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The Duchess of Mint

Dysfunctional family!

Dear Sweeney Todd Fans,

SPOILER ALERT!

I think that one of the most interesting aspects of the Sweeney Todd movie will be the fact that Sweeney, Lovett, and Toby will be presented as being a barely-held-together, slightly dysfunctional (He's a murderer, she's the accomplice, and the poor kid is in the dark) "family" of sorts.

That arrangement will be interesting, because I have never really considered the extent of Todd's relationship to Toby.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
Cool
theatre_grl

see my siggy Smile
YouGotsToLovett

Now where in hell have I seen that siggy now? It looks familiar...probably a different site...

haha, 'the fun in dysfunctional'

I suppose they would be like a 'broken, dysfunctional' family

BLIMEY! That just gave me an idea Applause
theatre_grl

YouGotsToLovett wrote:


BLIMEY! That just gave me an idea Applause

Care to share?
( Laughing I didn't know anyone actually said blimey)
YouGotsToLovett

Oh, damn it all. I did have an idea, but I'm not sure what it was. It had something to do with the whole "dysfunctional family" thing. Mad
Salome

Re: Dysfunctional family!

The Duchess of Mint wrote:
Dear Sweeney Todd Fans,

SPOILER ALERT!

I think that one of the most interesting aspects of the Sweeney Todd movie will be the fact that Sweeney, Lovett, and Toby will be presented as being a barely-held-together, slightly dysfunctional (He's a murderer, she's the accomplice, and the poor kid is in the dark) "family" of sorts.


Cool


Lovett isnt the accomplice she is the instigator of the whole plot. Sweeney doesnt realized she is manipulating him.
YouGotsToLovett

She's both an instigator and accomplice.
mozurkz

I think we're talking about the movie since the family element isn't really present in the play, and in the movie, it's pretty clear Mrs. Lovett didn't really plot it all out.
theatre_grl

mozurkz wrote:
I think we're talking about the movie since the family element isn't really present in the play, and in the movie, it's pretty clear Mrs. Lovett didn't really plot it all out.

It really depends on the actress I think; there's the possibility of bringing this element out in the show but the character isn't always taken that way.
GinnyWeasley201

I like that plot line... it makes it me wonder though...
if todd hadn't thrown mrs. lovett into the oven.. and they'd gotten married and all...entirely different ending eh? wait that would be the disney version of sweeney todd....ewwwwwwwwww the disney version...(gags)..
zombiefl12

Doesn't it seem like there would have been a bit of suspicion if a high-ranking judge and his bodyguard just vanished without a trace? I don't think Sweeney and Lovett would have made it much longer without a major shift in operating style even if they'd stayed alive through that night.
theatre_grl

GinnyWeasley201 wrote:
I like that plot line... it makes it me wonder though...
if todd hadn't thrown mrs. lovett into the oven.. and they'd gotten married and all...entirely different ending eh? wait that would be the disney version of sweeney todd....ewwwwwwwwww the disney version...(gags)..

O my gosh--interesting idea!

The Disney version of Sweeney Todd:
-All the music is changed to be melodious and cheerful. No factory whistle.
-After Judge Turpin sends Barker off, he tries to get Lucy to marry him; anything else is barely implied.
-Lucy runs away. (and doesn't appear again at all)
-When Pirelli confronts Sweeney, Sweeney knocks him unconsious and they send him away on a random cargo ship (for which he is very remorseful)
-Judge's Johanna is cut
-Lovett rescues Toby and adopts him out of the kindness of her heart
-Sweeney simply cuts people enough that they have to wear ugly, uncomfortable bandages
-Sweeney whistles all the time because he's in a merry mood!
-Lovett's business gets better because she reads lots of cook books, but she steals the meat (which is very naughty, children)
-Anthony locks Fogg up when he rescues Johanna (more like in the movie, but without the idea that he'll be ripped apart by the blondes)
-The Judge is sent to jail because it's found out that he makes false charges (and justice is always carried out, children)
-Sweeney forgives Turpin, knowing that justice is served, Lovett repents and anonymously pays back the butcher she's been stealing from and they get married and live with Toby in a sweet little cottage by the sea.
-They all live happily ever after (and are at peace with the world)
-Johanna is the next disney princess (she has even less character than the movie's Johanna, and none of the gloom)
-The tagline is "Learn forgiveness and try to forget"

Laughing so aweful and so funny.
(If anyone associated with Disney is reading this, don't get any ideas)
ConverseSneaker

Shocked Bad theatre_grl! Stop giving disney ideas to destroy Sweeney!


Wink
theatre_grl

^I've thought of another: Efron is Anthony *shudder*
I'm so bad Wink
Brock07

The thought alone makes me want to blow my brains out.




Figurativley, of course.
ConverseSneaker

theatre_grl wrote:
^I've thought of another: Efron is Anthony *shudder*
I'm so bad Wink



We could have an added scene where Sweeney offers to give Anthony a shave and his hand slips while shaving . Twisted Evil
theatre_grl

^tempting, cept our Antony is not manly enough to need a shave, so it'd lose credibility
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