The Duchess of Mint
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Madame Giry, The Phantom, the years, author VS. Webber, etc.Dear "POTO" Fans,
I have a few questions:
* How old are Erik and Madame Giry when Madame Giry rescues Erik, and how old are Erik and Christine when Erik first sees Christine...and how old is Raoul when he first meets Christine? (within the original novel version of the story)?
* What are the birth dates of the main characters in the novel, and during which years does the main story take place?
* How old are Erik and Madame Giry when Madame Giry rescues Erik, and how old are Erik and Christine when Erik first sees Christine...and how old is Raoul when he first meets Christine (within ALW's version of the story)?
* What are the birth dates of the main characters in ALW's musical, and during which years does the main story take place?
* How old are Erik and Madame Giry when Madame Giry rescues Erik, and how old are Erik and Christine when Erik first sees Christine...and how old is Raoul when he first meets Christine (within the movie version of the story)?
* What are the birth dates of the main characters in the movie version of the story, and during which years does the main story take place?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
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LaGataNegra
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I can answer a few without looking them up: Madame Giry is only the consierge in the book. In the show and the movie, her character is a portmanteau of Mama Valerius, ballet mistress, and the consierge.
Mme. Giry does not save Erik in the novel. He has a completely different backstory from the movie. The stage show gives him no backstory.
Raoul and Christine are small children when they first meet. -that is referenced in the novel, stage show, and in the movie.
As for dates, I don't know. Christine is around 15 or 16, Raoul is in his twenties, and Erik is around 50s or 60s in the novel. The stage show makes R and C closer in age- early twenties, and most of the Phantoms have been 30s or 40s. In the movie, Christine looks to be around 17, Raoul and Phantom mid to late 20s or 30. The movie shows Christine's tombstone with b/d dates, but I don't remember them.
I'd say the main events of the book happen 1870s through 1900, give or take.
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EponineBarker
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| Quote: | | Madame Giry is only the consierge in the book. In the show and the movie, her character is a portmanteau of Mama Valerius, ballet mistress, and the consierge. |
She kinda takes on a bit of the Persian too.
| LaGataNegra wrote: | | Mme. Giry does not save Erik in the novel. He has a completely different backstory from the movie. The stage show gives him no backstory. |
Actually the stage show does give the Phantom a backstory.
As taken from the libretto:
RAOUL:
Madame Giry. Madame Giry . . .
GIRY:
Monsieur, don't ask me - I know no more than anyone else.
RAOUL:
That's not true. You've seen something, haven't you ?
GIRY:
I don't know what I've seen ... Please don't ask me, monsieur ...
RAOUL:
Madame, for all our sakes ...
GIRY:
Very well. It was years ago. There was a travelling fair in the city.
Tumblers, conjurors, human oddities ...
RAOUL:
Go on ...
GIRY:
And there was ... I shall never forget him: a man, locked in a cage ...
RAOUL:
In a cage ...?
GIRY:
A prodigy, monsieur! Scholar, architect, musician.
RAOUL:
A composer ...
GIRY:
And an inventor too, monsieur.
They boasted he had once built for the Shah of Persia, a maze of mirrors ...
RAOUL:
Who was this man ...?
GIRY:
A freak of nature ...more monster than man ...
RAOUL:
Deformed ...?
GIRY:
From birth, it seemed ...
RAOUL:
My God, Christine!
GIRY:
And then ... he went missing. He escaped.:
RAOUL:
Go on.
GIRY:
They never found him...it was said he had died ...
RAOUL:
But he didn't die, did he?
GIRY:
The world forgot him, but I never can
For in this darkness I have seen him again ...
RAOUL:
And so our Phantom's this man ...
GIRY:
I have said too much, monsieur. And there have been too many accidents ...
RAOUL:
Accidents?! Madame Giry!
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DaddyDiesel
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I wold have to think the Phantom is in his 40's to 50's I would imagine Giry maybe 50's - 60's.
In the novel the phantom was a tocher artist for a persian king I think. I believ it referenced him being in his twentys at that point. I dont remember if there was a reference point on how long ago it was from then to the book present conversation it was.
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