[Howdy Doody II]

To keep things on topic, I think we should talk about some of the dos and don'ts of fashion.

After all, so many of us ARE performers and it's important to put our best foot forward.

So come on, kiddies, let's play Stacy and Clinton and remind M.Net of WHAT NOT TO WEAR



I'll start

-Nail art (especially with jewels)
-overalls

[PatrickDennis]

stripes and plaid look really bad

[Chevstriss]

White shoes before Memorial Day or after Labor Day.

Shoes paler then your hem.

Hose darker than your shoes.

A hat w/ a brim after sunset.

A necklace w/ a beaded bodice gown.

[PatrickDennis]

cat costumes

[Fontinau]

[Piece of crap]

- Never waer anything that isn't the same color as your gallblade.

[bandcampgirl183]

My mom always told me that long sleeves and shorts don't go together.

I've never liked the combination of orange and red.

Black sneakers and shorts aren't exactly a match made in heaven.

~rachel~

[Chevstriss]

Shorts in public is pretty much a fashion no no. Unless you're at cheerleader practice.

[bandcampgirl183]

[Chevstriss]

[Fontinau]

[Caitlin (Pipes)]

It's not so much the factor of shorts being a problem, but it's the notion of "too short shorts." The booty shorts are disgusting.

Actually, sometimes capris and sundresses are much cooler in hot weather.

One of my number one fashion rules is velvet can only be worn November-February.

I second all of Chevstriss' rules on white shoes before Memorial Day and after Labor Day, but white summer pants and summer skirts also apply.

[bandcampgirl183]

[Howdy Doody II]

If I were allowed to pass on messages from SHE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED I would tell you that she says that she is a short, brunette, with pale skin and she LIVES in Lilly capris from May to September

But I am not allowed to

[purplepolkadot]

Sandals with socks.....anytime.

Work out clothes in public. (other than the gym of course)

Overalls when your past the age of 10

Pink and red together

Nylons that don't match your skin tone

[frizzball724]

My pre-calculus teacher used to wear socks under her nylons, sneakers with her skirt, and her belt on the outside of her shirt.

Although she was insane. She got fired for being crazy.

[bandcampgirl183]

Foundation that doesn't match your skin tone, so it turns orange and you look like a pumpkin.

~rachel~

[dramaqueen220222]

-Socks with sandals or any other kind of open-toed shoes

-Suits and sneakers. I don't care if it's a 10-block walk to your office. They're called flats.

-Brown and black.

-Makeup that uses colors you would never find in nature. Just wearing a lot of makeup in general. Natural beauty, girls, natural beauty.

-Wearing jeans with a jean jacket or shirt.

-Permed hair, crimped hair, hair that's been straightened within an inch of it's life

-Orange skin.

[Harmonia_G]

White socks with black pants

Shirts that say such things as "Princess," "Sexy," or "Boy Crazy" (just examples, there are many others)

Clothes that don't fit

Shirts that say such things as "Bye Bye Birdie," "The Sound of Music," or "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat," with a complete cast and crew list on the back (just kidding... I'm even wearing such as shirt right now).

[Sairin]

My favourites:

Velour tracksuits
Horizontal stripes if you are large (it *does* make a difference)
Any shorts in any form
Yellow (unless you're tanned or dark skinned)

[Chevstriss]

why capris are cooler than shorts:

You don't share thigh sweat w/ strangers on public seating.

[Chevstriss]

[nat915]

Any jeans that are so low waisted that they display your underwear = not attractive. I hate when people wear clothes that are too big for them. Fitted clothes are generally flattering. Huge clothing is never flattering.

[Nudelkopf]

[!TheWorld'sMyStage!]

- green and purple together. I just don't like it.
- pink and red together. Unless it is Valentine's Day
- so much makeup that you can't see their face
- socks with sandels
- gigantic sweatshirts. I love sweatshirts (especially hoodie sweatshirts) but I hate it when a skinny girl is drowning in a huge sweatshirt. I second the motion that fitted stuff is normally better.

I really don't mind short shorts when its really hot.

!The World's My Stage!

[Nudelkopf]

Stripes. I'm against them in any form, horizontal or vertical.

[lineyjoe]

*Ugg boots and miniskirts, especially in the winter
*Ugg boots in general
*Velour sweatsuits. I love how the richest girls in the school, instead of spending their money on good clothes, spend $500 on sweatsuits for "instant fashion". Yuck.
*Too much denim.
*People who wear denim to see a professional play.
*Purses with the company logo plastered all over them

[nat915]

[Nudelkopf]

Stripes are just yuck. I don't need an explanation, but I think I'll give on anyway. On my last trip to Australia I noticed that stripes were popular. These "golfy" pants were just hideous.

But I do have to agree, stripes are OK on some people. Not all, and definitly not most. But OK. Oh no, I just said stripes were OK. Eeek.

[lineyjoe]

Striped pants can be very flattering. But once you get to the "butt" area, they can look very awkward because often the stripes don't match up or make your behind look like a triangle.

[dramaqueen220222]

[nat915]

^ I always dress up for the theatre. It's part of the experience.

[Kragey]

I can't stand real animal fur, especially when it gets wet. Women come in to the grocery store wearing fur coats after walking around in the rain, and it just smells AWFUL.

[dramaqueen220222]

[Kragey]

[LaurelDP]

[purplepolkadot]

Or any type of animal form.

And I like gigantic sweatshirts. THey are more comfortable.

[Pasty]

The dreaded popped collar.

Depends on the person though. Some people (few) can look decent with it, most look like 'omfg frat boyz'!

[Timmerbo]

Racoon hats, specifically the ones with the racoon's face taxadermized and placed at the front of the hat, are creepy, and look vaguely like some costume piece rejected from the Broadway production of The Lion King.

[Forest Fairy]

-love handles popping over the sides of jeans
-mini-skirts in the winter
-skirts and runners/skate shoes
-the dreaded valour track suit (specificly in neon pink)
-faux punk (if your paying more then thrift store prices or it has a designer lable it's not punk)

I do however think that you can get away with jeans to the theatre. I've gone in dark jeans, with heels, a fancy top, and blazor and i think it's fine, on the casual side yes, but it works in a bind.

[Kragey]

[wicked_diva]

^That's me as well. It's especially hard for me to find nice pants that aren't jeans, so I wear dark washed jeans with a button-up shirt and blazer, generally. Or possibly a skirt and nice shirt and blazer.

But as for fashion don'ts:
-pants that go in at the bottom
-pjs in public
-shirts that show stomach
-too tight jeans
-showing thongs (eww!)
-Hollister anything, or most anything that says the name brand
-and I concur about uggs and mini skirts. That was a huge problem at my school last year, though it seems to have toned down so far this winter

[Forest Fairy]

[quote="wicked_diva"]
-Hollister anything, or most anything that says the name brand
[/quote]

a little o/t but i work in a pharmacy and the brand of Ostomy supplies we carry is called "Hollister" (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ostomy) needless to say i was a wee bit confused when i noticed a bunch of popular girls at my school wearing "Hollister" clothing

And i totally agree with the name brand thing, it's like your paying a company so that you can advertise for them.

[wicked_diva]

[Nudelkopf]

[bandcampgirl183]

Stripes.. what if your chest could use some MORE and your stomach can use some LESS?

jeans with holes. I feel really bad because right now I'm wearing jeans with a big hole, but it's because it's the only pair of pants that fit at the moment! A great big hole in your jeans on the right side of your ass so that your underwear shows is SO MUCH....I look at that and I go, hmm, suddenly mine doens't look so bad.
I would never go to the theater NOT dressed nicely, but (aside from these jeans) i normally dress pretty well. Jeans, black shoes, black shirt, nice overshirt/cardigan thing. That's what I'm wearing now. And these days, are cargo pants any better than jeans?? I don't think so.
I don't like writing on clothing. At all. My only exceptions are if it's somthing that you buy at a geeky store online, that says "There are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary, and those who don't." I like things like that. But Nike? Ehh. I have to admit, I have a Red Sox hat...
Here is my list for how to be okay:
Have you dressed appropriately for your age?
have you dressed appropriately for your body type? (if you've got thunder thighs, maybe you shouldn't wear a miniskirt... if you've got a kind of spherical middle... don't wear tight shirts. I'm not saying these against any of you, I'm saying them againt the kind of crap the clothing companies make.)
Are you dressed appropriate for the situation? (theater, restaurant, mud wrestling... bowling alleys make you wear socks, so even if you're renting shoes, you're gonna have to buy socks if you don't bring/wear your own)
Are you dresssed approately for the season (mini skirts in winter, huge sweaters when it's 90 degrees)
Does your whole outfit work? (yes, the white heels are great, but you're wearing them with black nyhlons... and you have a jungle print shirt... your skirt is grey with a maroon H on it... ) introducing the FulL Length Mirror!
Are you dressed appropriately to the decade: Do you have all your hair on one side of your head? Are you wearing a poodle skirt ?

Nuff said.

~rachel~

[Fontinau]

[Desperado]

OMG HOSE AND OPEN TOED SHOES!!


sigh. I'm no good at this.

[nat915]

In all fairness, I like Hollister sometimes. They have cute t-shirts. But I wouldn't wear an entire Hollister outfit. Maybe a piece or two mixed with something else. And I always have to buy a big size there to get it to fit me like I like. And I'm the one who prefers fitted clothing. There's a difference in fitted and not there.

[Fogeyman]

Big fashion faux pas:

Tank tops with muk-luks.

[Beagle On Stage]

Mom jeans.

There's also a fine line beyond which an outfit just becomes tacky, because the person is wearing crazy stuff on purpose. I often see people who actually look like "Godspell" characters, and it's just sad. Stacy and Clinton would have a heart attack.

[PatrickDennis]

Holiday Sweaters
(for every Holiday except Christmas).

[purplepolkadot]

Yeah, I agree with Holiday Sweaters... or Grandma sweaters
Jumpsuits
Pudge hanging out of someones jeans
Plumbers butts
Thongs Showing
Mesh anything

I admit, I like Hollister- so sue me!

[Beagle On Stage]

Muffin tops!

Honestly, not everyone has the bod for every style. As people who wear clothes, it our responsiblity to use good judgement and know what we can and cannot wear.

[JemiBoe1981]

My turn!
I don't like jeans with like the bajillion nasty rips and all and like paint splattered on them. AE is one of my favorite stores and they sell those and they are gross. I just hate them. I have only seen ONE real person pull them off beautifully. And they are still ugly. I do like a bit of wear or a "destroyed" jean, but that is a bit much.

I hate any boot with sherpa. I don't care what they look like. They are NASTY and gross and look good with NOTHING.

Denim shirts are evil.

Mom jeans.

Non classy, shapeless leather jackets get on my nerves, too. Like a billion guys at school have them and they are so gross. It's like HAPPY DAYS only even WORSE.

Dated sweaters. Certain sweaters I would soooo wear. But these are like the nasty homespun chunky Bill Cosby type. Or the ones that look Icelandic (yes, AE carries those, too)

Black jeans/cords

Chunky shoes

Those mountain-climber looking boots. Hate them.

That's all for now.

[Fontinau]

I cringe to think how of boring my wardrobe would be if I based it on the advice accumulated over these last four pages.

[JemiBoe1981]

[wicked_diva]

[Fontinau]

[JemiBoe1981]

Well, if you're guilty of the wild pants, you are okay, because those are very stylish (shudder) on people who can pull them off. I hate them, though.

Did I post any of your wardrobe? Sorry if I made you sad!

[The REAL Ciaron]

Font, just tell me you don't wear "mom jeans"!!

[Fontinau]

[JemiBoe1981]

I forgot fur. Not ALL fur. Like those enormous pelt coats that old stuffy rich women wear. I HATE those. Fur is okay in small amounts, like a shrug or a bolero, and if paired with the right outfit on the right person. But otherwise, fur is ick. Period.

EDIT- and good,Fontinau, I don't want to insult people.

[The REAL Ciaron]

[wicked_diva]

[La Boheme]

I agree with Font, in that many things which are 'fashion no-nos' can work on the right person. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in the world who are not the right person for what they wear.

My biggest thing is that clothes fit, and flatter.

I personally break a lot of the 'rules' people have posted.

Especially the one about being in the right decade.

Also the one about big clothing not being flattering. Mens shirts on ladies are hot.

re: shoes paler than your hem...all black outfit with hot nude heels. Nude heels go with pretty much everything.

Things that generally bother me:

Ugg boots. Ugg is the first part of Ugly. Take a hint people.

Pants which aren't the right length.

Trashy chic in general.

White socks.

Flashy designers labels which might as well read 'this is a fake'

Head to toe boho. Any trend worn head to toe really.

[Fontinau]

[The REAL Ciaron]

[The Duchess of Mint]

Dear Musicals.Net Posters,

I truly don't understand the "bucket butt" look that today's low-rise jeans create, so I'd have to say that those stupid jeans would be my personal, #1 "Fashion No-no"!

[RyanJ]

Wearing American Eagle brand clothing (shows unoriginality)

and wearing "destroyed" jeans.

Guys in short shorts is pretty self explanatory. Unless you have an affro and a tank top to go with it, then people think it's funny.

[LaurelDP]

[Whit]

I really hate black pants that are worn out so much that they're not really black anymore; they're like this nasty black/grey color.

In fact, I don't like any clothes that are really so worn out that they're not the color they were when the person bought them. I guess sweatshirts can be an exception because sweatshirts are just casual messy things to wear.

When people get a bleach or ink spot on a t-shirt and they wear it anyways.

Really REALLY big earrings.

Too many piercings.

Really chunky jewelry that's so big that you have trouble finding the person underneath it.

Wearing nylons with runs in them.

Women wearing tight fitting dress pants with regular underwear (not a thong). Ewww...

Women wearing white pants with colored underwear.

I just hate seeing peoples' underwear in general.

[Mel AKA Maureen]

Mini skirt + thong + bending over. 'Nuff said.

[Chevstriss]

[bandcampgirl183]

Why is it any better to wear a thong with tight dress pants than to wear regular underwear? I've seen people do this, but they don't avoid showing their panty line, they just advertise to the world that they're wearing a thong. In HS we had to wear all white to graduation, so many girls would wear white thongs under their white dress pants... it really didn't help. Underwear exists that is kind of like shorts, so it either doesn't show at all, or if it does it's not really a panty line. I'd rather say "Oh... I can see her underwear line" than "Oh, I can see she's wearing a thong."
A lady at a store told me that "nude" underwear shows up less under white clothing than white underwear does. I don't know if this is true.

I would say light blue and red, but then I thought of Dorothy.
~rachel~

[Beagle On Stage]

[The REAL Ciaron]

[Beagle On Stage]

It's like I say, liking girls is not an excuse to go around looking all gnarly.

Besides, she really IS a bad dresser. It would be difficult to argue against that.

[!TheWorld'sMyStage!]

[Pasty]

back from the grave...

[Nudelkopf]

[QuaxoCoricopat]

Besides the general "socks w/sandals" and "brown and black and navy don't mix" I don't really have any fashion peeves.

People have gone off about denim in the theatre... and I think it really depends upon what you're doing before and afterward. I was raised in a place that had the concept of "dress denim" aka dark washed denim that has no stains, rips or holes.

Now, I might get dressier for a show that was a premiere or a close, but otherwise fancy clothes are just uncomfortable for me. I don't want to pay $100 and then be distracted the entire time by my clothes. Now, I wear pretty tailored clothes, my pants fit right and aren't too tight or too baggy, and I might wear a nice tshirt with a subtler logo under my jacket. I didn't get much crap for it when I went to theatre in NYC.

If people pay $100+ for a pair of jeans, I don't think that they can be considered low class any more...

[liz_hearts_acting]

*short shorts.
*pants that almost look like capris, that are actually just too short
*real fur

[MrsJamieWellerstein]

Both, Nudel. Personally, I suffer through 90+ degree heat in jeans. I NEVER wear shorts, partially because they're ugly and partially because I try to cover up as much of my skin as possible (I don't believe ugly folks should go baring their legs).

[Nudelkopf]

[Kragey]

I never wear shorts that go higher than my knees unless I'm at the beach or lounging around my house. And I wear hoodies in 90 degree weather...obviously, not very fashion-savvy.

[RyanJ]

Anything mass produced, I don't want to see 15 other people wearing the same shirt as me in one day. And yet I see plenty of people wearing the same clothes at school on a daily basis. Lame.

[Quique]

Hey, guys, you know what I wear out in public?

Clothes.

Oh, and a :::yawn:::

...and my middle finger.

I really can't care less what people think of my T-shirt, Jeans, Vans, and backwards, faded baseball cap.

I'm perfectly content with who I am and what I look like. Most of all, how comfortable I feel. What other's think of me is right up there with licking my neighbor's toilet bowl clean.

[Nudelkopf]

[ConverseSneaker]

[EponineGiry]

Know what I hate? North Face jackets. They're not particularly sturdy, they aren't very warm, and EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE THEM.

What's gone too far is when 11-year-olds, trying to be like 15-year-olds who have also done this, buy iPod cases that match their North Faces.

[Kragey]

[JeanJacobson]

[Chavaleh]

I'm SO done with the tucking-pants-into-boots thing. It's just not cute unless your legs are as long as Heidi Klum's. And even then, it looks a little silly. It takes on a whole new degree of awfulness when people tuck sweat pants into UGGs. -shudder-

[Nudelkopf]

[Beagle On Stage]

[Nudelkopf]

All my brothers and my two previous boyfriends have tucked their pants into their boots

*Chuckles* Only for work though. One's a diesel fitter and one's a mechanic. I think Zach might be some sorta underground man. But yeh, it is a saftey thing.

[Kragey]

[Nudelkopf]

[Salome]

chubby people who show off their stomachs.

pedal pushers

socks with sandals.