beck
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JCS -tenor partsMy school is doing JCS this year, its my senior year. We're doing it modernized, and some tenor roles, such as Annas or Simon Zealotes, are going to be changed into female roles. (Judas is not going to be changed into a female role). I'll be auditioning for Mary and one tenor role. I'm not extremely familiar with the show, so I was wondering which tenor role is the largest. I've been told Annas is. Those of you who are very familiar with the show, can you throw me some info?
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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Well, if Jesus and Judas are out of the question, then I'd go with Annas. His highest note is a Top-C.
Judas goes to Top-C as well, and his lowest note is Low-D (I think). Judas is an intense role, and has damaged several voices over the years. 
Jesus uses the widest range all the way up to a High-G.
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beck
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Yeah Jesus and Judas are most definatly not going to be female roles. We've got two boys perfect for the roles. We did Les Miz last year, our Javert will be Jesus, and Valjean will be Judas.
But anyway, so yeah, I was thinking Annas would be the best choice to go for, along with Mary. A part of me want to be Simon though..but thats just because I love his song, and when he's like "FOR EVER AND EVER AND EVERRRRRRR" I loveeee it. Oh well, but thanks for the tip.
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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Simon goes up to a High-A with an optional High-G at the end.
You shouldn't have any problems with the tenor roles.
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Jekkienumber24601
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Wow Javert playing jesus, must make a pretty bad jesus or a bad javert cause those vocal ranges are complete opposites of the spectrum. But hey if this dude can hit the high note in gethsenme and "you'll wear a different chain" in Confrontation then he truly is the son of god.
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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| Jekkienumber24601 wrote: | | Wow Javert playing jesus, must make a pretty bad jesus or a bad javert cause those vocal ranges are complete opposites of the spectrum. But hey if this dude can hit the high note in gethsenme and "you'll wear a different chain" in Confrontation then he truly is the son of god. |
I can do that.
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beck
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| Jekkienumber24601 wrote: | | Wow Javert playing jesus, must make a pretty bad jesus or a bad javert cause those vocal ranges are complete opposites of the spectrum. But hey if this dude can hit the high note in gethsenme and "you'll wear a different chain" in Confrontation then he truly is the son of god. |
Well our Javert (Cale) can actually sing higher than our Valjean (Matt) can. Either of them could have switched up in terms of vocal ranges, they could have both done it. But in terms of characterization, Cale fit into Javert perfectly, and as did Matt for Valjean. Both are very talented, and again, either could play Jesus or Judas, its about how we want to put across each character.
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beck
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| Lazarus (Adam G) wrote: | Simon goes up to a High-A with an optional High-G at the end.
You shouldn't have any problems with the tenor roles. |
I'm absolutely not worried about range whatsoever. I just want the largest role possible for my senior year. Hah
So in order to achieve that, having only female roles and tenor roles (not including Jesus and Judas) to audition for, I've come to the decision to audition for Mary and Annas. I'm just wondering if thats the wisest idea.
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HeroTheBishop
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Go for Annas. I was recently Caiaphas and being a priest is really fun.
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beck
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I asked Cale today about who's a larger role, Annas or Simon, he's like a JCS pro. Anyway, he said that Annas has more singing spread out and no one song of his own, and that Simon has his song (Simon Zealotes) and alot of being in scenes and not saying anything.
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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| beck wrote: | | I asked Cale today about who's a larger role, Annas or Simon, he's like a JCS pro. Anyway, he said that Annas has more singing spread out and no one song of his own, and that Simon has his song (Simon Zealotes) and alot of being in scenes and not saying anything. |
Simon has one solo. The rest of the time, he's in the chorus.
In my opinion, Annas is more of a fun character to play; he's a sinster, manipulitive villian.
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Brother Marvin Hinten, S.
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You mean a sinister, manipulative villain?
Your lysdexia is acting up again.
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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| Brother Marvin Hinten, S. wrote: | You mean a sinister, manipulative villain?
Your lysdexia is acting up again. |
Dont meke fun of my dizabilfitey.
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beck
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| Lazarus (Adam G) wrote: | | Brother Marvin Hinten, S. wrote: | You mean a sinister, manipulative villain?
Your lysdexia is acting up again. |
Dont meke fun of my dizabilfitey. |
isnt it called dislexia? not lysdexia? whatttttt?
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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No, I just don't care much for spelling on the internet, and most of the time, I look like an idiot.
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beck
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hahah allllllright then. 
but back to JCS, auditions arnt untill arounddd Nov. 16 or something like that. I have a while to decide what i'm auditioning for. but i think i'll probably be going for mary and annas. the directors said that pilote might also become a girl part. so i'll be listening to some of his stuff for a while and decide if i want that more.
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jcstar
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| Lazarus (Adam G) wrote: | | No, I just don't care much for spelling on the internet, and most of the time, I look like an idiot. |
Ummm... no comment.
Andy.
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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| jcstar wrote: | | Lazarus (Adam G) wrote: | | No, I just don't care much for spelling on the internet, and most of the time, I look like an idiot. |
Ummm... no comment.
Andy. |
No comment on your no comment.
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beck
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....riiiiiight, back to JCS anybody?
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beck
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So now the roles being considered for female roles are as follows:
Annas
Pilate
Simon
King Harod
I really want Mary..ofcourse, but we have to audition for two roles if you want a lead, like I said before. So, Annas or Pilate? What part is bigger? Better??
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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Pilate is much bigger and much more important than Annas; for Christ's sake, he pretty much KILLED Christ!
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jcstar
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| beck wrote: | So now the roles being considered for female roles are as follows:
Annas
Pilate
Simon
King Harod |
NO
NO
NO
NO
If you don't have guys to fill all the male roles in the show...
PLEASE DO NOT DO JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR!!!!!!
**smahes head against brick wall 39 times**
Andy.
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jcstar
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| Lazarus (Adam G) wrote: | | Pilate is much bigger and much more important than Annas; for Christ's sake, he pretty much KILLED Christ! |
Um, Laz...
"I wash my hands of your demolition!"
Pilate is innocent of the death of Christ. The Romans were just following orders.
Andy.
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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| jcstar wrote: | | Lazarus (Adam G) wrote: | | Pilate is much bigger and much more important than Annas; for Christ's sake, he pretty much KILLED Christ! |
Um, Laz...
"I wash my hands of your demolition!"
Pilate is innocent of the death of Christ. The Romans were just following orders.
Andy. |
Regardless, he let Christ die.
That doesn't mean he's guilty...but Annas didn't have the power to put Christ to death.
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beck
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| jcstar wrote: | | beck wrote: | So now the roles being considered for female roles are as follows:
Annas
Pilate
Simon
King Harod |
NO
NO
NO
NO
If you don't have guys to fill all the male roles in the show...
PLEASE DO NOT DO JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR!!!!!!
**smahes head against brick wall 39 times**
Andy. |
I agree with you. We dont have enough guys to fill the male roles in JCS, and we have a bunch of girls who wont get a female role that they deserve (*cough*ME*cough*) Its so stupid. I think the directors made a hugggee mistake, on top of the fact that I don't believe that JCS is appropriate for a school environment. BUT, in spite of my opinions, the show will go on. So, because I have no choice. I have to pick a male role to audition for, along with Mary. So, Pilate, or Annas?
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Jekkienumber24601
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Your director is stupid. But if I had to choose two to pick between it would be Annas or Simon not Pilate. Implore your director to hire someone who's a guy/baritone to come in and do Pilate.
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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| Jekkienumber24601 wrote: | | Your director is stupid. But if I had to choose two to pick between it would be Annas or Simon not Pilate. Implore your director to hire someone who's a guy/baritone to come in and do Pilate. |
That's true; a baritone could pull off Pilate. His highest note is a B (or is it Bb?). Some really talented bass singers can pull Pilate off as well.
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Jekkienumber24601
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Actually a braitone can pull of Simon too. A High G should be a requirement for most male singers who are baritone. And the G is only optional. Annas is the only one who justify's being a girl Herod can be a bass! I know you have enough guys. You couldn't have done Les Mis without at least 15 guys. I mean who was your Enjorlas? he can easily do Simon or Pilate!
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beck
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| Jekkienumber24601 wrote: | | Actually a braitone can pull of Simon too. A High G should be a requirement for most male singers who are baritone. And the G is only optional. Annas is the only one who justify's being a girl Herod can be a bass! I know you have enough guys. You couldn't have done Les Mis without at least 15 guys. I mean who was your Enjorlas? he can easily do Simon or Pilate! |
Actually, alot of grade 12s were leads last year for Les Mis, and they're not around anymore. Enjorlras and Marius are gone. So we've got Thenardier, Valjean and Javert left. You said we couldn't have done Les Miz without at least 15 guys..well the guys who played supporting roles are definatly not strong enough for most of the leads in JCS.
Anyway, everyone keeps going on about how Pilate and Harod and even Simon could be pulled off as baritones..I guess you guys didnt read the first post I made...we dont have enough guys for those roles and alot of talented girls are left in the dust with nothing. So, Pilate and Annas WILL be turned into female roles. As for Simon and Harod, well, those are maybes.
Oh, and also, we're not allowd to hire other actors to come in for us. You have to be a student at our school to perform. Unless we need child actors.
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Master Thespian
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Pilate, definitely Pilate
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beck
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my audition is this thursday night. going for Mary and Pilate. now i need to find a monologue for my audition. i want it to be really sad so i can cry. i've got a couple i'm deciding between, but i want more options..anyone have any suggestions?
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jcstar
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A monologue for a JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR audition?! That's lunacy!
It's an OPERA, people! Why not just sing and dance and then wait for the call?
(directrs!  )
Andy.
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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It's actually quite smart.
The singers have to be actors, too.
Showing off dramatic skill is just as important as the vocal part.
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jcstar
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Yes, but I just don't unbderstand doing a monologue for JCS.
Here's an idea, recite "Pilate's Dream."
Andy.
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beck
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hmm..thats interesting. but i dont think i want to do that. i'm auditioning for pilate, but i dont want him. i want mary. but i have to audition for two leads if i'm going for a lead.
And yeah, even though JCS is an opera/etta (i'm not sure which it is classified as), its not all about singing. same with Les Miz, or Phantom. If all you can do is sing, your not very interesting to look at.
ANyyyyyhooo. Audition tomorrow night at 10pm. go meee
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Lazarus (Adam G)
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Good luck!
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Jesus
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| Quote: | | And yeah, even though JCS is an opera/etta (i'm not sure which it is classified as), its not all about singing. same with Les Miz, or Phantom. If all you can do is sing, your not very interesting to look at. |
First, it's a Rock Opera. Secondly, if at an audition all you do is sing, then you certainly shouldn't get the part, and if in a musical, all you're proficient at is acting, you shouldn't be cast. It's about a synthesis of the two. Many people can do one and the other, but doing them at the same time is a special skill either gifted as talent, or earned through hard work. Having the actor's perform a monologue in addition to a song seems redundant. If they can't act while singing their audition piece, but can do so when not singing...well what use is that in a show comprised of nothing but singing? It seems foolish from my perspective...that of an experienced director.
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beck
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Although I'm not an "experienced director", I'm also aware that to be cast as a lead, you should be able to act while singing, and also act alone. That's obvious. And those are the requirements for gaining a lead in our shows. But you have to remember that this is not a professional performance company, it's a high school. And your choice of talent is fairly slim. So, whether you like it or not, students who are stronger at singing than acting, or vice versa, are going to be cast, because we need them to fill supporting roles. Therefore, we must audition with a monologue aswell as two songs. That way, the directors can thoroughly clarify between Actors, Singers, or Acting Singers.
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beck
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I dont know if anyone cares, but I'm going to tell you anyway! Haha, so my audition was thursday night. It went well. I sang Pilates Dream and I Don't Know How To Love Him, and I did a sad monologue that made all three directors cry!  Anyway, I got a callback for King Harod and Pilate, so I'll be doing my second audition next tuesday night, and we'll see what happens next wednsday when the final list goes up.
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Beagle On Stage
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I know this thread is ancient history now, but I wanted to say I totally feel for you having your senior year with tons of girls and doing the worst possible show for a bunch of ladies. In my school's theatre department, we had an EXTREMELY strong class of 7 or 8 "main" ladies who rocked everything the whole time they were there and were awesome. Then suddenly when they were seniors, the director decided to do "Dreamcoat." So two girls shared the one female role, one girl was Mrs. Potiphar for two minutes, and the others had to be either in the chorus, or dressed as men. 
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beck
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Wow, thats truley tragic! Haha, honestly, that's worse than my situation. I feel bad for those girls. And even worse for the rest of the girls who were left out.
I also know that this thread is ancient history too, but I figure I might as well tell you all that I got the part of Herod. Rehearsals start soon. I'm excited
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