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.Tracy0110.

Do you think mimi should've died??

Heaps of people think she should've died because it would've put more meaning to the "no day but today" theme-kinda-thing in the movie but i've never really thought about it...i thought it was a good way to end it--with her alive i mean
Erica

I'm just glad that in the movie, she doesn't moo.
Luc

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Quique

I wish Idina Menzel's Maureen would've died after that really gross udder sucking thing during "Over the Moon."
.Tracy0110.

lol you people really don't like maureen's protest! ...i guess i didn't either though...
DramaRobin2002

Heh heh, the movie Over The Moon amused me. Well...more accurately the televisions with Idina making faces on them amused me.
Brock07

I have to agree with Larson's decision for her to live...for the time being (she probably would have died soon though). He said that he wanted the show to end with life, not death and I really respect that. I love the ending to the film and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Da_Dark_Dude

Re: Do you think mimi should've died??

.Tracy0110. wrote:
Heaps of people think she should've died because it would've put more meaning to the "no day but today" theme-kinda-thing in the movie but i've never really thought about it...i thought it was a good way to end it--with her alive i mean


i thought that her coming back to life was a bit stupid, personally. sorta ruined the movie for me... in my opinion

Steve
pish123c

If Mimi had died it would have been very depressing at the end!
I mean granted it is a dark show, but Rent is better with a feeling of hope and triumph and optimism at the end as opposed to "our favorite character died but now we are living each day as our last. instead of greiving lets just sing about living each day as our last"
Nedame

I think she should have lived but I think the way she 'came back to life' in the movie was really cheesy it kinda ruined the ending for me becaue I couldn't take it seriously.
DramaRobin2002

Nedame wrote:
I think she should have lived but I think the way she 'came back to life' in the movie was really cheesy it kinda ruined the ending for me becaue I couldn't take it seriously.


I thought it was handled a lot better in the movie than in the stage show. The mooing is a little much for me when in the hands of certain Mimis. I like the show ending with life rather than death though.
Nedame

DramaRobin2002 wrote:
Nedame wrote:
I think she should have lived but I think the way she 'came back to life' in the movie was really cheesy it kinda ruined the ending for me becaue I couldn't take it seriously.


I thought it was handled a lot better in the movie than in the stage show. The mooing is a little much for me when in the hands of certain Mimis. I like the show ending with life rather than death though.


I've never seen it live, how did they do that part live?
Salome

.Tracy0110. wrote:
lol you people really don't like maureen's protest! ...i guess i didn't either though...


Over the Moon is the best scene in the show.
DramaRobin2002

Nedame wrote:
DramaRobin2002 wrote:
Nedame wrote:
I think she should have lived but I think the way she 'came back to life' in the movie was really cheesy it kinda ruined the ending for me becaue I couldn't take it seriously.


I thought it was handled a lot better in the movie than in the stage show. The mooing is a little much for me when in the hands of certain Mimis. I like the show ending with life rather than death though.


I've never seen it live, how did they do that part live?


Relatively the same except that she moos ("I jumped over the moon...a leap of moooooooooooooo.") and depending on the acting of the Mimi, she can be anywhere from half dead to bright eyed and bushy tailer.
Nedame

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Relatively the same except that she moos ("I jumped over the moon...a leap of moooooooooooooo.") and depending on the acting of the Mimi, she can be anywhere from half dead to bright eyed and bushy tailer.


Oh I see where that could be bad. : )
kozafluitmusique

I don't think Mimi should've died because I believe she deserved forgiveness for her actions.

I nearly cried when Angel died.
what_the_heck013

Mimi's not-death is a sort of conceit. Without it, Larson would not have been able to segue into a big finale. Nobody dances around and sings joyously when someone dies.
kozafluitmusique

what_the_heck013 wrote:
Mimi's not-death is a sort of conceit. Without it, Larson would not have been able to segue into a big finale. Nobody dances around and sings joyously when someone dies.


Yup! I also agree with you on that - you don't rejoice when someone dies at the end.
DramaRobin2002

kozafluitmusique wrote:
what_the_heck013 wrote:
Mimi's not-death is a sort of conceit. Without it, Larson would not have been able to segue into a big finale. Nobody dances around and sings joyously when someone dies.


Yup! I also agree with you on that - you don't rejoice when someone dies at the end.


I believe that when Mimi was killed off in the Netherlands (?) production, they did go right into the finale still.
what_the_heck013

Wait a second, I thought Mimi comes back to life in the movie AND on stage... I remember it like that when I saw Rent last summer.
DramaRobin2002

what_the_heck013 wrote:
Wait a second, I thought Mimi comes back to life in the movie AND on stage... I remember it like that when I saw Rent last summer.


She does. Certain productions have been able to change the ending.
adampascalluver

personally, I think it was good that she lived. Because ultimately, Jonathan Larson wanted the story to end with life, and I think that her death, and then "rebirth" I guess you could call it, signifies the whole point of the movie, the love and have no regrets.


=]
AngelSchunard

I think Mimi should have died instead of Angel. I'm making a short re-write of RENT, just to do with my friends and stuff, and I'm making Mimi die. so yeah Embarassed Crying or Very sad Laughing Rolling Eyes Wink Applause Mr. Green
Asha

Salome wrote:
.Tracy0110. wrote:
lol you people really don't like maureen's protest! ...i guess i didn't either though...


Over the Moon is the best scene in the show.


Thank you. It's wonderful. I don't understand why people hate it.
Not Dead Yet

Asha wrote:
Salome wrote:
.Tracy0110. wrote:
lol you people really don't like maureen's protest! ...i guess i didn't either though...


Over the Moon is the best scene in the show.


Thank you. It's wonderful. I don't understand why people hate it.


It's not really hate. I guess Maureen's character is one of the most annoying.


And to answer the original, question.
Hell, yes.
She should have died.
She IS dead in my imagination's version of Rent.
ChorusKidx3

Well the thing is wasn't she going to die anyways? I mean she comes back does that mean like *BAM* AIDS is gone? No, I don't think so...
ohLOOKitsLEAH

I think that either way it would be good, but it may have been a more effective ending if she had died, definitely.
sephyr

I was very relieved when she came back to life. IMO, It kind of gave Collins a sense of hope when he heard Mimi told him she saw Angel..
mezzo_soprano

Salome wrote:
.Tracy0110. wrote:
lol you people really don't like maureen's protest! ...i guess i didn't either though...


Over the Moon is the best scene in the show.

Why do you think that Salome?
Don't get me wrong I LOVE over the Moon but I don't know if I'd call it the best.
alcockell

As I commented on the other thread.. I'm not sure about Mimi flatlining then coming back round to GCS 15 within seconds. Wouldn't happen.

OK - the characters are in shock, but if you;'re going out like that - you need resus.

Instead - you have *58 seconds* of potential damage going on with Mimi possibly flatlined. You only have 2 minutes and 2 seconds to get blood back to the brain.

She's going to need to be on a monitor bloody fast...
Ulkis

I think there should have been an epilogue or something that makes it clear she does dies soon after. I really think that a lot of people think she's magically cured of AIDS at the end.
nabla

Her living means the show can end on a more positive, life affirming note I guess. Still I think she should die because it would make the thole message of the show more poignant in my opinion
Vanessa20

Randomness

This is kind of random, but just because I love opera and like any excuse to pimp it, here are some clips from different productions of the original Mimi's death from "Boheme." For anyone who hasn't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE8SqCAOhOg&feature=related (Metropolitan Opera, 1982 – Teresa Stratas, Jose Carreras, Renata Scotto)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wamT6hg7z4A&feature=related (Orange – Angela Gheorghiu and Roberto Alagna)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShwLI_OTsCI (Sydney Opera – Baz Luhrmann production)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTyUThD28TA (San Francisco Opera – Mirella Freni, Luciano Pavarotti, Gino Quilico, Nicolai Ghiaurov)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMqvS1brFFE&feature=related (Robert Dornhelm’s film version – Anna Netrebko and Rolando Villazon)
ActingDude17

Ulkis wrote:
I think there should have been an epilogue or something that makes it clear she does dies soon after.


That could work. The whole point is that Roger gets his conscience clear because she lives again. That would still be true even if she was only back for a short time.
Quique

I think it's just the whole near death experience thing that makes the ending a joke. You have to believe in such things in order to take it seriously and even then, the whole thing is too sudden.

It would've been a bit more satisfying to the audience if they actually showed Mimi walking toward a bright light, seeing someone who looks like Angel there and turning back. It can be done in a slightly comedic manner or done seriously but I have a feeling the latter would probably not work.

As for the "last song" issue...I used to also think that this "final song" of Roger's sucked and didn't live up to the buildup it receives. But doesn't Roger say in the song...

"you (Mimi) were the song all along..."

So SHE was the 'song' he was looking for that would hopefully "redeem this empty life." In other words, he had been looking in all the wrong places when the thing he needed was right under his nose, and that thing is love.
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