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littlgriz

a hard mothers day

i started greving a gin yester day it hit me in the face mimikey is gon its my ffirsdst mothers day wwith tugger and clud i cold not sstp my tears i knowe its fine to cry i just wanted to share this with you all
Fantine

What the ----?
Bill_Calhoun

Re: a hard mothers day

littlgriz wrote:
i started greving a gin yester day it hit me in the face mimikey is gon its my ffirsdst mothers day wwith tugger and clud i cold not sstp my tears i knowe its fine to cry i just wanted to share this with you all


It is fine to cry littlegriz; thankyou for sharing this with us all, and just know that we are all here for you if you need to talk Smile
Mungostoffelees

Fantine wrote:
What the ----?




littlegriz suffors from William's Syndrome which is a disease which effects your learning and spelling, there is a link here posted by mrs J a while back with more information:

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/williams/williams.htm


That is why her messages may not always be readable to some.


littlegriz: sorry to hear that hun Sad *hugs*



~Stoffey
abbeycat

Littlgriz:

Know that we are all here for you and yes, it's okay to cry. It's hard when you realise you are without something so precious to you but you should also know that Tugger and Cloud love you very much and Mikey is still in your heart and your thoughts and he always will be special to you.

*offers hugs*
littlgriz

:)

Fantine wrote:
What the ----?
hi falenn i sum times misspel things not on purpas http://www.williams-syndrome.org/please go hewr i have williamssyndrome im glad to meet you hers sum more in fo on me
http://www.wsf.org/family/photoalbum/photo_a-j/christina.htm please red all you want thin yul getto knowe me better
littlgriz

Re: a hard mothers day

Bill_Calhoun wrote:
littlgriz wrote:
i started greving a gin yester day it hit me in the face mimikey is gon its my ffirsdst mothers day wwith tugger and clud i cold not sstp my tears i knowe its fine to cry i just wanted to share this with you all


It is fine to cry littlegriz; thankyou for sharing this with us all, and just know that we are all here for you if you need to talk Smile
thanks bil im doing better to day its bina rolercoster fore me plus with fibromialgia it getsworse witgh emoshenul pain to
littlgriz

thanks

Mungostoffelees wrote:
Fantine wrote:
What the ----?
thank you sis Smile i gave her the link and anuther link that tels my storey to Smile



littlegriz suffors from William's Syndrome which is a disease which effects your learning and spelling, there is a link here posted by mrs J a while back with more information:

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/williams/williams.htm


That is why her messages may not always be readable to some.


littlegriz: sorry to hear that hun Sad *hugs*



~Stoffey
littlgriz

thanks sis

abbeycat wrote:
Littlgriz:

Know that we are all here for you and yes, it's okay to cry. It's hard when you realise you are without something so precious to you but you should also know that Tugger and Cloud love you very much and Mikey is still in your heart and your thoughts and he always will be special to you.

*offers hugs*
thank you sis thay are so funey thos two thay love to play and tugger is fore shur a cureus cat lol
Bill_Calhoun

Re: a hard mothers day

littlgriz wrote:
Bill_Calhoun wrote:
littlgriz wrote:
i started greving a gin yester day it hit me in the face mimikey is gon its my ffirsdst mothers day wwith tugger and clud i cold not sstp my tears i knowe its fine to cry i just wanted to share this with you all


It is fine to cry littlegriz; thankyou for sharing this with us all, and just know that we are all here for you if you need to talk Smile
thanks bil im doing better to day its bina rolercoster fore me plus with fibromialgia it getsworse witgh emoshenul pain to


Just make sure you are okay, okay?

Love Bill x
Etcetera Kitten

It's ok to cry, as you said. Plus, your cat is probably safe up there in Heaven, which is a good thing! He was with you from up there, he'll always be there!

Now you can be happy with your Tugger, and give him a lot of love. He'll never replace Mikey completely, but he'll developp his own personnality and become just as special.

I will have good thoughts for both Mikey and Tugger.

Thanks for sharing this with us! We are there to listen!

Much love

EK
littlgriz

Re: a hard mothers day

Bill_Calhoun wrote:
littlgriz wrote:
Bill_Calhoun wrote:
littlgriz wrote:
i started greving a gin yester day it hit me in the face mimikey is gon its my ffirsdst mothers day wwith tugger and clud i cold not sstp my tears i knowe its fine to cry i just wanted to share this with you all
ii got sum good sleep last night tugg played most of the night with a bal Smile so i got alot of sleep last night its a good day im going to see sum friends to day Smile so its going to be a good day going to get my nails and face dun im so glad

It is fine to cry littlegriz; thankyou for sharing this with us all, and just know that we are all here for you if you need to talk Smile
thanks bil im doing better to day its bina rolercoster fore me plus with fibromialgia it getsworse witgh emoshenul pain to


Just make sure you are okay, okay?

Love Bill x
littlgriz

Etcetera Kitten wrote:
It's ok to cry, as you said. Plus, your cat is probably safe up there in Heaven, which is a good thing! He was with you from up there, he'll always be there!

Now you can be happy with your Tugger, and give him a lot of love. He'll never replace Mikey completely, but he'll developp his own personnality and become just as special.

I will have good thoughts for both Mikey and Tugger.

Thanks for sharing this with us! We are there to listen!

Much love

EK
your welcum you are right lol tugg played all might wwith a bal he lovs catnip balls Smile
darkmage

It's always tough to lose a friend, human or feline. But he's still with you, wherever he is.

All the best...
tmg

I'm very sorry about Mikey. Sad

We just had to have Tennessee (our youngest kitty) put down. She was only a year old and had lung cancer.
littlgriz

thank you

darkmage wrote:
It's always tough to lose a friend, human or feline. But he's still with you, wherever he is.

All the best...
thanks good to meet you
darkmage

tmg wrote:
I'm very sorry about Mikey. Sad

We just had to have Tennessee (our youngest kitty) put down. She was only a year old and had lung cancer.


Sorry to hear that...

Wow, that's really young. And lung cancer is really rare in cats. Perhaps she was born with it? I had a cat that was once--she died the day before her second birthday. She was also a giant and was apparently born with bone cancer, but we didn't know it up until the last day or so when she acted sick. Confused
tmg

darkmage wrote:
tmg wrote:
I'm very sorry about Mikey. Sad

We just had to have Tennessee (our youngest kitty) put down. She was only a year old and had lung cancer.


Sorry to hear that...

Wow, that's really young. And lung cancer is really rare in cats. Perhaps she was born with it? I had a cat that was once--she died the day before her second birthday. She was also a giant and was apparently born with bone cancer, but we didn't know it up until the last day or so when she acted sick. Confused


She had feline leukemia which makes cats 60 times more likely to get cancer. The odd thing is, she never showed any signs of the leukemia and was actually beating it (most people say there's absolutely no cure or treatment for it). She tested as a strong positive twice back in January. We started giving her all kinds of natural immune boosters (like colostrum & vitamin C) and had her retested last month and found out she was only a slight positive. So if she'd had a few more months, she probably would have completely kicked it. But I guess the leukemia figured that if it couldn't get her with the weakened immune system, it'd get her with the cancer.

The type of cancer she had wasn't operable and it was fast growing, which I guess was for bthe better becasue she didn't start really acting sick until about 2 weeks before she died and she wasn't absolutely miserable until the day we had her put down (she was so sad because she didn't have the energy to play). So at least it wasn't really long & drawn out.
darkmage

The Feline Lukemia virus (FeLV for short) is brutal. Fortunately, there is a vaccine, but like all vaccines, the success rate is not 100%. As for making the animal more susceptible to cancer, that's no surprise--the FeLV virus destroys the cat's immune system so it can't fight off any type of invader--and this includes cancer cells, unfortunately. The closest human equivalent is the HIV virus. There *is* an FIV virus, but there's no vaccine (yet) and it's not transmissible to humans. It, too, is a brutal wasting disease.

That's sad, but like you said, she didn't suffer much.

That having been said, you need to get your other cats tested for FeLV ASAP. It's usually spread by saliva or blood, meaning it's spread by fights and cats grooming each other. If your cats test positive, keep an eye on them. If the blood tests come up negative, get the vaccine, or if they've already had it, get a booster shot. This is one of those shots that has to be repeated every year. My cats hate it, it's an intramuscular and makes their shoulder sore for a couple of days, but it's for their own good. Confused
tmg

Yeah, we know all about FeLV. We've read pretty much everything out there on it.

What had happened is we had 3 cats (Romeo, Emily, & Tennessee) then adopted a kitten from an animal shelter (Scout). We didn't really know anything about FeLV and since they were all indoor cats, we didn't think to get them vaccinated against it (they got all their other vaccinations, though). 3 months later, Scout got an infection after being spayed and wasn't fighting it off. We got her tested, found out she was positive, so we got the others tested and found out Ten was also positive. Scout ended up having to be put down after she got anemic, started having seizures, and wasn't able to kick the fever. We got the other cats vaccinated for it and started Ten on the immune boosters.

We later adopted Toonces specifically because she had tested positive but was not showing any signs of being sick (we figured our other two cats were safe since they didn't get it after being exposed when they weren't vaccinated and were now fully vaccinated, but we didn't want to introduce another negative cat). Toonces was pregnant when she was picked up by animal control. She tested as a slight positive but because she was pregnant, rather than immediately euthanizing her (standard practice for FeLV/FIV positive cats), she was turned over to a rescue group. She had 3 healthy, negative kittens and she went into foster care. After we adopted her, we had her tested again and she ended up testing negative so either the 1st test was a false positive or she was just exposed but was in the middle of fighting it off (generally, only kittens under a year old aren't able to fight it off and remain positive). And so far, Toonces is doing really well.

Then we were adopted by a stray cat we named Ghost. When we took him in to get tested, he was a very slight positive for FIV, but we had him retested a couple weeks later and it was negative so the 1st was most likely just a false positive.

So now we're going to have everyone tested one more time just to make sure they're all still negative and we're completely rid of all the nasties. Then we'll probably adopt another kitten (Romeo has been really depressed since we lost Ten - they were best buddies). The new kitten will be tested, fully vaccinated, and quarantined for a few weeks before being introduced to the other cats.

Anyway, that's my cat/FeLV/FIV history. Sorry for the hijack.
darkmage

All of my cats are indoors only, but we have a large colony of ferals in the neighbourhood and some come right to the door and touch noses against the glass (the French doors in my room and living room) or through the screen door. They get the full battery of inoculations every year, just in case.

When Miffy died, he died of leukemia/lymphoma (basically Hodgkins') but he had the non-viral, age related type. He was about 16, so he had a good life.


Still, I wish you the very best of luck and the best of health for you and the 'kids.' Wink

Edit: based on what you've told me about your youngest, I'm not sure if she was truly kicking the virus or if it came back a weak positive because the antibody-producing cells had been destroyed. As a human with an autoimmune disease, I know from experience that the titer percentage alone can carry a wealth of information.
tmg

darkmage wrote:

Edit: based on what you've told me about your youngest, I'm not sure if she was truly kicking the virus or if it came back a weak positive because the antibody-producing cells had been destroyed.


Interesting thought. The ELISA test for FeLV tests for antigens, though. That wouldn't be the case with antigens, would it (it's been years since I took immunology)?
darkmage

Honestly, I'm not sure. Ask your vet next time you see them. They'll know.
littlgriz

tmg wrote:
darkmage wrote:
tmg wrote:
I'm very sorry about Mikey. Sad

We just had to have Tennessee (our youngest kitty) put down. She was only a year old and had lung cancer.


Sorry to hear that...

Wow, that's really young. And lung cancer is really rare in cats. Perhaps she was born with it? I had a cat that was once--she died the day before her second birthday. She was also a giant and was apparently born with bone cancer, but we didn't know it up until the last day or so when she acted sick. Confused


She had feline leukemia which makes cats 60 times more likely to get cancer. The odd thing is, she never showed any signs of the leukemia and was actually beating it (most people say there's absolutely no cure or treatment for it). She tested as a strong positive twice back in January. We started giving her all kinds of natural immune boosters (like colostrum & vitamin C) and had her retested last month and found out she was only a slight positive. So if she'd had a few more months, she probably would have completely kicked it. But I guess the leukemia figured that if it couldn't get her with the weakened immune system, it'd get her with the cancer.

The type of cancer she had wasn't operable and it was fast growing, which I guess was for bthe better becasue she didn't start really acting sick until about 2 weeks before she died and she wasn't absolutely miserable until the day we had her put down (she was so sad because she didn't have the energy to play). So at least it wasn't really long & drawn out.
that isso sad tmg im frum chattanooga tn Smile
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