Ronnie-O 139306
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JERSEY BOYS the movie musical?On BWW.com on the main board there is a topic about a JB's movie musical!  I hope they cast the original cast. 
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prettypanda09
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There was talk about this on the Wicked forum too, and I still say the same thing
"I think they are making too many musicals into movies. Although it may make the work more famous, it is drawing away from the point of musicals. I say stay with the originals and stop the movie ideas. However if they do make it into a movie I agree with what some people on here have said -- that the should try to get a good majority of the original cast and try to stick to the musical not change things up too much"
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i'm_gonna_make_it_on_broa
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Re: JERSEY BOYS the movie musical? | Ronnie-O 139306 wrote: | | JB's movie musical! |
Wait a minute, there's actually gonna be a JB movie? 
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Sweeney Hyde
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| prettypanda09 wrote: | There was talk about this on the Wicked forum too, and I still say the same thing
"I think they are making too many musicals into movies. Although it may make the work more famous, it is drawing away from the point of musicals. I say stay with the originals and stop the movie ideas. However if they do make it into a movie I agree with what some people on here have said -- that the should try to get a good majority of the original cast and try to stick to the musical not change things up too much" |
However, if you look at the history of musicals in the movies, there would be at least 12 major musicals released for the movies in a single year.
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christinadaae
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I could see it happening. Its one of those plots that would translate well to the screen and to the genral public.
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Maniacbob
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I dont think it would be all that amazing
It would do well, make plenty of money, and all that
But I dont think it would be a very good movie
It just wouldnt work well imo
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RainbowJude
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The Point of Musicals? | prettypanda09 wrote: | | I think they are making too many musicals into movies. Although it may make the work more famous, it is drawing away from the point of musicals. I say stay with the originals and stop the movie ideas. However if they do make it into a movie I agree with what some people on here have said - that the should try to get a good majority of the original cast and try to stick to the musical not change things up too much. |
I'm not sure I understand your objections. What do you mean by "the point of musicals"? Musicals have almost always been a part of film history, certainly since the innovation of sound in 1927.
And adaptations of stage pieces have almost never remained completely faithful. Sometimes this isn't to the advantage of the piece - for example, some of the older MGMs are particularly cumbersome because they didn't trust the material as is, to a certain extent, Carousel. But I also think there is little point in merely reproducing what is on stage for the screen - otherwise you end up with something like Oklahoma! or The Producers, faithful but trite, pat and lacking in vitality.
I think filmmakers have to adapt the material to suit the medium (remember it's film and not the theatre) and find a balance between their vision of the piece and the piece itself. That's when you get successes like The Sound of Music or Chicago. And I don't necessarily mean audience pleasers; I mean films that work both as adaptations and as films in their own right. Making movie musicals is a difficult business.
But they have a place in the entertainment industry. So what's the problem?
Later days
David
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The Very Angry Woman
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I have a lot of reservations about a Jersey Boys musical. The show itself is fantastic -- strong book, snappy dialogue, and the songs are placed perfectly. I don't know how it would translate to screen for three major reasons:
* On stage there is no reason to bother to age the actors; that's all done through the special effect of acting. Aging makeup would be distracting on stage and even more unnecessary on screen.
* What do you do about the songs used as narration? Would you cut out "Oh, What a Night," "Earth Angel," the reprise of "Walk Like a Man," and "Fallen Angel"? I think these are probably the weakest scenes in the show simply because they don't follow the style the musical has already established -- that the songs are used where they would've happened in those situations in real life. Jersey Boys is not so much a musical but a play with music.
* Who would the four main characters be addressing during their monologues? And don't tell me voice-over; that could work in tiny pieces, but that much voice-over would be tedious if they were to preserve the massive amounts of dialogue.
I could see Jersey Boys being done if it were simply a biopic of the Four Seasons, which wouldn't make it so much "Jersey Boys" anymore. The other option would be to film it on stage and go the PBS or Bravo route, but that seems like a cop-out.
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RainbowJude
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Good Reasons - Hooray!Now you see, Very Angry Woman, those are all reasons I can understand. They are specific, they make sense and I can't really flaw the argument that supports them.
Later days
David
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i'm_back
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I watched an interview with John Lloyd Young on Broadway.com, and they asked him about a Jersey Boy's movie, and he said that he thought that was cool, but also said that with movie musicals they rarely cast the original cast...... that was kind of prooved wrong with Rent, but who knows
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The Very Angry Woman
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| i'm_back wrote: | | I watched an interview with John Lloyd Young on Broadway.com, and they asked him about a Jersey Boy's movie, and he said that he thought that was cool, but also said that with movie musicals they rarely cast the original cast...... that was kind of prooved wrong with Rent, but who knows |
Rent is just one instance. Just because it happened once in recent memory doesn't make it any less rare.
Hey, I just saw a green rabbit on my way to work today. People say green rabbits are rare, but I saw it, so it must not be rare anymore.
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i'm_back
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| The Very Angry Woman wrote: | | i'm_back wrote: | | I watched an interview with John Lloyd Young on Broadway.com, and they asked him about a Jersey Boy's movie, and he said that he thought that was cool, but also said that with movie musicals they rarely cast the original cast...... that was kind of prooved wrong with Rent, but who knows |
Rent is just one instance. Just because it happened once in recent memory doesn't make it any less rare.
Hey, I just saw a green rabbit on my way to work today. People say green rabbits are rare, but I saw it, so it must not be rare anymore. |
really? I just saw four of them.
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thexredxbaron
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Wait. Wait. Wait. You think Fallen Angel is a weakpoint in the show?
That's probably my favorite song in the show hands down. And I'm kinda obsessed with Oh, What a Night, too.
I also don't think that the music is likeable commerically to the target audience of most movies. Most people 12-20 are going to think that older music is 'wierd'.
But I think more musicals should be turned into movies, if handled correctly and creatively.
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The Very Angry Woman
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| thexredxbaron wrote: | | Wait. Wait. Wait. You think Fallen Angel is a weakpoint in the show? |
It's a great song and a great scene for a Frankie to really show off some heart-wrenching acting abilities. I like it more now that I've seen the show, but I still think all the scenes where characters are not aware they're singing are not as strong as the ones where they are.
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Ronnie-O 139306
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I'm 13 and I love the songs.
I'm thinking that famous Itailan actors like Joe Pesci and Robert De Niro and even the real 4 Seasosn should make cameo appearances. They did that in the Hairspray film with some of the actors from the original Hairspray film. I think that's what they could do if there's ever gonna be a JB film.
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hippo2002
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Good news for me!
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Brock07
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Lets try to think of the musicals with the original casts....
1. Rent
2. The Producers
(I can think of them because they are recent)
I know Vivian Blain was in the original Guys and Dolls cast...
What else is there?
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Monsieur D'Arque
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Look at "Ray." "Ray" is a meta-musical, very much along the lines of "Jersey Boys."
The songs used as narration could be used as underscore to the scene, with performance footage interspersed with the actual scene, a la "Chicago."
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Broadwaybabe1991
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How many times do movie musicals even compare to the original.
Plain and simple. 9.99 times out of 10...they don't. It takes away from the magic. It helps people who are not fortunate enough to see the real thing but they are not getting a good enough version to appreciate the magic and wonder a musical can bring. It is a slap in the face to every good musical. I've heard talks of an Aida, Jersey Boys, and Wicked movie. I'll be mad if they make an Aida or Jersey Boys one. I'll be discusted if they make a Wicked movie. How do you make that a movie anyway??? It defeats the purpose.
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audreydarling
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i don't mind movie musical in general.. there is a movie of most musicals but i think now they are making them too fast. they need to give the show a good run first  I definitely think jersey boys would have to be the original cast or at least broadway performers..the music and the blend is just too demanding...but I also think all these biopics are getting old right now. they need to just wait on this one and think of some creative ideas for themselves. In general I would like to see something innovative. Even sweeny was ok because they maximized the use of it being on film whereas hairspray and mamma mia were slightly flat though I loved loved loved most of the cast.
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Disney-Bway27
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| Broadwaybabe1991 wrote: | How many times do movie musicals even compare to the original.
Plain and simple. 9.99 times out of 10...they don't. It takes away from the magic. It helps people who are not fortunate enough to see the real thing but they are not getting a good enough version to appreciate the magic and wonder a musical can bring. It is a slap in the face to every good musical. I've heard talks of an Aida, Jersey Boys, and Wicked movie. I'll be mad if they make an Aida or Jersey Boys one. I'll be discusted if they make a Wicked movie. How do you make that a movie anyway??? It defeats the purpose. |
What a wonderful use of a first post.
You get mad about a movie based on Aida, Jersey Boys, and Wicked, boo hoo. You have absolutely no say in the matter. Keep in mind, I'm not justifying the creating of an Aida movie-musical (heaven forbid), I'm just reminding you of the obvious. A Jersey Boys movie could be sh*t on tape and it would still draw an insane crowd just because it's Frankie Valli. One person doesn't go because they don't believe in movie-musicals, it really wouldn't hurt the film's income much at all.
Anyway, in this case, were they to make a movie, the original cast, I believe, would be the way to go. There aren't many people who can imitate Valli as well as John Lloyd Young did, and the other members of the Four Seasons (mainly Bob Gaudio) were all fantastic in their roles.
Jersey Boys COULD work out on film...only if its done right. Making a movie based on a musical at all is tricky, but it's a helluva lot trickier making a movie based on a musical revue. How do you go about it? Jersey Boys would have to be very, VERY carefully done, or it'd fall flat on its face...it's as simple as that.
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The Very Angry Woman
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| audreydarling wrote: | | i don't mind movie musical in general.. there is a movie of most musicals but i think now they are making them too fast. they need to give the show a good run first I definitely think jersey boys would have to be the original cast or at least broadway performers..the music and the blend is just too demanding...but I also think all these biopics are getting old right now. they need to just wait on this one and think of some creative ideas for themselves. |
You can't have it both ways. Do you want to use a geriatric John Lloyd Young and a Christian Hoff who probably would (legitimately) injure his foot during filming for the novelty of having the original cast on film, or do you want Jersey Boys to play out the long run it deserves?
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audreydarling
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i would much rather it play out a long run...but if they have to make a movie now I would rather them use the original cast.
if they hold off...using other broadway performers would be ideal. somehow they figured it out with rent! but perhaps if the movie hadn't been made the run would have been longer.
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Monsieur D'Arque
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All of you "theater people" have to decide. Are we an inclusive, or an exclusive culture. Do we want the public to accept, embrace and return to the musical as a valid and popular form of entertainment, in all of its forms, be it stage, screen or television?
Or, on the other hand, would you rather we become an exclusive niche culture, in which only the "deserving" should be able to enjoy a musical, or those able to go to New York and see it onstage? If many people like Sweeney Todd or Rent because they saw the movie, how does that take away from our own experience?
I, for one, welcome this new advent of popularity in the musicals. If you look back at history, movie musicals made up a huge demographic during the first half of the 20th century, but faded away in the second. Now, in this new century, their popularity is resurging. Is that a bad thing for us? No! It's not! How the hell could it be?
But really, the decision is up to you. Do we want more people, or would they not be "good enough" or "hardcore enough" to be musical fans?
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erinmylungs
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I agree with Monsieur. I think it's great that musical theatre is getting exposure. It'll only expand. I would welcome a Jersey Boys musical. It is one of the best musicals I've seen on stage. I enjoyed it thoroughly and I'm only 18. The music is so catchy and well, I've always liked music of the 50's and 60's. I'd love to see a movie version. None of the songs got old. The second act was as good as the first one. Sometimes the second act gets boring after a long first act. I was enjoying myself the entire time. I'm sure they could make a great movie without cutting really anything. (:
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