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| Patrick |
I'm pretty sure we decided to get married at one point, as long as we are both polygamists. huh. And, I must say, this was one of my favorite threads. and just because I haven't done this kind of thing in a while...
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| SuperKabob |
Under current laws, polygamy is legal, but the state will only recognize the first wife, for simplicity's sake. If two people consider themselves married under their church, then those people can have as many spouses as they want. It's just not a state-recognized marraige. |
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| Patch |
Here's an unpopular opine I hold much to my theatre's friend's chagrin...
I feel that profesisonal wrestling is a fantastic and very pure form of theatre and improvisation. |
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| Emilala |
We didn't? Interesting... |
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| Patch |
That is interresting seeing as both slavery and spousal abuse/assault are both very illegal. |
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| Emilala |
My point exactly. |
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| Cake_in_Song |
We didn't make MARRIAGE illegal, is my point. |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
What I don't get is, why do people even care? It's not effecting you in the slightest... let guys marry five women, let girls marry girls... what difference does it make to you, personally, to the society, as a whole, and to the world, in the long run? | ||||||||||
| Che |
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word. |
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| Matthew |
In the words of Beagle (if my memory serves me correctly):
"Because it makes me uncomfortable." I laughed. |
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| Asha |
We were talking about AIDS today in Chemistry for some reason... And I started singing that part from...forbidden broadway, I think, where they're parodying Rent, and it's like, "AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS...cause everyone has AIDS!!!"
I was just sort of singing it to myself and laughing, not because AIDS itself is even remotely funny at all, but because the parody of Rent WAS funny. So now half of the kids in my chemistry class think I'm some sort of monster that thinks AIDS is funny.
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| NoOneMournsTheWicked |
'Everyone Has AIDS' is actually from 'Team America: World Police.' | ||||||||||
| Asha |
Oh, okay, I couldn't put my finger on anything other than forbidden broadway...but you're right. But yeah...now they all hate me. |
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| Patrick |
I would really like to point out to my uber catholic family that the Catholic League and Vatican rarely agree.
srry if thats unpopular. |
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| Salome |
no one should agree with the Vatican. | ||||||||||
| Mademoiselle Lanoire |
So when the Catholic League and the Vatican disagree, one should side with the Catholic League? |
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| DaddyDiesel |
Another unpopular opinion I hold. I think anyone one can a piece of enjoyment out of any movie or musical. | ||||||||||
| Robinflamingo |
An unpopular opinion I hold: don't do a dance audition in athletic shoes.
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| Pounce |
Huh? |
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| Beagle On Stage |
Unpopular opinion: "Sweeney Todd"...not so great. If I bother to go to the movie, it will be purely as a social event.
It's as valid as anything else. And I have about 60 more years to vote based on it. |
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| Pounce |
I have several personal items that I have named 'Mohammed'. | ||||||||||
| jesuiscommejesuis |
Racist much? |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
Mohammed is a Muslim name? What, like Jesus is a Christian name? Let's get real. Mohammed (Mohamed, Muhammed, etc.) is an Arabic name. |
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| Beagle On Stage |
Okay, Jesus is a Hispanic name. Racist much?! |
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| DontDoSadnessxx |
I know that was a long time ago but I read and wanted to cry. It makes no sense! ITS A CAST RECORDING. NOT A SOUNDTRACK. SOUNDTRACKS ARE MOVIESSSS AHHHHH it makes me want to run into a wall! my unpopular opinion... well i despise sarah brightman. Like a lot. when im home alone i put on legally blonde the musical... ( I KNOWW?!) thats it =] glad to see there is little women love <3 |
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| le_moofin |
Unpopular opinions of mine... let's see:
1. I don't like Carrie Underwood. She's blonde and bland, like every other "new singing sensation" out there. 2. I can't stand Sarah Brightman's voice in PTO. She pronounces things oddly and doesn't sound like a young woman. 3. I also can't stand Daphne Rubin-Vega as Mimi. She sounds AWFUL. Not to mention raspy and off-pitch. 4. I thought Gerard Butler actually did a good job as the Phantom... given the fact that it was his first time ever truly singing. Also, even though he looked young and "hawt", I thought he acted the part well (I actually got the sense that the Phantom was an evil, sadistic creep... which he truly is). 5. PATRICK WILSON'S VOICE IS SO PERFECT THAT IT SEEMS EFFORTLESS. 6. Sondheim songs are hummable. 7. Singers who take themselves seriously should be musicians. If you can't read music, remember dynamics, use diction, etc., DON'T CALL YOURSELF A GOOD SINGER. 8. Not everyone can sing well. Everyone can, however, with lots of hard work and dedication, become a competent singer. 9. I'm against the federal government deciding whether or not gay marriage is legal. 10. Being a Protestant Christian who tends toward being a conservative Republican... I'm actually very big on environmental issues. I use ethanol instead of gasoline for my car, am a nazi about conserving energy, and hug trees. I like trees =D I also HATE HATE HATE the huge developments that are being built. They tear down trees for humongous homes that house maybe 3-4 people. Stupid, greedy, materialistic people... |
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| theatre_grl |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
The name "Mohammed" has been around FAR longer than the religion of Islam.
Jesus is NOT a Hispanic name.
What does your political philosophy, associated governmental party, and especially religion have to do with not wanting to kill the environment, exactly? |
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| Robinflamingo |
You ARE kidding, right? |
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| theatre_grl |
Jesus became a popular Hispanic name because of Jesus Christ It was originally a Hebrew name, I'm pretty sure. |
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| Beagle On Stage |
Is, not was. Do you know any non-Hispanics named Jesus? |
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| Robinflamingo |
Well, since Greek, Hebrew, Latin and Aramaic are basically the basis for ALL language... Jesus, or Yeshua, was always a common name in the Hebrew world. Why shouldn't it be in the Spanish world? We Anglos use the name Joshua, which is essentially the same name. The name that differentiates the Jesus we thlnk of from all other Jesus's the the world is Christ, meaning Savior or Redeemer of the world. |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
Okay I can go have a child on Neptune and name it Jesus - that doesn't make it a Neptunian name.
http://www.behindthename.com/name/jesus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_and_titles_of_Jesus_in_the_New_Testament http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/etymology_of_first_names.htm http://www.parents.com/babynames/babyName.jsp?babyNameId=308197 Jesus has absolutely ZERO roots in Hispania. |
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| Robinflamingo |
I clicked on your first link. Then I clicked at the bottom where it said "see also..."
http://www.behindthename.com/name/jesu10s |
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| le_moofin |
More that my political philosophy (etc.) would suggest that the environment is not one of my main concerns. It's more of an unorthodox opinion rather than unpopular, I s'pose... |
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| PappyCat |
I see what you are saying...Like a gay republican is a surprise to people. | ||||||||||
| Asha |
Ha, yeah. Try a republican who's not only a lesbian, but black too. Oh, my buddy Cyree. What a silly girl. I'm not trying to offend anyone, in advance. We just always mess with my friend Cyree because her beliefs seem to be almost directly contradictory to everything she is. |
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| Not Dead Yet |
My "unpopular opinions" may not necessarily coincide with this forum.... this may also refer to mainstream people.
Musicals-wise: -I don't like the staged version of Lion King... It shows how the theatre world is seriously deluded. People don't even know what real theatre is anymore. It's not just showy glitter obnoxious wow-we-can-fit-puppet-elephants-in-the-aisles and that's all I really get from Lion King... this is proven because it beat out Ragtime for best musical Tony.... when Ragtime got both Best Score AND Best Book Tonys.. -I hate Cats, JCS, West Side Story, and Fame. -There's something about Moulin Rouge I really dislike. -Commercial appeal doesn't mean the show is good, and a box office failure doesn't mean it's bad. Just look at Passion, Little Women, Ragtime. -Off-Broadway shows are better than Broadway shows. -I Love Little Women -Phantom of the Opera is better in Vegas than it is on Broadway. Shorter, less annoying. -I hate jukebox musicals. Including Mama Mia and Jersey Boys. -Oklahoma should crawl in a cave for about 50 years and then come back so we won't be so tired of it. -Wicked ruined itself. -I sometimes prefer minimalist theatre over super expesive shit. -Spamalot is amazing. -Chess is overrated. -A Chorus Line's music mostly pisses me off. -Dream Girls movie? Hated it. How can you have musical numbers on stage and then randomly in the middle of the movie decide "Hey, let's sing to each other"? The fact that it's a musical should have been established way beforehand so that the audience wasn't left in WTF mode for like 2 scenes. -Avenue Q deserved best musical. -I don't like Aida. Everyone I know does... and it confuses me as to why. -A hate Grease, Travolta, and Olivia Newton-John. -Legally Blonde is enjoyable *cringe*. -Spring Awakening (a favourite of mine) is vocally unchallenging. -I can't stand Rent anymore. -Adam Pascal, Anthony Rapp, Daphne Rubin-Vega? Aren't that great. -Mimi should have died. People-wise: -Julie Andrews kicks Audrey Hepburn's ass. -I can't stand Sara Brightman. She sounds like Stitch from Lilo & Stitch. -Stephen Schwartz isn't that great. -Jonathan Larson is a bit overrated. And I also think a big part of his fame is his death. -I don't like Pattie Lupone all that much. Nor Lea Salonga. They're divas. -Sondheim (which I might remind everyone is my favourite composer) tries too hard. But I'd prefer that to being lazy like Webber. -"I miss Ferris Matthew. Broadway Matthew -- I find him cold." <-- by the way, if you got the origins of this quote, I love you forever. -Idina Menzel is overrated. -Kristin Chenoweth is talented, but annoying. -Cher should have stuck to only acting. -Emmy Rossum can't act. I would have preferred Anne Hathaway. -I love Sondheim more for how much thought he puts into things than for his music (which is still brilliant). -Keira Knightly has a rotten personality. -Dane Cook is not funny. Random: -I don't like Gone With The Wind. -I usually only like a mezzo voice when there's an impressive belt. I SAID IMPRESSIVE, IDINA! Not unhealthy. -I don't particularly enjoy dancing. -I love the Harry Potter books. I hate the Harry Potter character. -I think I'm Deist. |
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| qpidsangel |
Holla atcha girl. |
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| JIJane |
Have you met Keira Knightley? I would be careful making assumptions about people's characters unless you have actually spent some time with them personally... As for your other comments - some I must agree with. |
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| JIJane |
Have you met Keira Knightley? I would be careful making assumptions about people's characters unless you have actually spent some time with them personally...we all know what the media can be like and from personal experience I know that it usually gives a very inaccurate portrayal of the actual person. As for your other comments - some I must agree with. |
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| Salome |
Alot of Not Dead yets comments musical and people wise are not unpopular opinions ..they are fairly common.
except i disagree that Sondheim tries too hard. he always has a reason for everything he does. also everythnig ive read about Kiera Knightly points to a well rounded and charming girl. that said all the other comments made in them usical and people section arent unpopular at all. |
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| katethegreat |
I must say, having met Keira a few times through work, she's actually a really nice girl! She's very guarded about her personal life, which doesn't always come across well in interviews - but she has a good head on her shoulders considering all she has done by 22 (?)
Most people know my musical related unpopular opinions...not that I can be arsed to go back 40 odd pages to find my last post on this thread...I do enjoy Wicked and, as much as I love him, Sondheim is not the be all and end all! As for other things...Michael Caine: ridiculously over rated as an actor. The Fray are possibly the biggest pile of shite and worst thing to happening to music in a long time. Even seeing them do a live set could not sway my opinion. Brendan Fraser: Deeply under-rated as an actor/ Thanksgiving: Should be thought about more - not celebrated People without kids, or who don't smoke should be given some extra time off to even out all the accepted extra time these people get for smoke breaks and family holidays. |
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| JIJane |
Brendan Fraser had a rare chance to show his acting chops in Gods and Monsters...a fabulous film....but yes, he has certainly been type cast. | ||||||||||
| Quique |
*Punches her in the nose* |
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| Cake_in_Song |
The Beatles are overrated.
*hides* |
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| Salome |
punches Heather in the stomach! |
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| Cake_in_Song |
*Repels Dawn's fist with her iron abs* |
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| Salome |
gee.. you wish girls..swings at your jaw! | ||||||||||
| Brock07 |
**Helps Salome**
I support George W. Bush and the war. *****RUNS AWAY***** AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! |
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| Cake_in_Song |
*Uses new ballet skills to kick you in face* | ||||||||||
| Salome |
brings arms up to block! | ||||||||||
| Cake_in_Song |
While arms are blocking face, kicks in shins. | ||||||||||
| Salome |
owww!
backs up very angry! grrr! takes a deep breath and swings at your mouth! |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
Just hop in bed and get at it already, you two. | ||||||||||
| Quique |
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=815_1182708743 |
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| Cake_in_Song |
In your dreams! |
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| Cake_in_Song |
*Goes Kindergarten-core and pulls your hair* |
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| pish123c |
I laughed for much longer than I should have at that. Does that make me a bad person? |
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| kozafluitmusique |
I don't like the Golden Compass book series...they are so weird...I hate them. | ||||||||||
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| Not Dead Yet |
LMAO! I didn't even remember writing that. I was looking through all 40something pages for hours yesterday, adding to my list when something came up, and then I just remember thinking "Keira Knightly thinks too highly of herself," and then I kept thinking about it and got worked up and added it. I laugh at it now, but yeah. She is talented, though, I'll give her that.
By the way, the old lady punch makes me wanna cry. That is so uncalled for, lol! This is a good one: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=68bcac0736 As for the other "popular" unpopular opinions, I dunno, they're unpopular with people I know. And on youtube. I've been attacked a lot for some of those.... |
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| theatre_grl |
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| pish123c |
I like how she just keeps walking with a neutral expression on her face. Priceless! Old people make everything funnier. |
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| Lepitot |
I think they meant the soundtrack to the MOVIE. Yes, it was a recording of the movie cast, but since it was released as the movie recording, I think it's safe for her to call it soundtrack. *Backs away slowly* |
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| Pannic |
I actually didn't hate Gerald Butler in Phantom of the Opera. | ||||||||||
| Mara |
I didn't until I listened to the soundtrack. Then I threw up. |
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| le_moofin |
Being a Christian, I wasn't exactly pleased to hear about what happens at the end... -shakes head- But I've never read them. Are they on the level of Harry Potter books or more challenging? |
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| frenchhorngirl |
i dont see how the people saying they like andrew lloyd webber is an unpopular opinion. most people love his songs, or at least can appreciate his talent. | ||||||||||
| Lepitot |
I think that the music from Spring Awakening is overrated. When I first heard it, I loved it.
But, the more I listen to it...the more empty the music leaves me. The lyrics, in my opinion, are just so meaningless. "Cause you know, I don't do sadness not even a little bit, just don't need it in my life" it sounds like an emo rock band. At first I loved it, but now I just don't see what all the hype is about. I can't say anything about the show itself. I can only speak for the music. I don't see what's so great about it. I don't think it's bad. I just don't see the greatness. |
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| mastachen |
I still haven't figured out what the Blue Wind part means. I like the show itself and I respect what the director and producers try to do with the material. But I think they went overboard with the symbolism. |
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| Not Dead Yet |
There was actually a point when I thought this for a little bit. I had been in love with it since February, and then this summer I started doubting how good it was... Then I went to see the show. It really is amazing. The music is wonderful to listen by itself, but it's really incomplete if you haven't seen the show. |
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| my_work_my_name |
The books do not reflect classical christian theology. Pullman may well believe that he has 'destroyed' christianity with His Dark Materials, but there are frankly very few, if any, direct parallels between the theology of the books and present-day christianity. I have a few close friends and family members who belong to various christian denominations, and all of them love the books. Quite apart from anything else, they are incredible stories which display a huge amount of depth and imagination. The conclusion of The Amber Spyglass is actually deeply moving. Look past the religious content, or better, dismiss those things that you don't recognise in your own belief system, and you will find so much richness in the trilogy - just please don't dismiss a work of fiction before reading it, on the vague impressions you hear from other readers. |
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| kozafluitmusique |
I have friends who are the same religion as me (Roman Catholic) and loved them...I just couldn't get into them at all. |
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| qpidsangel |
I agree with everything you said here, these really must be unpopular opinions lmao |
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| Catherine |
ll.[/quote] don't you guys call the first one The Northern Lights? Thats what it was originally... they cahnged it for the film. |
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| my_work_my_name |
I believe the American publishers made a mistake regarding Philip Pullman's instructions with the naming of the books. The Golden Compass was going to be the name for the entire trilogy (not referring to the alethiometer, but to the books themselves as being some kind of celestial configuration), but was later changed to His Dark Materials. The publishers, however, thought he meant the first book to have that name, so that's what it became...have I got this right, anyone? Northern Lights is a much more evocative name, I reckon, and more suited to the book, but there we are.
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| rcs |
I think The Golden Compass is a much better title for the first book. It just makes so much sense, since the idea of North is so important and all. Plus, I like that all three titles refer to an object. It's a nice symmetry, and it makes the title His Dark Materials more meaningful, if you know what I mean.
And as for my unpopular opinions about musicals: I don't like ALW (although I like a few of his songs in isolation, particularly All I Ask Of You from POTO) I like Wicked a lot (I get the impression that a lot of people on here hate it.) I absolutely DETEST Rent (I'm an opera lover and rock musical adaptations of Puccini strike me as something like sacrilege). I think She Loves Me and The Most Happy Fella are extremely underrated (I think She Loves Me is an even better show than Fiddler, although I love Fiddler as well). I think Guys and Dolls is the greatest musical ever written. I don't care much for My Fair Lady (some of the songs are nice, but the plot doesn't work that well for me). As Lerner and Loewe goes, I think both Brigadoon and Camelot are better shows. My favorite R&H show is South Pacific. |
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| theatre_grl |
Hey I'm Catholic too! Anyway, I read the books and really liked them--I took as a fantasty story, which it is, not an attack on my religion. I was really surprised by the controversy made by the new movie. |
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| Matthew |
Yeah, it's not that great. |
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| Lepitot |
Seriously? I'm in Guys and Dolls now playing Nathan, and we've only had one practice (which was a read-through), and I think it's pretty boring and over-rated. |
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| Matthew |
It's only boring when it's with dull costumes and sets and when the dialogue and songs are slow. | ||||||||||
| jesuiscommejesuis |
Exactly. I've been in the show, I'd seen it before and after I was in it... I just think it's the most boring unappealing show ever. |
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| Matthew |
I've been it in and have seen it 9 times and it never gets old for me. I love it. | ||||||||||
| candymancan |
That's how a lot of shows feel when you first start them, they are retty boring and weird at first but once you finally get a feel for them then they will knock your grandma's socks off! But I agree, Guys and Dolls isn't one of my favorite shows, but it isn't a bad show. |
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| katethegreat |
Lol! |
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| duchessina |
Yay! Someone agrees with me! The Republican party has gotten a bad rap. Lea Salonga has a pretty voice, but it's overrated. |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
Dumb people shouldn't be allowed to vote. | ||||||||||
| Cake_in_Song |
This is a very dangerous viewpoint, no matter how you look at it. If you start awarding the franchise to people based on something like IQ or academic performance, you'll be moving away from a democracy and towards oligarchy. In the current structure of the US, the people achieving the top marks in schools are, for the most part, the children of rich, white capitalists. Do we want to deny masses of people the right to vote because they're educational system is weak due to poverty? If you go on IQ, you may end up denying the rights of the disabled, or those who have alternate kinds of intelligence. Either everyone gets the vote or no-one. It's not right to say some people can have it, and others can't. |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
I mean that mostly in elections. I think it's ridiculous that some people will literally walk into a voting booth and randomly pick a name. That's an example. I don't think it should be based on IQ or anything... I just think voters should be more well-rounded with their knowledge on candidates. They should be able to hold a five-minute conversation with somebody discussing the views and ideas and histories of at least four or so candidates from each party. Unfortunately, most voters are incapable of doing so. "The biggest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with an average voter" -Winston Churchill |
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| Cake_in_Song |
Then, you want to look at beefing up the education system, not taking away voting rights. |
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| mastachen |
I think you strongly underestimate voters. Most people won't vote unless they have an idea of who they want to vote for and why. Those who don't care enough about finding out about candidates probably won't be voting either. |
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| Lepitot |
Nothing to do with your post...but is that Barret Foa in your avatar? Whoever it is...he's hot! |
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| Sweeney Hyde |
I think that Oklahoma! is extremely boring. | ||||||||||
| jesuiscommejesuis |
That's not true at all. Plenty of people will flock to certain candidates for certain reasons... NYC people will vote for Giuliani, female dems will probably vote for Hillary, black dems for Obama, etc. All without knowing much or anything about their fellow running-mates. I mean, when the primaries are over, it's usually pretty obvious who's voting for who, but I mean especially in primaries. And I don't think it's a school's responsibility to inform students about presidential candidates. What about adults who do the exact same thing? |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
Yes. We're secret lovers |
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| mastachen |
You're generalizing with your use of the word "all". |
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| Patrick |
I agree. I'm really not too wild about R+H in general. TKaI, SP, Carousel, can be good shows, but the rest are pretty weak. I don't like ItW or SitPwG, especially compared to other Sondheim work. Camelot is the best L+L show, but MFL is more significant Westboro Baptist Church needs to get the ---- out of my city. |
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| jesuiscommejesuis |
I'm looking at both instances of where I said all, and don't see how I'm making generalizations with either one. |
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| mastachen |
The way you structured your argument, you made it read like NYC people will vote for Guiliani all without knowing much or anything about their running mates. Or female/black dems will vote for Hilary/Obama all without knowing much or anything about their fellow running mates. My guess now is that's probably not what you meant, but since I'm not a mind reader, I took what you wrote at face value. In any case, I know lots of female democrats that won't be voting for Hilary, and I'm sure you can find lots of black democrats who won't be voting for Obama. And I don't see anything wrong with New Yorkers voting for Guiliani. It's not like he was a bad mayor of NY or anything and he was widely praised for his handling of the city after September 11th. It's his personal life that has brought his morals and ethics into question. lol |