Monsieur D'Arque
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Changes in the new revival...Let's list all the changes and alterations in the new revival:
Baby June is portrayed as self-absorbed and bitchy, not nice and loving to her sister.
The "beam of light" in Rose's Turn
New lyrics in "Together Wherever We Go?"
Alternate staging of the ending- no true reconciliation.
Herbie is played as a somewhat tougher, darker character.
Was Tulsa always that... um... disturbing, as he is on the cast recording? "WHYYYYY NOT, BABY JUUUUUUUUNE?"
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pennypingleton1994
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Re: Changes in the new revival... | Monsieur D'Arque wrote: | | Was Tulsa always that... um... disturbing, as he is on the cast recording? "WHYYYYY NOT, BABY JUUUUUUUUNE?" |
That wasn't Tulsa, that was one of the other boys. And when I saw it, he didn't seem disturbing, in fact he was very good.....
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Monsieur D'Arque
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Okay. The script for the original says it's Tulsa, and on the CD it sounds like him.
The Little Lamb is a puppet.
Herbie is given more of a vocal presence in songs where he was usually just a silent participant, i.e. "Together Wherever We Go," "Mr. Goldstone," etc.
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pennypingleton1994
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This one might seem unimportant, but Baby June's "yessir" in Baby June and her Newsboys.
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what_the_heck013
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Re: Changes in the new revival... | Monsieur D'Arque wrote: | Let's list all the changes and alterations in the new revival:
Baby June is portrayed as self-absorbed and bitchy, not nice and loving to her sister.
The "beam of light" in Rose's Turn
Alternate staging of the ending- no true reconciliation.
Herbie is played as a somewhat tougher, darker character.
Was Tulsa always that... um... disturbing, as he is on the cast recording? "WHYYYYY NOT, BABY JUUUUUUUUNE?" |
Well, all of these things are just different interpretations of the director. Plus, I don't think he would change the script. After all, he wrote it.
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Salome
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there are no new lyrics in Together Wherever We Go. you can hear those lyrics on the Original London Cast with Angela Lansbury. (which if you dont own you need to ..its the best recording of teh show).
June was portrayed as a bitch in the Peter's revival. and Kate Reinders did it exceptionally well.
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Monsieur D'Arque
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I know they're director interpretations, but interpretations can change a show a lot. Especially since the show's been considered "perfect, so let's not change a thing" for decades.
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Salome
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| Monsieur D'Arque wrote: | Okay. The script for the original says it's Tulsa, and on the CD it sounds like him.
The Little Lamb is a puppet.
Herbie is given more of a vocal presence in songs where he was usually just a silent participant, i.e. "Together Wherever We Go," "Mr. Goldstone," etc. |
uhm the only cast recording in which that happens is the OBC Herbie always sings alot in Together and he has 3 lines in goldstone.
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Monsieur D'Arque
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Perhaps, but the OBC and common license script give him much less to do than his Broadway counterparts over time have.
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Salome
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well theOBC was done that way because Jack Klugman was not a singer and he didnt like his own voice. however Klugman is still the Herbie all others are judged by.
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Monsieur D'Arque
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Yeah. He was the best-acted Herbie, singer or not.
Still, I'd love to see a great actor AND singer tackle the role- one who could match Klugman's depth, but handle the musical material as well. That's why I keep recommending Christopher Walken as a Herbie- his recent descents into camp have distracted people from the fact that he's one of the greats of this generation, and one of the last true triple threats as well.
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LittleGavroche
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Re: Changes in the new revival... | pennypingleton1994 wrote: | | Monsieur D'Arque wrote: | | Was Tulsa always that... um... disturbing, as he is on the cast recording? "WHYYYYY NOT, BABY JUUUUUUUUNE?" |
That wasn't Tulsa, that was one of the other boys. And when I saw it, he didn't seem disturbing, in fact he was very good..... |
It wasn't Tulsa when I saw it either.
It was another one of the boys. It wasn't disturbing but actually quite funny. To me, it implied the silliness that these boys would have resorted to after so many months doing this stupid act.
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Monsieur D'Arque
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It probably plays a lot differently on the CD than onstage. I couldn't tell- it's Tulsa in the script who gets that line, and we already know from his "All I Need" that he's prone to hyperventilating.
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Sweeney Hyde
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Re: Changes in the new revival... | LittleGavroche wrote: | | pennypingleton1994 wrote: | | Monsieur D'Arque wrote: | | Was Tulsa always that... um... disturbing, as he is on the cast recording? "WHYYYYY NOT, BABY JUUUUUUUUNE?" |
That wasn't Tulsa, that was one of the other boys. And when I saw it, he didn't seem disturbing, in fact he was very good..... |
It wasn't Tulsa when I saw it either.
It was another one of the boys. It wasn't disturbing but actually quite funny. To me, it implied the silliness that these boys would have resorted to after so many months doing this stupid act. |
I got from it that the boys were just as melodramatic in the act as June. It was quite hilarious.
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Jman383
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| Salome wrote: | | June was portrayed as a bitch in the Peter's revival. and Kate Reinders did it exceptionally well. |
You know what? I've come to the conclusion that you just liked the direction of her in that show, because that child is horrid. How can you like her Dawn? Ugh, I know you liked the fact she lit up a cig, but that was the director, not her. She was just horrid as June, and unfortunately, we have a cast recording to remember it by. Needless to say, I refuse to listen to her awful voice on those songs.
On a similar note, one "new" thing is that Leigh Ann Larkin belted almost every single one of her songs, with the except of "Dainty June and her Farm Boys" where she slipped into some head voice for effect. But, her "If Momma Was Married" and "Broadway" were both all belted. Has a June ever done that before?
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Salome
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Jman ...she wasnt horrible she was the perfect June. period. no one has come close. you are such a well known theatre analyst arent you?/ shall I call you Mr. Rich?
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Jman383
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| Salome wrote: | | Jman ...she wasnt horrible she was the perfect June. period. no one has come close. you are such a well known theatre analyst arent you?/ shall I call you Mr. Rich? |
Haha. Very funny, Dawn. No, I just honestly hated her portrayal. I dunno, she just didn't do it for me I guess. To each his own I suppose 
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