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| bigR |
london new cast... anyone knows them?There's still no valjean, javert or enjolras, but appart from that the 2008-2009 london cast is nearly complete. I don't know any of these people, so I have no idea what i should think about them.Any of the british people around here has any clue? Allyson Brown - Fantine (Ensemble) Jackie Marks - Mme Thénardier (Principal) Jimmy Johnstone - Thénardier (Principal) Jon Robyns - Marius (Principal) Nancy Sullivan - Eponine (Principal) Leanne Dobinson - Cosette (Principal) Katy Hanna - Factory Girl (1st cover) Matthew Gent - Ensemble (Ensemble) Keith Anthony Higham - Ensemble (Ensemble) Gavin James - Bishop (Ensemble) Katy Hanna - Swing (Ensemble) And since there is no javert yet... from what I've seen on video, i would love it if drew stayed over here next year to play him... |
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| The Very Angry Woman |
Jackie Marks was Patti LuPone's replacement as Fantine.
Allyson Brown was in one of the concerts as Eponine. |
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| Vanessa20 |
Jackie Marks also played the Factory Girl in the TAC. | ||||
| lesmisloony |
Wait, so you mean they actually cast a former Eponine as Fantine? They do that? ... |
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| bigR |
Yes 
But from what I've seen googling everybody's names, the actress playing Éponine is 39 years old, so maybe for once it isn't an age issue and they are just giving an ex-éponine a different role to play |
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| Quique |
YIKES!!! 
Can you say, old HAG!!! |
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| bigR |
I might be slow today but, after the OLC video I'd better make sure... are you serious or just kidding? |
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| Quique |
Well, 39 years old is pretty old, considering she should be all of 16 years old! I don't mind a slight deviation of age, but, oh jeebus...39 is like an old yenta!!! | ||||
| tommo2k |
Don't think Nancy Sullivan is that old(not that 30s are old - just old for Eponine)! She was apparently one of the people on "I'd Do Anything" that didn't get through to the final.
Leanne Dobinson was in "How do you solve a problem like Maria" Jon Robyns was in Avenue Q I think. Jimmy Johstone has played Thenardier on tour before and is currently in Phantom as Joseph Buquet. |
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| bigR |
So. let's be clear on this: 1. Drew Sarich and John Owen Jones can play in their early 30's a 60 years old man (deviation of age, HELLO!!) (i've read some people complain that drew does not look old but I've never read anything similar about JOJ and from what I've seen from his 1st valjean he does not look anywhere near valjean's age) 2. Everybody jumps at my throat because I don't like the idea of a bold black Enjolras. 3. And now 39 is too old to play Éponine? I really would love some clarification. |
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| tommo2k |
Get over it!
You all have the wrong nancy sullivan anyway, the one you are on about is an American actress. The one playing Eponine is from London and I am sure she is in her twenties. |
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| Quique |
Yikes!!! I was giving y'all a hard time. I was only kidding. Don't get yer panties in a twist!!!! 
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| bigR |
That makes sense. I don't know any Nancy Sullivan so I just googled her name. But clarification still needed. Because just a month ago everybody in the forum seemed happy to see a fat old man playing Enjolras and I was told stuff like: "It's theatre. It's not realistic in the first place- can you not believe in the characters because the costumes they wear aren't entirely accurate to the period? Or that they're singing songs written in the 1980s which wouldn't have a place in 19th century France?" "If suspension of disbelief is such a huge problem for you, you must get really out of sorts during the final battle when all the barricade boys start succumbing to invisible attackers in slow motion" "Do you also have a problem with fat old people? If he was good, I really wouldn't have a problem". "Can you not just sit down and accept that in the efforts of the production team to cast the roles with the most talented people" "do you really think theatre is for you? I mean if you can't willing allow yourself to enter this world of (When put plainly) "make believe" and willingly suspend your disbelief for an hour or two then don't bother". |
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| bigR |
Sorry, Quique...
I didn't see your last post before posting mine... 
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| Quique |
Oh, no problema, paisana. 
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| lesmisloony |
I don't know if anyone needs any clarification from me, but here ya go:
When I complain about the ages of Cosette and Eponine, I'm talking movie cast. I don't have any opinion on stage age. The first time I saw Miss Saigon, the woman playing Kim was in her early forties or late thirties, and it was only weird when one of the twenty-year-old strippers said "She's just a little girl!" Her performance was great, so I didn't fault her for being old. Stage age doesn't bother me. Movie age really does. And. My constant bitching about Eponines and Cosettes playing Fantine is just because I'm miffed that Fantine doesn't have a fanbase. I think lots of Eppyboppers get Fantine and Eponine confused somehow. And casting former Eponines as Fantine just further cheapens Fantine as a character and turns her into... like, Edna from Hairspray or something. Just spectacle. Come see Michael Ball in a dress! Come see your favourite girl from the TAC--yes, she's still alive! Not saying they didn't do a good job in the role (or Lea did, at any rate). Just saying... Fantine deserves fame in her own right, Ruthie-style. |
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| bigR |
I knew what you ment LML!
But I think that the problem with Fantine and Éponine does not come from the age of the actresses who play them. It's just than teenage girls can "totally identify oh my god I'm just like her" with éponine while ,since Fantine is a mother, they don't think about her as a girl. They just put her on the "mother shelf" and forget about her... If it is any consolation I think that Kaho Shimada was back in Les Mis a couple of years ago in Japan and they did not cast her as Fantine. She was Éponine again. |
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| eponine5 |
I have to say that I was quite amused about all the worries about the new Eponine's age. 
I'm fairly sure that this is the Nancy Sullivan in the cast: http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/92506 I agree about the apparent lack of originality in the casting of Fantine. I guess that because today it seems that Eponines and Cosettes are usually at early stages in their careers when they are cast, when someone wants an actress to return to Les Mis she simply gets cast as Fantine...whereas the male parts in Les Mis often have returning actors, as those characters don't have to appear as young as Cosette and Eponine. If anyone gets what I'm saying. |
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| Orestes Fasting |
Well, at least it's a nice change of pace to have a former cast member come back as Mme Thénardier instead of Fantine. And an OLC member too! Awesome. 'Bout time--they've already brought back half the OBC and TAC people over the past few years...
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| Elin |
Allyson Brown was in one of the concerts as Eponine.
She was in the 2003/2004 Danish tour (performed in English). It was not a concert version. Leanne Dobinson was in Les Mis as a child. (There's a program from her run on ebay now. Yeah, I'm the seller ... )
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| EponineMNFF |
I agree with this so much it hurts. So, so true. |
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| Elin |
Leanne Dobinson article:
http://tinyurl.com/46pea5 Earl Carpenter will be playing Javert: http://tinyurl.com/3hdpgm |
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| The Pirate King |
Awesome. Now I have assurance that in the next five years when I make the London trip, I get to see someone who isn't Hans Peter Janssens. Hopefully. |