[MsJellicle]

What's your view on the red queen? Is she sisters or best friends with Demeter? Does or did she know Macavity? Do you suppose there is a particular reason she seems to show more animosity towards Grizabella than most of the others? Will she and Tugger ever get together or will she never settle down?

Opinions, please.

~MsJ

[Soloque]

My views on Bombalurina---- Here's what I think. First off I think Bomba is Demeters mother. Bombalurina and Macavity were 'romantically' involved. Bomb, then got preggers Macavity killed all kittens except Demeter. Seeking safety I think the Jellicles took her and Demeter in although Macavity is still on the hunt to kill Demeter and possibly Bombalurina as well.

As far as Tugger and Bomba are concerned, I think its more of a 'Hey, Im hot and so are you' type flirtation with absolutly no hope of it getting off the ground into a real relationship. They are both way to self involved and Tugger doesnt need a queen with baggage (IE Demeter)

I think Griz could possibly be her mother. Probably had Bomba in her first litter or so, and being the beautiful young queen she was, found having kittens cramped her style and more than less likely left them to find their own way. (I'd be mad at my mom too)

I dont think Bombalurina needs to settle down. To me she seems very strong and independent and doesnt really need a man around. She is very well rounded and knows who she is and what she wants. She has raised a kitten and I dont think is in any rush to have anymore. To me she is like a young mother, perhaps a (human girl) 16yr old having a baby and growing up with the child thus becoming more mature than most queens her age.

As a final note I think both Demeter and Bombalurina are indoor/outdoor cats, judging by collars. I think Bomba still goes back to her 'owners' to get food or just to pay her respects once in awhile.

and thats that
~Soloque

[Rumblepurr]

Bombalurina has got to be "one" of my favorite Queens. She is definitely flirtatious, sensuous, strong-willed and brassy. Her statement is "If you got it, flaunt it... and I got it..." She is confident of herself and quite capable of taking care of herself - as well as anyone who earns her loyalty.

Both Bombalurina and Demeter had a run-in with Macavity. Because of her upbringing, which was demanding and uncompromising, Bombalurina weathered Maccie's "depravity." I do not see the two being related, but Demeter definitely captured something in Bombalurina's soul. Perhaps, Bombalurina saw something in Demeter that reminded her of a life she had torn away from her. At one point, Bombalurina escaped Macavity's grips, and took Demeter with her.

Bombalurina looks over the Toms, but does not allow anyone to get near her unless SHE allows it, and believes they have earned the privilege. Tugger is her mirror-image, so there is little there for a lasting relationship. If she ever does share Life with a Tom, it will be on her terms. Munkustrap is a potential candidate in this category. I still view Bombalurina as possibly being Bisexual... but favoring the Toms...

Her animosity toward Grizabella is deep-seated... If Bombalurina had not left Macavity's "employ", she might have ended up the same way...

Respectfully submitted
Rumblepurr
The Writer Cat.

[Nemi]

Ah Bombalurina...

I see her as the sister of Macavity, the best friend and protector of Demeter.


The way I see it, Demeter was brought to the 'evil' tribe when se was very, very young, and Bombalurina was a couple years older, and Macavity a few years older than her. They two grew up like sisters, but once Macavity began...well, being Macavity (another topic entirely), Bombalurina was the one to help Demeter escape to the pace she vaguely remembered living as a small kitten.

As for relationships... I love Bombalurina with Munkustrap, and her flirting with Tugger isn't so much real attraction, but more of a teasing thing for both him and Munkustrap (Tugger's older brother). And, of course, it's in her nature... and the probable fact that she and Tugger live with the same humans (along with Demeter and Jemima, as interpreted by the collars). But why Bomba/Munk? Well, I remember vaguely reading somewhere that Sillabub was officially their daughter in the original Broadway show, and it just kinda stuck with me. The personalities compliment and contrast eachother well, I'd say.

Her hatred of Grizabella derives, to me, from the fact that Grizabella was the one who dumped Demeter off in the 'evil' tribe in the first place, and therefore, has no sympathy for her.


But Soloque... your theory rocks.

And on the bisexuality issue that Rumbles brought up... oh yea, that's definately there, all righ... I've got no question about that.

[MrsJemimaMistoffelees]

I think that Bombalurina, and Demeter are sisters, and I think that Grizabella is their half sister. They share the same father, not mother.

Grizabella resents them for that; because once her mother died, her father he all too quickly went for Bombalurina and Demeter’s mother, and they were born.

One of the reason's I believe Grizabella left the tribe was because after their father and Bombalurina and Demeter's mother died, Grizabella did not want to be responsible for her younger sisters, and didn't want to be near them. And the reason why Bombalurina and Demeter resent Grizabella is because their older sister left them at such a young age…and soon ending up in Macavity’s grips. Bombalurina had a “thing” for Macavity, but he never showed interest in her. But once he rapped Demeter, they got away from him, and were taken in by the tribe.

I believe that Bombalurina is the aunt of Jemima, who is Demeter’s daughter; she is the result of Macavity’s rape.

Anyway, I’ll quote what I agree with Soloque and Rumblepurr on:

[enkeli-kitten]

I think Bomba and Demi are sisters, and Grizabella's their mother. They're angry cos she walked out on them.

[griddlebone_girl]

I reckon that Bombalurina is older than we think, the human equivilant of mid to late 30s but still wants to capture her youth, hence the reason she always flirts with Tugger, who i see as early 20s.
Her and Demeter are best friend who have been through more than we or anyone else in the tribe knows together.
This is off the top of my head but maybe she shows more resentment towards Grizabella because she can see herself becoming similar in the future. She clearly comes from a good home and is a particularly beautiful cat, possibly the winner of a few cat shows, hence the ego. But in jellicle terms she's left it a bit late to settle down and as a result can't see herself having kittens. Maybe a reason for this comes from being hurt in the past and fearing a commitment. So she can visulise her self becoming the 'old beautiful loner' and trys to deny this by resenting Grizabella.

[QuaxoCoricopat]

While its kinda ooky... looking at the costume designs, I could see Tugger and Bomba being sibs. They've both got leopard spots and the similar big hair, and patterning (socks and chests of different colors). It kinda puts into question that whole flirtation thing... but hey, they're cats, or they're messing around... Or perhaps Bomba was (going off nothing but my own imagination here...) supposed to be featured dancer in Tugger's song, but he didn't want to share the spotlight aannnddd THAT'S why he dropped her...

Bomb's relationship to Demeter seems to be that of friend/older sister, as Demeter is either with Bomb or with Munkustrap (in the video at least...). She's much more in control of herself emotionally than Demeter, despite whatever run in she's had with Macavity.

As for potential 'partner', I agree that it probably can't be Tugger, even if they weren't sibs. They'd drive each other insane because they're so similar. For some reason I like to see her with Alonzo or Mungojerrie (they're "bad" boys but not "bad" boys). And occasionally I'll cop to the Bombalurina/Mistoffelees pairing... because they both seem to enjoy being the center of attention, but Mistoffelees would probably be the more sedate of the two. Unlikely as heck, but there you go...

[Spanish_Rumple]

wow.... You all see a lot of things in there... Great imagination!! hahahaha!!!

For me, Griza is much older than her. probably she could have been Bomba's age when she flew away from the tribe "to see the world".

Bombalurina is gorgeously goodloking and she knows that. But she's not pretentious because she doesn't need to show it off. She's got a very strong personality, she's very selfconfident and seems not to be affraid of anything.

The moment when she chased Tugger in Tugger's song, when he afterwards said "hm...no!" and pushed her down, I think it was just a moment of letting herself go for the first hot guy... but she's ovbiously over all that, she doesn't really need Tugger attention because he's too simple for her. In Macavity's song however i can see in the tone that she's looking for something strong... She might be looking forward to a dangerous relationship with Macavity, dangerous and risky but... very appealing... She likes really the bad guys. That's how I see it. Tugger is not such a bad guy... he pretends to... but hm no.

And she and Demeter I think they're just bestfriends, she might be slightly older than Demeter and that's why she feels protective of her. Both of them might have been "too" close to Mac.

[Fantine]

Is this all speculation?

[MsJellicle]

This is all mostly as the fans see the characters. Everyone has a different point of view which is interesting to read about.

~MsJ

[Spanish_Rumple]

more or less, a lot of people here speculate about the story behind each character. You base yourself upon the character's behaviour, relationships with others and colour of the fur (for some members here colour seems important in order to stablish family relationships...).

I try to stick to the character's behaviour and relationships with the rest. I don't like speculating too much about a past that is not told in the songs... Although some things do make me think about some probable relationships...

[Belle]

Observation and speculation.

I reckon that Tugger, Bomba, Demeter and Jemima live together... Jemima is most likely Bomba's kitten. Bomba and Demeter are sisters, not related to Tugger but they share a human household so are very close.
Bombalurina's quite mature - but then felines age at a completely different rate to humans, they stay 20-30 in human years until they reach about 60, then they're suddenly middle-aged for a couple of years, then elderly. So Bomba's possibly old enough to be a great-grandmother, but she's still in her prime.
Pet cats also, apparently, never fully mature emotionally. (which seems right, I've got a 17-year old kitty begging for a cuddle right here). As they are always dependant on humans, they never develop to live independantly and stay as feline teenagers all their lives. This makes for an interesting reflection on the Jellicles - those with collars, the pet Cats, are they emotionally teens as well? and the feral Cats more emotionally mature and independant? Or are some of the collared Cats reformed strays who have found comfortable homes after living wild for several years?
I see Bombalurina as pretty much a dependant pet Cat - she thrives on attention, loves showing off, loves the thought of danger... but she's also quite protective and maternal, there's far more to her than just the sexy red queen.

[Fantine]

[littlgriz]

[MzGalinda]