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EponineBarker

A Little Priest Question

Okay, I've listened to this song at least a thousand times, (if not more) and I never understood the lyric:

"No, it has to be grocer, it's green"

Can someone please explain to me what this line means?

Thanks.Smile
theatre_grl

a grocer today would be someone who owns a grocery store.
Back then it's more likely that they sold greens (and nothing but greens! Smile ) at a market
Snow_White

Yup. A "green grocer"...they sold more veggies and fruits...then they had the butcher for meats, the baker for baked goods...the grocer for fresh fruits and veggies.
Brock07

For the longest time, I didn't understand several of the lyrics....I guess just because at times Lansbury is kinda hard to understand...

I always thought it was "grosser" and I never could figure out what it meant, but then I figured it out.

Another one was royal "marine". I always thought it was Marine, as in the name (or Maureen) and thought it was a ruler, which made the whole taste of wherever its been line not make sense.

I know, I'm retarded.
Snow_White

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I know, I'm retarded.


*pets lovingly* don't worry dearling...we still love you[/quote]
Vice

I always thought:
A) Grocer for, of course, the groceries and greens.
B) There is a type of meat referred to as green meat due to the fact it is drained completely of blood, giving a greenish hue.

I'm STILL confused as to what a fop is though...
Pannic

Vice wrote:
I'm STILL confused as to what a fop is though...
They're the really rich upper-class people in expensive suits and ridiculous wigs.

Dvarg

Pannic wrote:


Clearly the finest in the shop Mr. Green
EponineBarker

Oh okay, thanks guys for answering my question! I think I get it now...

I listened to the two cast recordings and the movie soundtrack I had, and I had hoped I would listen to one version and suddenly get it by how someone said it.

Like for example, I had no idea who or what Sweeney was referring to when he and Mrs. Lovett were talking...:

LOVETT: Now let's see, here... We've got tinker.
TODD: Something... pinker.
LOVETT: Tailor?
TODD: Paler.
LOVETT: Potter?
TODD: Hotter.
LOVETT: Butler?
TODD: Subtler.
LOVETT: Locksmith?

...until I listened to the Revival and when I heard Sweeney chuckling right after saying "something...subtler..." I was pretty sure he was referring to Judge Turpin. (I could be wrong though... Confused)
theatre_grl

EponineBarker wrote:

...until I listened to the Revival and when I heard Sweeney chuckling right after saying "something...subtler..." I was pretty sure he was referring to Judge Turpin. (I could be wrong though... Confused)

That's sorta what he's getting the whole time is that he wants Judge on the menu.
But (I think) right there he's laughing cause they're playing a little rhyming game--all of ALP is a joke, a super dark twisted joke.
EponineBarker

theatre_grl wrote:
EponineBarker wrote:

...until I listened to the Revival and when I heard Sweeney chuckling right after saying "something...subtler..." I was pretty sure he was referring to Judge Turpin. (I could be wrong though... Confused)

That's sorta what he's getting the whole time is that he wants Judge on the menu.
But (I think) right there he's laughing cause they're playing a little rhyming game--all of ALP is a joke, a super dark twisted joke.


Good point about the Judge on the menu part. I guess I didn't delve too deeply into that until I heard that laugh in the Revival.
Flitterbug

Dvarg wrote:

Clearly the finest in the shop Mr. Green


It wouldn't have been off the rack, but made especially for that person. No two suits were exactly alike. Everything was hand-stitched (with exceptions after the introduction of the sewing machine), which was why only the rich could afford to have more than a couple of outfits.

Clothing was a status symbol, an expression of wealth as much as good taste or modesty.
Mistress

Brock07 wrote:
I always thought it was "grosser"


I always figured that the audience was supposed to intially assume that that it was "grosser"-"If you look closer you'll notice it's grosser" but then realise it's a sound-alike word and supposed to be "grocer"-it has to be grocer: it's green. It makes sense to me because it's like Sweeney thinks the same thing:

Lovett: Look closer, you'll notice it's grosser
Sweeney: Looks thicker, more like vicar
Lovett: No it has to be grocer-it's green

Am I maiking any sense here?
Brock07

Absolutly. I'm just too stupid to figure it out the first 30 times.

And what's vicar?
Mistress

Vicar is someone to do with the church...like the local priest/mayor person...I'd have to read more Agatha Chrisite to get that one clarified.
Reikuro

It's a play on words, it's clear if you watch the movie.
The guy is a grocer, someone who sells food.
Todd says it looks more like the vicar, since it's fatty
And Lovett says "No it has to be grocer it's green" which is the play on words, since the grocer shown is wearing a green apron. Also it could be it has to be grosser [nastier] cause it's green [spoiled]. I suppose grosser could also be a play on the french word "gros" which means fat.. or something like that.
YouGotsToLovett

I always thought the word 'grocer' was 'grosser', sort of. But they were talking about grocer and saying it's green. Which is pretty 'gross'

Any sense? Probably not, I have the hugest headache
Paula74

Brock07 wrote:
Absolutly. I'm just too stupid to figure it out the first 30 times.

And what's vicar?


This might help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicar
Megziid

From Wikipedia:

Greengrocer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greengrocer

Fop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fop
Amy_Vocalist

It's so weird to read you all figuring out words which are second nature to me!

Kinda cool
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