Mistolover127
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Is anyone out ther obsessed with CAts?Is there anyone out there is is obsessed about Jacob Brent/Cats/Mr. Mistoffelees/Quaxo?  I need someone to talk to about this!  All my friends are getting annoyed about my obsession!  Please post replys!And as for my thread beeing a TEENY-BOPPER THREAD i AM in my early teens so that would make sense!K,L8R!
P.S I would like to give a shout out to my friend Megan M. who has always stuck by me no matter what! Even if I am OBSSED with Jacob Brent/Cats/Mr. Mistoffelees/Quaxo!LUV YA MEG!
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RainyCrystal
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um... i think one of the biggest reasons that brings so many of us together to this forum is the obsession w/ Cats.  if none of us are obsessed, then why are we all spending our time here? 
and i think you certainly aren't the only one who's been through the situation. even my own dad is getting "annoyed" w/ my obsession, and i'm not even mentioning all the trashings that i've gone through on musicals.net itself just for "liking" Cats, not even speaking of "being obsessed with".
and to answer your question, yes, i'm very fond of Jacob Brent, and Mistoffelees is definitely one of my all-time favorite characters from Cats.
~Sissi
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GlamorousGriz
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*Cheno-squeal*
But I do think that the leaps and jumps in the "Misto" song would have been far more impressive if he were taller.
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griddlebone_girl
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me obsess with Cats, never...ok thats a huge lie. Cats is my number one obsession, and i'm an obsessive person anyway.
But...don't kill me but Misto is my least favorite character, something about him annoys me. I know i'm probably the only Cats fan who dosn't like him but there you go. So as you can guess Jacob Brent isn't my favorite of all people
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RainyCrystal
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| GlamorousGriz wrote: | *Cheno-squeal*
But I do think that the leaps and jumps in the "Misto" song would have been far more impressive if he were taller. |
if he were taller, then he wouldn't be able to do those at all.
all the actors who get this role must be ballet dancers, and Jacob Brent is already one of the tallest ones out there. trust me, no ballet dancers can ever be tall if they can become ballet dancers in the first place.
~Sissi
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Stargazer
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| griddlebone_girl wrote: | me obsess with Cats, never...ok thats a huge lie. Cats is my number one obsession, and i'm an obsessive person anyway.
But...don't kill me but Misto is my least favorite character, something about him annoys me. I know i'm probably the only Cats fan who dosn't like him but there you go. So as you can guess Jacob Brent isn't my favorite of all people |
DOn't worry sweetie, there are others who don't like Mistoffelees. You probably didn't have a good first viewing or maybe because of all the hype around him. I know I never really liked Cassandra because of how she was played in the video... still don't really like her... lol.
Obsessed... No, Used to be but not any more. I've grown a lot since 2000 and I've seen quite a few musicals since then and I usually obsess over a show I've been in for a couple weeks after its finished... (so far I have yet to be in a bad production so I haven't hated anything I've been in yet) So CATS obsession no more... lol.
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GlamorousGriz
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| RainyCrystal wrote: | | GlamorousGriz wrote: | *Cheno-squeal*
But I do think that the leaps and jumps in the "Misto" song would have been far more impressive if he were taller. |
if he were taller, then he wouldn't be able to do those at all.
all the actors who get this role must be ballet dancers, and Jacob Brent is already one of the tallest ones out there. trust me, no ballet dancers can ever be tall if they can become ballet dancers in the first place.
~Sissi |
I'm not saying 6 foot 5... I just mean like another one or two inches... but good point about male ballet dancers though.
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RainyCrystal
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| GlamorousGriz wrote: |
I'm not saying 6 foot 5... I just mean like another one or two inches... but good point about male ballet dancers though. |
another *one* inch MIGHT be ok... but i'd say probably not two. Jacob i know is 5'6'', and that's already considered like... huge in the ballet world. 5'8'' would be too tall for even a male ballet dancer. i mean, i'm 5'8'', but i'm already having enough trouble w/ the leapes and the jump-spins because of the weight of my body and legs. and consider guys do a lot more of those than girls, and they naturally weigh more, i think they're better off staying shorter... lol! and if you think Jacob is short, then you would probably want to give some of the other Mistoffeleeses a big hug of sympathy when you see them...
~Sissi
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jacob502
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| RainyCrystal wrote: | | i mean, i'm 5'8'', but i'm already having enough trouble w/ the leapes and the jump-spins because of the weight of my body and legs. and consider guys do a lot more of those than girls, and they naturally weigh more, i think they're better off staying shorter... lol! |
Completely wrong. Just because a man is taller doesn't mean he can't dance. I myself am a dancer, I'm shorter, but I know plenty of male dancers well over 5'6" and they're incredible. Everything in ballet is lengthened and when a tall person dances it's amazing. Just recently I saw a tallish Mistoffelees perform and he did a great job. As long as you have control and a decent technique you won't fall all over the place, it depends on the person's strength, not necessarily their height or weight.
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RainyCrystal
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i'm not saying that just because a guy's tall then he CAN'T dance. i'm saying that the taller ones would have more difficulties than the shorter ones, because their bodies are heavier. my mother and i are both dancers, and my mother can move a lot more easily and make the jumps a lot lighter because she's 5'1'' as opposed to me. she can jump for a long time and be as light as a feather, but if i jump for a long time, not only will i seem heavier, i get exhaused a lot quicker than her, too. i always consider it a curse to be tall because i want to dance...
~Sissi
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jacob502
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Well, technically you did say they can't be tall and be ballet dancers. I don't want to argue with you, though, it's so dumb.
Jacob Brent is awful.
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*asterix*
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on the subject of taller male dancers and their abilities to move impressively...
Afair, a favourite past Mistoffelees for several, Julius Sermonia (tour IV, Broadway), is about 5'10" (or at least that's my estimate of my 15 year old self standing next to him, shoulder for shoulder and eye to eye, on a couple occasions) . That man could MOVE. Still the most impressed I've been of a mistoffelees perfomance all-round, incl. vocals, dance ability, flexibility and acrobatics. He recalled to me that there had been some worry over his casting - he had wowed the CATS recruiters on tour with his dancing, flexible skill set, and willingness to push himself and learn for the part, but his height had almost cost him the role. Almost. But not, yay 
There *is* a height ceiling on casting Mistoffelees, or their was... I'm pretty sure 5'10" is it.
And if you want further CATS-specific proof of taller guys pulling some amazing acrobatics, just look at many of the boys brought in to play Plato, and the taller Tumblebrutuses - these are generally rolls that go to taller, athletic men with a strong dance and gymnastic background, or at least those insane enough to try anything once (... and then however many more times to get it down pat ). n/m what some Alonzos, hopefully taller guys (sometimes not so much :-/ it's a sore day when your "tough guy" is out-heighted, possibly out-muscled, by several queens... but it happens) are made to pull off against Macavity. True, they are heavier, and many of the acrobatics are not quite as delicate or nuanced as the Mistoffelees moves, butthese bigger guys with their (usually) well muscled, long legs can certainly get an impressive amount of aerial space. There also hasn't been a complete NO on taller mungojerries, another acrobatic character, though they do seem quite rare.
as a last note, though, I will aknowledge that *good* tall male dancers are a rarity in general, in my experience, simply because their don't seem to be many inclined toward it in the first place. Boys generally start dance later in life (early-late teens, according to most I've talked to) vs. a lot of girls who start quite young (my mother enrolled me at the local academy when I was four). By this point there is generally a good idea of what their body type is and may be suited to, and most guys I know in dance came upon it as an after thought, a passing interest that grew. They were interested in other stuff first, and the taller, ideally built bodies that make for good tall male dancers generally get picked off first by swimmers, gymnasts, etc, and the focus strays from something we'd ever get to see on a theatre stage. The smaller guys immediately find themselves in a world of, well, smaller girls, and usually MANY smaller girls to every one smallish guy. Think teenager, think this may be a perk. It certainly seemed to be among our principal male dancers when I was still at the academy.
but a thought to chew on: many of the aknowkedged prima ballerinas are tall women (eg: Karen Kain, 5'7") and while it is an unfortunate sight to sometimes see them opposite a male lead looking decidedly shrimpy, the industry does generally strive to provide these ladies with counterparts their match or (ideally) at least a little taller, for a prime visual effect. And so it goes that taller male dancers are not entirely out of demand
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griddlebone_girl
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| Stargazer wrote: | | griddlebone_girl wrote: | me obsess with Cats, never...ok thats a huge lie. Cats is my number one obsession, and i'm an obsessive person anyway.
But...don't kill me but Misto is my least favorite character, something about him annoys me. I know i'm probably the only Cats fan who dosn't like him but there you go. So as you can guess Jacob Brent isn't my favorite of all people |
DOn't worry sweetie, there are others who don't like Mistoffelees. You probably didn't have a good first viewing or maybe because of all the hype around him. I know I never really liked Cassandra because of how she was played in the video... still don't really like her... lol.
Obsessed... No, Used to be but not any more. I've grown a lot since 2000 and I've seen quite a few musicals since then and I usually obsess over a show I've been in for a couple weeks after its finished... (so far I have yet to be in a bad production so I haven't hated anything I've been in yet) So CATS obsession no more... lol. |
My first viewing was the video, but i've seen Cats live twice and i'll admit that Mistoffelees was played amazingly well, i think it's the hype that got to me
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Mungostoffelees
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I couldn't vote as I cannot stand Jacob Brent. I dislike his acting, he is a lazy live dancer on stage, and an extremely rude arrogant and foul person to meet.
I really cannot be bothered to go into the discussion of why and people suggesting 'maybe he was just having a bad day', because in that case he obviously had about 30 bad days or more.
Yuk.
XX.Stoffey.XX
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*Musical_Meggy*
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now Guy-Paul he is a good Misto!
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Akeyla
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ohkay.
Xingiera and moi at the backstage door NLT chatting with Leon.
Some guy rushes by and runs up the stairs.
Xingiera: wasnt that brent?
me: who?
Xingiera: JB, video misto?
me: uhm, maybe?
Xingiera: erm, were we supposed to fantard?
me: ? wanna run after him?
Xingiera: uhm, no.
Brent did fine in the video, but there are actors I prefer way more than him.
And no, I am not gonna die to have his signature, neither do I push the pause button when his focus in the video shows up. Personal opinion. I think I'm overly sick of the constant focusing on his grin in the video. Again, personal opinion.
On the other hand I am also the fan that gets pissed off because instead of getting to pet Munkustrap I got to dance with JP.
Yes, you can be obsessed by CATS without a Brent, and there are other hot persons in spandex
greets
Aky
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Elphaba22
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This is an old thread but I just found it, and Mungostoffelees, Jacob Brent was my director when I was in Rent, and he was very pleasant to work with, and a wonderful friend. He was supportive and encouraging, and a brilliant director that expects hard work from everyone. He's one of the best and nicest directors I've ever had. He is definitely not rude/arrogant/foul.
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Quaxo!
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Well, It's not old anymore! Now that it's been bumped up again  Glad you did find it, because I'm too lazy to search through all the pages for an interesting topic. I am Totally Obsessed with Cats, and one thing that makes it worse, is that I am a very vocal person when it comes to an obsession. So let's see, Vocal + Musical play such as Cats = LOTS OF SINGING!!! I am almost always heard singing or humming some song from Cats, and my brother Hates good music, so He can't stand me. Luckily for me, He is renting an apartment soon, so He won't take up space in the house anymore.
About Jacob Brent, He is my idol. It used to be John Partridge, but then I learned that he was gay... Suddenly I didn't want to be a whole lot like him. Tugger is still my Favorite Character, but he's closely followed by Misto. I've never had the chance to meet any of these people, though, so I wouldn't know a thing about their personalities. Since I started taking ballet, I pay more attention to Misto. The way he carries himself, and so on.
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Mungojerrie_rt
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I don't like the film Misto. He's too much of a sissy. Mistoffelees should be darker character, not so la-di-da.
The name comes from the demonic Mephistophelees, so being a cirpy little kit doesn't work.
Good Mistoffeleeses:
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Alonza0
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Sorry, not a huge Jacob Brent fan. And out of make-up I don't find him very attractive. My favorite Mistoffelees? Timothy Scott. Now and forever. RIP
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Mungojerrie_rt
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I don't like Timothy Scott's singing.
David Atkins, Wayne Sleep, Oliver Toth, Paul Porter and Mark John Richardson all sing better.
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Moongewl
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| Mungojerrie_rt wrote: | I don't like the film Misto. He's too much of a sissy. Mistoffelees should be darker character, not so la-di-da.
The name comes from the demonic Mephistophelees, so being a cirpy little kit doesn't work. |
By that reasoning, Pouncival should be very pure and knightly, since the name comes from Percival, a knight of King Arthur's Round Table. And Sillabub should be both silly and evil(since her name is a portmanteau of "silly" and "beelzebub").
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Mungojerrie_rt
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| Moongewl wrote: | | Mungojerrie_rt wrote: | I don't like the film Misto. He's too much of a sissy. Mistoffelees should be darker character, not so la-di-da.
The name comes from the demonic Mephistophelees, so being a cirpy little kit doesn't work. |
By that reasoning, Pouncival should be very pure and knightly, since the name comes from Percival, a knight of King Arthur's Round Table. And Sillabub should be both silly and evil(since her name is a portmanteau of "silly" and "beelzebub"). |
I think Pouncival works better as a tryhard. He tries to be the dashing hero like Percival, but in the end is always just Pounce.
Sillabub often does have that mischivious side to her. That silly spunk like all of the kittens. She can be what would be called a "little Devil."
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Moongewl
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So wait, Sillabub doesn't have to be demonic, but Mistoffelees does? They're both named after demons closely associated with Satan.
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Mungojerrie_rt
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Because Sillabub has silly as well, which works to tone her down. Plus she is based off Jemima, so her name really as no effect. Why they changed it I don't know.
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Moongewl
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I'm just saying, if your criteria is naming, then Sillabub should have the same requirement as Misto so far as demonic-ness is concerned. Now me, I think Misto's personality should be based more on what the poem says about him.
As for the Jemima-Sillabub name change, it's because of cultural connotations. "Jemima" here is associated with Aunt Jemima, a term used for black women in service to whites. So they used the name Sillabub here to avoid any offense.
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Mungojerrie_rt
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Well, the poem says "vague and aloof," which again seems more like a darker character than what is on the film.
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Moongewl
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I'm not sure how you get "dark" from "vague and aloof." I think it suggests he's supposed to be shy around other cats and distant from humans.
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Mungojerrie_rt
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I certainly get dark more than I get "Ooh, look at me!"
Vague and aloof makes him less connected with the others and more likely to be cold. If they had left the dancing in it would have helped. They left the prancy bits be removed all of the more prideful dancing. Which is better anyway.
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