petes_kitty
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"the boyfriend"-kissing?You know the musical "the boyfriend"? Has anyone here performed in it or has seen a production of it? Auditions are coming up soon and I need to know if the script requires any kissing from any of the characters. Thanks so much!
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Salome
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yes it does. why would you need to know that?
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What Is This Feeling?
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lol sorry, this is a funny conversation. I wouldn't do a show if there wasn't any kissing!!!!!! lol
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petes_kitty
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Sorry, I wasn't specific enough - I mean, which characters have to kiss?. It's a for personal reason as to why I am asking this and I don't think it's that funny. thanks
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Salome
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youe an actor. if the script says kiss. you kiss.
polly and tony
maize and bobby
percy and dubbonnet
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ellemenope
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yeah, but actors also choose what to audition for that they feel they can really put everything into. If she doesn't want to be involved in something for personal reasons then let's at least behave decenly and extend her that simple courtesy.
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crluvalotbear
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i did the boyfriend last year and at no point did any of the characters kiss.
i hope that helps!
<3
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Salome
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| crluvalotbear wrote: | i did the boyfriend last year and at no point did any of the characters kiss.
i hope that helps!
<3 |
thats weird there are moments in the script where the characters kiss.
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happyguava
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Pretty much everyone kissed at the end of ours - you know, when it's midnight etc etc
bobby and maisie, alphonse and dulcie, marcel and fay, pierre and nancy, polly and tony, percy and mme dubonnet
But that was just out production - I think the script only ever asks the main 3 couples to kiss. My gosh this is a weird conversation!!
If you don't want to kiss anyone, go for Hortense! Fun part!
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crluvalotbear
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i guess because it was a high school production our director edited it out (our school principal is EVIL about mild cursing...he wanted us to change the pajama game lyrics to "so, although, seven and a half cents doesn't buy a HECKUVA lot"...we defied him lol. there was nothing he could do once we were onstage!)...is the show you're auditioning for a high school show?
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ado amber
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ive never heard of this musical....is it any good?
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crluvalotbear
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Eh, it's alright.
Nothing brilliant-- but super cute with lots of fun ensemble bits.
Fancy Forgetting, A Room in Bloomsbury, and I Could be Happy with You are a bit...ehhh...but Won't You Charleston with Me?, Perfect Young Ladies, Nicer in Nice, Never Too Late, Sur Le Plage, and the Riviera are realllllly fun!
The script is goofy-- but it's suposed to be a spoof, so you have to look at it as not serious.
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Salome
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actaully the best songs aret he ones you said are eh... plus Its Never Too Late.which is a true show stopped. if done right its a great show.
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crluvalotbear
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maybe i'm biased because our tony/mme dubonnet weren't that great...but i still don't like those songs. i think they're a tad boring...
it's never too late is the beeeeeest....
but i still think the show is just...dumb
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happyguava
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I really like it. It took me a while - I first read the script and I can't say I had high hopes. But it is a really good show.
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crluvalotbear
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i think fancy forgetting is quite possibly the worst song ever written for broadway-- def the worst in the show. but again, maybe i'm biased because our mme dubonnet was just god awful.
while this will never one of my favorite shows, it's really not THAT bad, i suppose...if the actors are good enough to portray that it is supposed to be a spoof.
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Salome
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Fancy Forgetting is a brillaint little parody song. the lyrics ooze 1920s british cliche's its delightful.
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The Drama Queen
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Salome, she's entitled to her opinion, which she made it clear it was. You're simply stating your opinons like they are facts, which in someone else's opinion they may not be.
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Matthew
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| The Drama Queen wrote: | | You're simply stating your opinons like they are facts. |
They are.
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The Drama Queen
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Well you may think that, but obviously other people may not agree and they have their own opinions that you don't need to go bashing.
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Salome
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| The Drama Queen wrote: | | Salome, she's entitled to her opinion, which she made it clear it was. You're simply stating your opinons like they are facts, which in someone else's opinion they may not be. |
I can't stand when people judge a song or a show without understanding what they mean. its obvious she doesnt.
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crluvalotbear
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oh, OBVIOUSLY i don't understand what I mean.
just because I don't act like a know-it-all in every forum post doesn't mean I don't understand this show or the song. and I CLEARLY stated that maybe the reason I hated the song was because of how awful our madame dubonnet was.
that aside, I hate the song, as well as others-- and no one can tell me that I don't "understand" something because I have a different opinion.
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Salome
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| crluvalotbear wrote: | oh, OBVIOUSLY i don't understand what I mean.
just because I don't act like a know-it-all in every forum post doesn't mean I don't understand this show or the song. and I CLEARLY stated that maybe the reason I hated the song was because of how awful our madame dubonnet was.
that aside, I hate the song, as well as others-- and no one can tell me that I don't "understand" something because I have a different opinion. |
Keep thinking that honey.
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DaddyDiesel
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LOL Salome are you picking a fight, again.
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arctic_orange
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I did this show this summer, and was Madame Dubonnet--to throw this in there, my favorite song was "Don't Want to Play with me Blues".
As far as kissing scenes, the only characters that kissed in our prodiction were Tony and Polly, and there were several scenes written specifically around them getting "caught", so I think it's pretty necessary.
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crluvalotbear
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Honestly, why does this Salome person have to act like a superior jacka$$?
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Salome
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| crluvalotbear wrote: | | Honestly, why does this Salome person have to act like a superior jacka$$? |
i'm not acting like a jackass. I'm just trying to explain culture and good taste to the 'Wicked" and "cats' generations.
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crluvalotbear
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wicked sucks
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Skip2MyLiu33
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i did "the boy friend" over the summer too...very fun, lighthearted...but it's hard to make it look "spoofy", shall we say...i think that the principal actors in the production i was in seemed to make their lines sound "authentic," which therefore made the show actually look "serious." i mean...people walking out there saying "well, the plot was kind of cliched..." it made most miss the point entirely, but anyway....
as far as kissing goes, i believe that the script only calls for it twice, with maisie and bobby before the charleston number and polly and tony at the end. (not really sure about these; i didn't exactly read the script) i think that any additional kissing will probably depend on your director and choreographer. but all in all, the kissing isn't exactly necessary, but it adds to the show.
wow. this was a really long and rambling post. yuck.
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crluvalotbear
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after doing "grease," i miss the boyfriend  lots
this may be my last show ever :'( maaaaybe
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EyeAmNiceGirl
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| Salome wrote: | youe an actor. if the script says kiss. you kiss.
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OK, I agree to a point. The problem with "modern" theatre is that it is contantly pushing the envelope. We have 8th graders kissing on stage, as if they are "mature" enough to handle it all. OK, sure, kissing won't hurt them. But I can remember that age, and how kissing was a HUGE deal. And in 8th grade, I hadn't even kissed a boy yet.
Now, back to the pushing then envelope thing. The "your an actor, so do what ever ther role calls for" thing is a dangerous path. In high school they have you kissing and a minor curse word or two, principally because that's all they can get away with. When you get to college, and decide to continue the whole theatre thing (I know most don't), you start getting roles in which you are to disrobe, have graphic makeout scenes, and/or do some pretty disgusting activities, all in the name of "its your character, so it's OK."
The problem is that this philosophy is a slippery slope. It starts with a kiss, then a bare breast or penis, then a nude makeout scene with simulated sex, and for a sad few, they end up in outright porn. We've seen supposedly "main stream" actresses do REAL sex acts in movies like Brown Bunny and Intimacy.
I agree that an actor needs to expect boy-girl kissing as a basic part of acting. But do so because you are OK with doing it, and don't use the fact that the playwright or director asks you to. Becuase if you use the the PW or director as your guide, you will end up doing some pretty crazy stuff. When you get to college (or just over 1 , and someone says to take off your top or for the guys to do the full monte, you better have a VERY clear sense of your self, and whether you are willing to go down that path, and if so, where you limiit will be and HOW you are going ensure that limit stays in place. And yes, you can make it w/o going nude -- Julia Roberts did. But I must admit, if you don't plan on opposite-sex kissing, your acting days are limited.
Now, as to the concept that it is JUST the character doing whatever the character is doing, I hope we all realize that it is not at all unusual for a married actor/actress to end up divorcing and then dating/marrying/having a kid with the last hot lead he had sex scenes with. For proof, just pick up the lastest Hollywood gossip rag. You can only separate yourself from your character to a certain degree. We are all human, and a physical act (that normally is associated with romantic/sexual activity) is a physical act that registers at some level, wether it be disgusting if the guy is nasty or nice if he is hot. You can say whatever you will, but anytime I ever kissed a guy on stage, it was my lips kissing him. And my bare breasts (did that once in college) were MY bare breasts, which I was so kindly reminded of by my chemistry lab partner when he mentioned that he liked the play. Apparently he had to go for his English class or something like that.
I can see how someone who's never been kissed might be a bit weirded out by kissing a pre-picked boy, especially if she's not into him. It could also be very embarrassing at that age, with mom and dad watching. I can also see how a married person might be very concerned about physical touching, and might purposefully avoid such things. Even though I understand the whole theatre scene, if I were married and my hubby had to do a makeout scene, I believe it would cause me to be a bit unsettled. Sorry, but no healthy person wants to see his/her significant other makeout with someone else, no matter the "reason."
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PappyCat
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This topic really got revived, didn't it? Heh.
I'll weigh in, I guess.
She wasn't asking to change the part, she was just asking so she could avoid a character that did things she wasn't comfortable with.
I'd avoid a character that I KNEW would have to wear a super sexy costume, because I wouldn't be comfortable with that. However, I wouldn't mind a kissing scene.
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luvthestage
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we did this show in our high school and every where that the script says kiss the actors kissed, but ya know its all preference to the director, and I played hortense so I got to do a lot of flirting but no kissing! it was so fun!
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