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| Jordan |
Why the new username anyway, Kad? |
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| TheWitch |
I think you all are completely over reacting. Stronger language than the above mentioned has been used on this forum with out any one batting an eye or throwing a hissy fit. If one person is allowed to express their views than why shouldn't the other be allowed to respond just as strongly? This is all a bit disapointing. | ||||||||||
| Aimee |
I beg to differ. Show me anywhere on this forum somebody said "youre acting like a f***ing nazi wanting to segregate the jews." and a short while later continuing the attack with ‘anti smoking nazi’ and I will believe you. Though you are missing two points here. One it's not the language alone, its that it was used as a personal attack. There is a big difference and this is covered clearly in the rules. 12. Personal attacks and bullying is not permitted. If you are attacked you should report the posts but NOT retaliate. And Two, Pappy did NOTHING to deserve a warning, Salome just didn’t like what she was saying and used personal attack tactics to shut her up. Not acceptable.
/\ This is the kind of post is just making the situation far worse and dragging it out. People know the rules, they break them, get a warning, then moan about it, other people weigh into the argument [there will always be differences of opinions] it goes on and on and on and on.... and the whole thing becomes a storm in a teacup. To all board members, unless you genuinely have something new to add to the debate please do not post about this particular matter again. The debate, as far we are concerened is over. The mods really have nothing more to say about it, we have stated why she had the warning and Pappy was asked to stop posting on the thread. You all know this and that should be the end of it. Any more posts about this will get the response they give in our parliament here:
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| Jordan |
I had to edit your swearing in that post Aimee |
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| Aimee |
not mine. I put in the actual letters to point out what she actually said. The polite starred-out version I'd used above gave the impression that Salome had been politer than she had. |
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| Salome |
at that point Pappy didn't deserve a polite response. enough said. | ||||||||||
| Jordan |
Yet you wonder why you got given a warning... |
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| Salome |
actually yes..she startedi n with very very offensive comments. i tried to explain to her in various ways..she just kept gting worse and more offensive. yet all she got was a slap on the wrist. | ||||||||||
| Bianca. |
Hi y'all.
I'd like to be the first to suggest sticky-ing 'the play thread' in auditions auditions auditions it's unique, helpful, and flourishing. I think sticky-ing it will call attention to it for newer readers.. and bring more attention for existing readers.. to a subject that so many musical fans overlook, but that is so necessary in auditions and the like. and started by the lovelyful allie.. so theres another plus. |
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| dwarves r very upsetting |
I agree! Everytime I think of something to suggest its already there. It is a great resource for anyone interested in doing a straight reading. Not musical. | ||||||||||
| Jordan |
I've given the thread a look over. There are a number of stickies in the auditions forum already. I'm not going to sticky this one just yet. Let's see how it pans out. |
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| opheliarose |
Is it me, or are some really ancient threads being suddenly revived out of nowhere? | ||||||||||
| CameronCraziex3 |
How many posts must you have to achieve each "star level"? | ||||||||||
| Melindaisy |
Can someone tell me why my avatar doesn't show up to other people? I can see it if I am logged on, but others can't and I doen't see it if I check a post withou logging in. I am using a URL link.
Thank you! |
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| Carbucketty |
I think that happens when you restrict the profile to friends only. -- |
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| OnceUponATime |
That's me too, I learned from the post where people comment on your avatar.
How does one change that? |
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| Carbucketty |
Profile> Profile Settings - Privacy (I think.)
I have N, N, Y, Y, Y, Y. |
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| Melindaisy |
OK I changed it.... can you see me now? |
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| OnceUponATime |
Can you see it now? | ||||||||||
| Melindaisy |
I can't see yours OnceUponATime.... | ||||||||||
| OnceUponATime |
Now?
I can see a box with a red x for yours, but that's my computer and not necessarily indicative of what other people can see. |
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| Melindaisy |
I see yours now! |
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| Robinflamingo |
Well, I see BOTH of you |
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| Dvarg |
I have a question about the locking of the Jesus thread.
Aimee says it was locked because it upsets/offends people. What does it take for a thread to offend/upset people enough to get it locked? I ask because I have been deeply upset and offended by other various threads without them being locked even though I did tell the administrators. I'm not saying those threads should be locked because I found them offensive. I'm just curious why this thread is locked and if there are different reasons. |
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| Aimee |
Various threads get locked, threads about sex, threads inviting insults to others, not just threads on religion. They don't get locked at a matter of course but if somebody tells us the thread has offended them, either by PM, blue button, email or on the thread itself, we take a look and make a judgement call. The context and forum environment at the time of each thread is taken into consideration. If a thread is deemed offensive it could be locked [and the fact the someone has told us they are offended suggests that it is]. Subsequent threads about the same subject will be monitored much closer as the mods are already aware that this subject can cause offence. If members find it offensive we will act much faster second third etc time round to 'nip it in the bud'.
In THIS case there have been other threads recently which ended up with insults and/or as arguments about religion and people's beliefs [even resulting in people leaving the forum as a direct result]. This one had already caused offence today. So, to prevent further offence, it was simply locked but not removed. I personally don't see any way I could have been fairer to all involved do you? |
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| katethegreat |
Sorry, I realise my comments in that thread can't have helped |
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| Aimee |
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| Dvarg |
I have no idea, I was just curious. |
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| Quique |
Ack. I've been having this annoying problem lately. Maybe someone could shed some light. The threads I open remain marked as unopened (that is, they remain orange). They stay that way, no matter what I do. Does anyone know how I could fix this? |
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| Aimee |
I get it sometimes too. Try clearing all the usual stuff- cookies, histories, on and offline files etc.
Then try checking you time settings. Sometimes they read wrong if your clock is wrong. |
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| Quique |
Thanks. I'll try that. =) | ||||||||||
| Luc |
Re: Zarzuela - Spanish OperaRe: Zarzuela - Spanish OperaI try to avoid making these kids of posts, but I couldn't help it this time. what_the_heck013 was looking for some information about the show. Someone said that they could send him files of the music (I believe) and it was locked becasue of piracy. Don't you agree that it would have been more appropriate to just edit the other person's post, and be done with it? Now what_the_heck013 is back to square one, just because someone offered something illegal. This is just my opinion, and I'm really not trying to start an argument. I'm just wondering why the whole thread had to be locked, instead of one post being edited. Look at it this way: In the picture thread, if someone posted a slew of pictures that they took during a Broadway performance, would the whole thread be locked? No. Because other people can use the thread. That one post would be deleted/edited and there would be no problem. But in this case, one offer was made (it wasn't even finalized) and the thread was done-for. Again, not trying to stir the pot here. Just wondering. |
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| Quique |
lol!!!!!
I'm really loving Musikal_Geek right now. Why is he being censored over and over again? lol. Btw...I'm sorry for suggesting "piracy." I just meant to help a fellow member with school. But I do realize it was wrong to offer the full recording. Oh well. |
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| Jordan |
I locked it, I didn't delete it, it can still be read. The offer was an illegal offer. Thory being that Quique should receive a warning/strike for making the offer. I call the fact that the thread was locked a reasonable compromise. | ||||||||||
| Quique |
Oh, come now...I was helping a kid with his homework. Don't be such a friggen prude. Grrrr. | ||||||||||
| Jordan |
You made an illegal offer. I compromised. I don't see where I'm being a prude here. Maybe I should have given you a warning? Maybe people want the board to get shut down for allowing illegal activities? |
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| Quique |
OK, I apologized already. I just think there should be further compromise when it comes to helping people. Oh well, guess I'm wrong. | ||||||||||
| Quique |
I'm sorry. I really am. And I'm sorry for calling Gayboy a prude. That was uncalled for. =( |
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| Jordan |
Howdy Doody visited with her usual round of shit. |
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| OneSongGlory |
I move that we create a rule that says you cannot post pictures that makes people feel uncomfortable.
I know in my school we had a big talk one day about how making people feel uncomfortable purposely is considered bullying. If you keep posting a picture where people will see it who you know will feel uncomfortable by it and yet you do it just to piss them off, isn't that bullying, which is against the rules??? |
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| Bianca. |
That is a very, very good point. If we lock and delete threads for making people feel uncomfortable, shouldn't the same be applied even moreso to pictures? With a thread, one can begin to read, but stop once they realize the matter is offensive(though it does not make it any less offensive). With an image, one is bombarded with the offensive material without their expecting, and they, and even those around them, are subjected to things they did not want, nor expect to see. Also, where can I find a copy of the Rules, Regulations, and Guidelines of this Forum? There is a matter I'd like to double check, but I can't seem to find anything other than the faq page. |
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| OneSongGlory |
http://musicals.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46628
Notice the rule against bullying |
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| OneSongGlory |
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| Pounce |
I don't know...I just can't conceive of the idea of a gay man being a prude. |
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| The Very Angry Woman |
Where do you draw the line, though? Pictures of Bruce Vilanch make ME uncomfortable. |
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| Bianca. |
If it makes several members uncomfortable enough to have bluecarded several times, There should be some sort of action when the image is continually thrust in their faces to make them uncomfortable. |
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| christinadaae |
Could we simply have a rule stating that if one member comes to a moderator with a serious concern about a picture, the user must remove the picture or not add the same one or one of the same nature again.
Seems simple. |
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| Quique |
I'm inclined to agree, though I do have one question: are you guys offended by that picture because it's of Gayboy or because it shows someone's bare shoulders?
Btw...others on here have posted pics of shirtless young men before and even racy pictures of Borat. Nobody was offended then. I don't agree with some of the rules sometimes, as you can see ealier in this thread. But as much as I hate to admit it, I did break the rules, which is why I apologized. I don't think Gayboy needs to apologize for posting a pic of his face and shoulders. It seems people are simply confused and don't know his intentions in his posting of that pic. It seems people are thinking he was trying to be perverted in some way. I just think it was posted in jest and lighthearted self-mockery. |
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| christinadaae |
I generally loved everything you said in your post, however, I believe the Gayboy should apologize for his rude behavior to Bianca and a few others. Not for the posting of the picture, but for his behavior after the picture was posted. |
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| Quique |
Oh, I see. I thought you wanted him to apologize just for posting it the first time, lol. | ||||||||||
| Bianca. |
No, the initial posting is not the main issue. The issue is after myself and several others said it made us uncomfortable, He used his moderator status to override our blue cards, and continued to thrust the image at us, after we made it known to him it made us uncomfortable in more than one instance. Now, I do believe that commiting an action worthy of giving a mere and lowly member of this site a strike or warning should also be kept in the same standard for striking those known as the moderators, and I do also believe that they should be held to even higher standards. Instigating arguments and fights, hoping one will cross the line with a toe so as to be able to unleash their oh-so-holy mod stick on the provoked member is a clear overstepping of Moderator privilege. Is there a set of rules especially for moderators? (This next portion comes from sheer curiousity, and is not an implication that anyone's rights be revoked at this particular time) Is there a set guideline that if is repeatedly breached, the other moderators can step in and avoid a sort of dictator-like tyranny? Is there nothing stopping a moderator from becomming completely corrupt and using their power unjustly? |
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| OneSongGlory |
Yay for democracy. |
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| Pasty |
This place has never been a democracy. | ||||||||||
| Jordan |
Just a one liner to say that I have read this. As I stated when I asked for the to be brought to this thread, it's up to the other moderators. | ||||||||||
| Pounce |
I think that is called Sally and there is no authority beyond her other than the host of MdN and beyond that the legal authorities. But the mods generally seem to work by consensus so it is somewhat of an oligarchy but Sally has ultimate control. I've seen in my opinion some questionable calls by the mods but I don't think they have abused their power. |
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| christinadaae |
They obviously havn't. Our mods are great. Bianca was speaking hypothetically, for curiosity purposes. No one was suggesting that these rules were needed at the moment. |
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| Bianca. |
oh yeah.. that was just my imaginative mind contemplating the chances of a Godzilla style attack.. I don't think anyone has abused power.. yet. |
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| Ariel |
is there a way to lock the threads that contain pictures of us so only people who are logged in can see them? i don't want random people surfing the web looking at pictures of me, but i don't mind if they've signed up for an account here. | ||||||||||
| OneSongGlory |
^No. Threads are all public unless they're contained in a private forum.
In order to get the picture thread private, the owner would have to create a new forum that's completely private and then move the picture thread to there. Regardless, once any picture is on the internet - regardless of whether it's "public" or not, it's findable by anybody. |
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| The Very Angry Woman |
Then DON'T POST THE PICTURES. Good god. Is it that hard? |
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| Ariel |
uh, sorry? | ||||||||||
| OneSongGlory |
Just ignore TVAW, it's not that difficult. |
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| The Very Angry Woman |
Aha ha ha. |
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| Luc |
Could my posts PLEASE stop being deleted?
In the WICKED forum, someone was talking in text-talk, so I replied and told him/her how it should be written, so that people will actually read the post. It was deleted. This is rediculous. I understand that it's probably not a nice thing to do, helping another member out, so I apologize. But whoever deleted my post should really loosen up a little. I'm sure that that person wouldn't be offended by someone correcting them. Note that it wasn't just a few words. The whole thing was filled with numbers and slang... it's just really annoying. Maybe if I registered again under "The Very Angry Kid" it would be alright, because it seems OK to take actions depending on what your username implies. Anyways, have a terrific day, and stop being so uptight. No one benefits from it. |
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| OneSongGlory |
Ohhh snap! Are you sure they were posted? It's a rule that mods have to either PM you with a reason as to why any of your posts was deleted, or just edit out whatever's bad in it and write in that post what they edited/why. Otherwise, someone's doing a no-no! Question to mods: is it you main guys (that moderate "social club" who are like the #-C mods, for example? |
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| Quique |
You mean...ridiculous, right? |
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| OneSongGlory |
You're ridic. (Say that fast) |
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| Bianca. |
totally going to use that all the time now. <3. |
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| Ariel |
AHAHAHA i had to say it like 10 times before i got it. |
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| Quique |
Yes, and proud of it! |
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| Pounce |
Not meaning to get off subject but I've seen ridiculous spelled rediculous so many different times and by so many different people that it is...well...ridiculous. Does using the 'e' impart some sort of modern double entendre or is that a lot of people don't know how to spell ridiculous? |
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| Bianca. |
the latter. my own personal pet peeve.. is 'looser'. *twitch* |
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| OneSongGlory |
I say that to pretty much every teacher at my school whom I dislike. They don't understand it and get pissed off. Then I have to explain it. And it makes them look dumb. All I have for you Enrique is an overly sexual wink |
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| Ariel |
i HATE that people can't spell definitely especially when they have no problem spelling definite. | ||||||||||
| Luc |
OK guys, pretty funny. Haha.
I get it, I made a spelling mistake in a post about correcting people on their spelling and grammar. Oh, the irony. ANYWAYS... |
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| Quique |
Heehee! |
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| Nick-Ko-Las Enigma |
"If your post has been edited, there will be a reason why within the post. You will not get a PM about this." Actually the rules say nothing about deletions, other then if you edit a post back to what it originally said it will be deleted. Or if you put up a post that will get you a warning then the posts gets deleted and then you may get a pm if it is decided that a warning will be issued. Course if your post is deleted asking the mods of that particular forum why it was it was deleted might be more constructive. |
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| PappyCat |
Okay, I'm totally with Gayboy on this one. If someone who wasn't Gayboy posted a picture that BARELY IS TOPLESS (No nipples...Not topless) than you probably would have hooted and complimented them.
Seriously, I've seen extremely cleavage-tastic pictures posted, by some of the girls who were complaining. Posts that were showing off waaaay more skin than Gayboy was showing. And by the way, it would be way more inappropriate for someone to find Gayboy having underaged cleavage on his computer screen than for you to have the shoulders of a 30 something gay guy. I mean, Bianca, just a few posts after Gayboy's post, you posted this: "Hey trevor.. wanna have hott sex?" Yeah...THAT'S appropriate. I seriously wanna go put on a spaghetti strap tank top, post a cleavage-tastic picture, and see how many people complain. Because I'm fat. And it probably would be seen as inappropriate or uncomfortable pictures. Let me go put on a Rocky Horror Show costume, in the name of theatre, and see how many people find my 260lb body to be okay, because it's theatre. Nope, it'll look like I'm partaking in a fetish. EDIT and Offtopic: Just outta curiousity, I posted in a OUAM topic about finding scripts that I would be willing to scan a few pages to email to the girl so she could get a grasp of the show before her audition..after I revisited that thread, I noticed that my post was gone...and I figured it was because what I offered was illegal. I hadn't really thought about it being illegal, until it was deleted, and I totally understood why it was deleted. However, someone mentioned a "strike" system...Now I'm a little worried. Someone care to explain? |
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| Pasty |
3 strikes = ban. | ||||||||||
| Nick-Ko-Las Enigma |
"In the unlikely event of a member receiving three live warnings he/she will be censured by having his/her current user-name revoked [see moderator action section]. However we fully believe in second chances. If the member returns and begins posting within the rules then they may do so.
If however they get two further live warnings their new user-name will also be revoked [possibly by IP]. The member will then not be allowed to return to the forum. Any new user-names and posts will be deleted automatically when seen by the moderators. If a member feels they have been issued a warning or had their user-name revoked unfairly they should appeal the decision by sending a PM the moderators. The result of the moderators’ decision is final." |
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| PappyCat |
Are we told if we have a strike? I'm worried that I got a strike. | ||||||||||
| Quique |
^ I'm pretty sure you have not gotten a strike. He was just reiterating that part of the forum policy, since it was brought up by Pasty. | ||||||||||
| Nick-Ko-Las Enigma |
Yes you would be told, but a single deletion would most likely not warrent a warning. You have to work at these things. | ||||||||||
| PappyCat |
Allrighty, just checking. | ||||||||||
| katethegreat |
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Loves Mumsy - hope the rain's stopped for you! |
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| katethegreat |
Lol - tell me about it! Someone asked me if their friend could stay the week at mine because they were doing a few things it London and its so expensive...must admit I said no on that occasion Having said that, my family in Oz are always inviting me out - pity I can't afford the plane fare
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| Aimee |
As to the whole can a moderator misuse his/her position I say no, it really cannot happen and quote this from the rules:
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| Amber |
Is there any way to change one's username?
Because nobody can spell my name, or pronounce my name, cause it's superlong and superLatin. =[ It's OK, but I'm getting kinda tired of it anyway. So if there's any way to change it without starting all over again from scratch, throwing my 1980-plus posts away, that'd be fabulous. If not, that's OK too, I'll stick with it. Just a question. |
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| Carbucketty |
PM Carbucketty for username changes. |
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| Robinflamingo |
Woo HOO, I'll finally know who Amber is!! |
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| Pounce |
I think Carbucketty has a little more influence and power than the other mods. Isn't he the only contact point with Sally? This whole hierarchy is sort of like a bee hive. Sally is the queen, mods the drones, and the rest of us are the workers. Although maybe Carbucketty is yet one more layer in the hierarchy just below the queen. |
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| Jordan |
Lol, funny you should say that, we have a couple of ex members, one who referred to themselves once as The Queen Bee of M.Net and another who once said "I *am* Musicals.net!" VERY Sunset Blvd (for a 'straight' guy). |
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| Amber |
I requested it mainly because you didn't know who I was. I have such an obsessive need to be known, loved, admired, and adored. I PMmed Carbucketty. Thank you muchly for the super-quick response. |
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| Robinflamingo |
Intellectually I know who you are...but if you don't have a post right on top, I can't for the life of me come up with your screenname. That's MY failing, not your ubiquitousness...but I'll be glad to have an easier name to think of! (Why do you think my first name is in my screen name? SO I CAN REMEMBER IT!!!!! |
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| katethegreat |
Glad I'm not the only one... |
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| PappyCat |
I know, I pronounce it like "Miss Cord Eye" in my head...Which it probably doesn't resemble at all, but that's what my mind automatically translates it to! | ||||||||||
| SuperKabob |
aww...I just figured it out after listening to Evita for the 3248098th time. I see the change has been made! |
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| Luc |
OK, it happened again.
TVAW posted a snarky (but funny) reply to a question, the user believed her, and I laughed. Her post was meant to make people laugh, a blonde moment occured, and we laughed about it. IT WAS DELETED. Whoever is doing this, please, stop. If you keep on deleting peoples' posts when someone has a blonde moment, this forum will be empty in no time flat. PLEASE STOP. This is driving me up the wall! |
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| OneSongGlory |
Me-Sare-Ee-Core-Dee-Ay, | ||||||||||
| Amber |
^That's exactly how it's pronounced!
Gosh, I'm so, so so so so glad that the name got changed. THANK YOU!! |