don't think that Wicked, the way it is, would work as a film. The script is consists almost entirely of this:
Glinda: *random one-liner*
Elphaba: *random one-liner*
Glinda: *random one-liner and wand twirling*
Elphaba: *random one-liner and shouting*
Glinda: *random one-liner and bouncing*
Elphaba: *random one-liner and gasping*
The script just isn't strong enough to support a film no matter how catchy (some) of the songs may be.

I agree with Salome, Wicked as a film based on the book would be a far better idea... based on the book, it could delve a bit deeper and take a less superficial look at some of the more relevant themes. Rather than a twirling, shouting, bouncing, gasping one-liner fest!

I'm mean..

[qpidsangel]

you're not mean, you're just correct. Nothing wrong with that

[lalala]

I was gearing up to be flamed to no end.. !

[MsDivaKate]

[Ep-Griz-Reno]

[MsDivaKate]

[Ep-Griz-Reno]

Well That suckssssss things based of of things seem like they never do them justice...the last harry potter movies...THE DaVINCI CODE OH MY FREAKING GOD....jkgfnskjgn...what a disgrace....hahaha...well you go to bed now, you've been saying you've wanted to for like an hour lol...HASTA LA VISTA!!

[MsDivaKate]

[BroadwayBud]

Wicked: The Musical is BASED on the idea and storyline of the book. I doubt it was meant to be a direct translation of all the novel. I think of the musical and the novel as to different approaches to the telling of the same basic story. So, I think a movie version of the musical will definately show up at some time or other, but that still isn't to say a movie version of the novel won't pop up either.

[MsDivaKate]

[Etoile]

There was an article in a local newspaper about this...from what they said, the book Wicked was original supposed to be turned into a movie. They said that it required a lot of inner dialogue which was very uncinematic. They decided to do a musical instead because, "In a stage musical, you can turn to your audience and sing to them exactly what you're feeling." I've never read the book but I don't doubt that it could be turned into a good movie.

If you really want to have the experience of bad book-based movies, read Ella Enchanted and then see the movie. Or even better, read Les Miserables and then see the 1998 movie. See if you break as many things as I did.

[DramaRobin2002]

[MsDivaKate]

[Musical Fanatic!!]

Could they not make a film adaptation of the book yet with some light, fluffly, harmless moments and with all the songs????

[qpidsangel]

[BroadwayBud]

I don't think too many people would enjoy a combination of both.

[MsDivaKate]

Definitely not. I'm not even sure a combination of both could really work without being horribly messy.

[Alonza0]

[angellwings]

I'm more of a "light and fluffy" person my self. I'm not entirely sure that I personally would go see it if it was based on the novel. I am a big fan of the musical. Haven't read the book, and with all due respect I don't plan to. I think it would ruin my enjoyment of the musical. Just like reading A Walk To Remember ruined the movie for me (As well as GOF, House elves and quiditch! there was like two minutes of quiditch and there was no SPEW!!)

If I did go see it I wouldn't want CZJ in it. I like her but she just LOOKS too old. But I don't know if Kristin or Idina could pass for college age if they could I would prefer to see them in it. I like Anne Hathaway and Glenn Close. Jude Law is a big NO! so is Ewan. George Clooney as the Wizard is a no! He is too put together and handsome to be the Wizard. He's someone we in the US would call wonderful whether he was famous or not as opposed to Mickey Rooney or Joel Grey. I would like to see Joel Grey I don't think he's done a movie since Cabaret (other than The Fantasticks). Fiyero would have to be someone whose done the role before or a complete unknown.

If Kristin and Idina couldn't do it, I'd prefer one of the other former cast members.

Tim Curry (spell?) would be a good Dillamond or Victor Garber.

But in the end I guess it's up to Universal. Either way the musical, Kristin, Idina, Norbert, and Joel will always be what I picture when I think about Wicked.

[TCMan]

Funny that you mention a movie version of Wicked. I have a DVD about the behind hte scenes of Wicked. In there, there is an interview with Stephen Schwartz and he mentioned that they were planning on doing a movie version of Wicked before the idea of bringing it to the stage came into play. Would have been interesting to see how a movie version of the show would have differed from the stage.

[TheWitch]

They were planning on doing a movie back in the mid 90's with Demi Moore playing Elphaba. The movie was to be based off of the book but the screenwriter (I think) thought that there was something missing from it so he called up people and then it was turned into a stage musical. It was never planned to be a movie musical.

[DramaRob]

Why don't they just do a really good video of the stage version. If you watch on the 2nd DVD of Phantom they show a bunch of clips from the stage show and it is up close and personal. I would just like to see one where they do that. I know then the whole well I don't like this Elphie or Glinda will come up, but if they were smart release a DVD with all the casts they've had so far including the tour casts. That would eliminate that. And if they sold them for $25 each they could make a lot of money cuz they know people will still go watch it live and see different casts. Just a thought though.

[Baker]

[Luc]

If they had a DVD of the Original Broadway Cast (a la Into the Woods), I would buy it in half a heart-beat. I would love that soooo much.

[Azaelia]

I agree that a movie of the stage version - Broadway, rather than every version - would be the best. A movie of the play would be too hard - Defying Gravity might not be as sensational, for one. (Although I have seen stage effects done very well on film, like Angels in America.)

That said, I doubt it would ever happen, because they (the writers) seem very protective of their show. The Grimmerie, which contains some of the libretto, still omits a great deal of it. There's at least one song omitted from the OBC CD. So I doubt they will be taping it any time soon.

Plus, the only "taped version" of a stage play I ever saw was something made for educational purposes. I don't think any play has ever had someone tape it for pure recreation.

[BroadwayBud]

Most Sondheim shows are video taped and sold such as Into the Woods, Sunday in the Park with George, etc. etc. Stage productions of Kiss Me Kate and Oklahoma have also been professionally filmed and distributed.

[Baker]

[BroadwayBud]

[quote="Baker"]
I know ITW was at least, because Tom Aldridge (I think) had already left the show and came back for the recording.
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I didn't know that. That's interesting!

[DramaRob]

Yeah I take back what I said. I didn't think about how many casts that would be. That woudl be a lot of money too. I do think that it would be cool if they did one like they did the new Oklahoma. They first film with an audience. Then go back and do close up scenes where you can do many takes. Then at the end of songs, jump back to the live performance and show the audience reactions/applauding. It worked well with that show. That would eliminate the trying to figure out how to jazz up a film/movie version. Then just release the DVD and forget about the theatres. Wicked fans will buy the DVD anyway. As far as the casting. Maybe try using a famous cast like others have proposed. Anne Hathway, and whoever else people said. That would be different, but kinda neat too. The hard part would be getting them to do one live show, for the live clips they use.

[Salome]

[Baker]

[sing4Him]

Actually WICKED was supposed to be a movie before it was adapted into a staged musical... kinda cool, eh? but with the adaption some of the story was changed such as the ending. i don't know if it would have the same success as a film as it has as a live performance. but you never know!

[Luc]

[broadway_baby416]

The thing about shooting a movie with the original Broadway cast of Wicked is that a lot of its stars--Idina Menzel, Kristin Chenoweth, Norbert Leo Butz--have moved on and started other projects, starring in other shows and whatnot, and if they've already signed their contracts, it could take a while for the movie to come out...

[broadwayprincess]

But it wouldn't neccesiarily be the same as the cast members from Broadway or would it? xx

[lalala]

I think that it has already been debated ad nauseum whether or not this would be the case, why bring it up again?

[boosterdragon]

Actually you know who'd be perfect for the part of Elphaba?


Margaret Hamilton.

We have the technology.

Yeah yeah yeah, I can hear the naysayers. But you should check this out. Go rent the Wizard of OZ DVD and take a look at the special features. There was a "home movies" section that had the cast posing in photo shoots. Hamilton was in her witch garb but her hair was long and she was acting silly. You take about about ten, twenty years off the face and that IS Elphaba! You should also look at Hamiltons biography and see the clip showing her photo in her earliest movie break. There also are photo stills showing her in what seem to be movie scenes, probably rehearsals or something, where she is in witch garb but having long hair, and her expressions aren't as psychotic, and she does look younger. I'm not saying CGI should replace real actors all the time, but I think Wicked would be best done as a high quality CGI (Okay MY personal first choice would be a traditional Don Bluth style animation but CGI would be my second). I mean it would be a freakin TRIP watching THE Wicked Witch of the West...as we've always visually known her.....doing things like acting heroicly having an emotional conversation with Glinda, and chatting it up with her old classmate Avaric and some high society company over wine (a scene from the book).

[Pounce]

I don't think the technology is at the point where we can animate an actor of the past believably. We can insert stock footage of film. I haven't heard if we can recreate the voice with new dialog.

[rabymon10]

try X-Men 3. the opening sequence does just that. they have also done a short where they have done it with Marilyn Munroe. it can be done. also seen Batman Begins? the CG is so good, you can't even tell which bits are for real, and which is a CGI model, unless you watch the special features.

the voices can be electronically enhanced. it's done all the time on film, tv, and radio. all audio is mixed to a certain degree, and can be enhanced to the point of total unrecognisability.

at this point in time, i still don't support a Wicked movie anyway. not until i see a director (and production team) that has a vision that can potentially replicate a similiar aesthetic experience on film than what can be found in theatre. it would have to be pretty radical for it to work, and in the end - if there was a director capable of such a vision, it doesn't mean that he'd do the film in the first place.

my feelings are is that there is just so much that is 'exclusively' theatrical in Wicked, a lot of it would obviously have to be changed for a movie version. now, i'm all up for change if it makes a better movie, but how much can change before it is still 'Wicked'? hmmm.
that's just my two cents.

JAI

[TheWitch]

yes the technology is ther but that would just be stupid

[rabymon10]

i agree. i was just making a point of the fact that it can and has been done successfully. there would just be no point to use it really, except in the case that they used cast members from the show (for example, Idina and Kristen) and they used the technology to make them appear younger in the early stages of the movie.

JAI

[renthead311]

I've never seen the musical of Wicked, except what's on youtube. I've never read the book either, although I do own it and will read it sometime soon. I do have the OBC recording and love the score.

I recently saw Sweeney Todd the movie, and was a bit dissapointed. I've never seen the musical and didn't know much about the musical. My opinion is based on past Burton films as well. His movies are great (acting, directing, and just plain cool looking), but they tend to be boring. Maybe it's the screenplay, but his movies are always a bit long and boring.

I feel he would butcher Wicked. Chris Columbus did with RENT. I've seen both the movie and musical version of RENT and he didn't really do the musical justice. Unlike Wicked, RENT wasn't a book to adapt from, so mabe that was harder to do. Wicked, however since it's a book, should be what they adapt for the movie. And from what I know, the book and musical are a bit different, so some songs might have to changed or cut....which will suck BIG time! So....basically... UNIVERSAL STUDIOS...no Tim Burton. Or Chris Columbus. Maybe Rob Marshall who did Chicago....maybe anyone that has an amazing resume and just get someone that can write an AMAZING screenplay!

[Mistress]

[rcs]

[Salome]

uhm.. Molnar's ending WAS better.

[rcs]